Why are people's expectations for Nintendo's output so much higher than for Sony and Microsoft? Like they put out Smash *two* months ago, it's not like they've been doing nothing and this is an extended drought
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Yoshi's CW is the only new 2019 Nintendo developed Switch game until June
- Thread starter unicornKnight
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Third party games skew in favor of Sony/Microsoft/PC. If you don't include big titles like KH3, RE2R, Sekiro, Metro Exodus, Anthem, DMCV, Division 2, etc., then you could also say PS4/Xbox have a pretty empty start in the year as well.
I don't agree to be honest. We're already seeing plenty of third party exclusives for Switch, and in the future, games will be designed with Switch performance in mind because it's selling so well. Even the second half of this year has pleeenty.
The onus is on Nintendo to provide a stready-stream of software for the Switch, given they can't rely on third parties in the way Sony and Microsoft can. Their strategy in 2017 to release one game per-month, even if it was something relatively low-profile like Pokken Tournament DX, was perfect. I'm personally a little disappointed that Feb and May have nothing substantial planned for release, although I'm not ruling out another Direct next month in which a smaller title is revealed for that May slot. Presumably this is when Fire Emblem was supposed to release.
Not to mention, games like Zelda BotW and Mario Odyssey are just a different breed of AAA. I would say the previous poster may be right if they mean Western AAA releases, because I doubt that's going to change drastically - Switch won't get Cyberpunk, or Anthem, etc. it will however get more and more big Square Enix titles among others.
I'm sure I'll get laughed at but I wouldn't be terribly surprised if Square has decided to fit Switch into their plans for FFVII R at this point. KH3 could have happened if it was part of the discussion from the beginning, but FFVII R had been moving slow enough that maybe they've worked out a way to be included.
It would make a lot of sense for them to market a Switch port of Detective Pikachu to release alongside the movie but no doubt they would have announced that during this Direct if it were coming.
first half of this year is poor on switch as was the entirety of 2018 for my tastes. second half of this year looks great tho, especially Astral Chain. these droughts are why i own more than just a switch i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
They finally gave it a release date, though. It's pretty rare for Nintendo to delay a game after that. I don't think they would have told us July 26 if they weren't confident they were going to hit it. It's a little different from, say, Yoshi being a vague "2018" release until it wasn't.
That said, I do think it's a little intriguing that Nintendo gave us specific dates for two July titles and yet left Mario Maker 2, which is releasing earlier, with only a non-specific "June" release window.
Don't like Smash and already played NSMB on the Wii U so.... Yes?
I have plenty to play anyway.
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Agree, my topic was very specific about the first five months. After June I won't be able to keep with all these releases.
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I played NSMBU on Wii U, Smash keeps me occupied for now I just expected to have something more to look forward for the next 3 months.
We are seeing some but I wouldn't say plenty. Maybe I'm just a pessimist but I think the Switch will continue to not get most third party games day and date with other platforms, especially when the next gen consoles come out. The number of exclusives from Japan should increase but there won't be that many AAA releases.
What's the concern here?
Sony: last game was Spider-Man (September last year) next game is days gone (April this year)
Xbox: last game was forza 4 (October last year) next game is crackdown 3 (today!)
Nintendo: last game was smash (September last year) next game is Yoshi (March)
It's all pretty even.
Sony: last game was Spider-Man (September last year) next game is days gone (April this year)
Xbox: last game was forza 4 (October last year) next game is crackdown 3 (today!)
Nintendo: last game was smash (September last year) next game is Yoshi (March)
It's all pretty even.
Actualy Smash was in December (not counting NSMBU DX from January), so we are getting new Nintendo game around 3 months after Smash Bros.
Shit you're right, why did I think September? So yes - very frequent releases. Pokemon before that of course
There's a shitload of stuff in the 2nd half of the year, if your only gaming device is a Switch then frustrating but for most people here a complete non issue. I.e. perfect to start a thread about.
1st party exclusives aren't as important for Sony and XBox since they have highly touted 3rd party games. We (hopefully) aren't counting up first party exclusives just for arbitrary fun.
-Oct 2018: Super Mario Party
-Nov 2018: Pokemon Lets Go
-Dec 2018: Smash Bros Ultimate
-Jan 2019: NSMBU DX
-March 2019: Yoshi's Crafted World
-April 2019: Box Boy! + Box Girl!
-June 2019: Mario Maker 2
-July 2019: Fire Emblem: Three Houses
As someone who doesn't care for Smash it's definitely been a rough patch. The last major (non-indie) release I picked up was Xenoblade 2, which I just thought was good, not great. Thankfully the promise of a hybrid system seems to be bearing fruit in the second half of the year.
Why are people acting all pissy that people are asking for a better balanced year? I'm pumped for the last half of the year but the games could have been spread out better. Bigger games in the first half of the year would be a welcome sight
2019 will be great. Once summer hits it's gonna be pretty much nonstop til the end of the year from Nintendo. What's Sony and Microsoft got right now? Oh yeah about the same as Nintendo except we at least know what's coming from Nintendo the rest of the year
They almost did it last year. I think at least 10 months were covered.
uh, it is. The first five months being slow doesn't change that. From June to the end of the year, the Switch is fire. It would be nice if releases were more evenly spread out, but 2019 will be an amazing year regardless.
HAL Laboratory (makers of Kirby for more than 25 years) is an indie developer now? It may be a low budget title, but that doesn't make it indie.
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Point of the thread was never to compare with other platforms but I think it's worth noting that Switch is barely two years on the market while Xbox and PS4 are 5+ years.
As others said, Switch first year spoiled us with many releases almost every month. I made the topic to discuss the matter, not to convince anyone, I actually find it nice that many people think that I'm overreacting and the situation isn't that bad after all.
ERA or any game enthuaist sites is as bubble as possible especially regarding Nintendo offering.
1-2 Switch
Super Mario Party
NSMBUDX
Mario Kart 8 DX
Kirby Star Allies
Pokemon Lets Go
Is called by Era that they will flop due to crazy amount of reason.
And what happen is all of those games goes to sell multiple millions showing how small actually bubble like ERA and how often it dont matter in the grand scheme of things.
I think if MPT had come in the spring that honestly would've helped so much. And those are ports. Stellar games though. They certainly would've been enough for me to chew on.
This is pretty much 100% me, I have the Switch along with my PS4 and PC. I still have a few single player PS4 games I want to beat, and have Switch games I want to buy. If someone is running the Switch as their primary console with Nintendo 1st party being the frontline of their catalog. Then this will be a rough year early on. I think overall the available 1st party titles are still pretty strong.
I got the Switch since launch and still didn't catch up. Need to check out ToV, FF9, and whatever else I missed, and I still playing Smash and my niece just got through the second dungeon of BOTW. We will be good for awhile.
Meant first party.
There's been no major first party brand new single player game sine xenoblade 2. Or am I missing something?
It's bizarre given the massive success of zelda and mario.b
Yeah, it's kinda weird. I thought wih the consolidation of their efforts each year would be like that first one. I guess the teams that didn't go through HD growing pains on Wii U are experiencing that now as they move from 3DS development?
Good news is that this time around there is plenty to play from other publishers
Good news is that this time around there is plenty to play from other publishers
I think we have to compare to other platforms if we're making judgements about what is a reasonable amount of first party games to expect. It's true that it matters less for Sony/Xbox because they get more third party but Sony has like 12 studios worldwide and still have a pretty consistent output to Nintendo. That tells me that asking more from Nintendo is not reasonable.
Switch 1st year did spoil us, and I think that's because we got a lot of games that had been in production for Wii u and then switched (pun intended) plus Nintendo just sensibly went big in the first year.
One game a month just isn't sustainable in the long term
Thanks for this.
I do wonder if Nintendo's potential size [employee headcount] can only scale to a certain number and they are unable to grow further without affecting it's culture and ethos.
Me, from another thread -
https://www.resetera.com/threads/wi...re-becoming-hard-to-ignore.49327/post-9371407
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In any case, N can take three approaches to the "hybrid" / combined handheld and console paradigm.
1 - Target a handheld development pipeline and upscale to TV [eg gameboy games scaled to TV using a Super Gameboy adaptor on SNES or Gameboy Player on Gamecube}.
2 - Target a console development pipeline and scale to handheld [eg PC Engine and PC Engine GT where both games are identical but the game is developed for a console as a base target].
3 - Optimise for both handheld and console experiences. Which is what N have targeted for NSW. Takes a lot more development time.
Just for me personally, I don't really care for new and shiny. I would have been happy with just an incremental NEW 3DS like hardware if it means keeping the Japanese on-board and Nintendo producing games faster.
Yeah, but "Nintendo-developed" and "until June" are unnecessary qualifiers, don't you think? There's plenty of great games coming out on the Switch otherwise, and Nintendo's exclusive lineup starting June is going to more than make up for a slower first half of the year.
I mean, there's so much on the eShop that I have a hard time feeling the drought. It'll obviously be different for other people but the break gives me time to clear out my backlog before Sekiro, BoxBoy, and Three Houses. Obviously I would prefer more Nintendo, but they just gave me a free Tetris Battle Royal and the biggest Smash ever, my Switch is getting the most play it's gotten since BOTW.
It was likely developed as a promo for Prime 4. Why release it now when the game got delayed? It'd sell but it's main goal was likely to catch people up before the new game hit.
Also do we have any definitive proof it even exists? People were super sure about Prime 4 showing up at the Game Awards and then we found out they were starting over.
It was likely developed as a promo for Prime 4. Why release it now when the game got delayed? It'd sell but it's main goal was likely to catch people up before the new game hit.
Also do we have any definitive proof it even exists? People were super sure about Prime 4 showing up at the Game Awards and then we found out they were starting over.
How many of the titles you listed there are first party?
If its not first party then they dont count. Looks like a drought to me.
Welcome to the wonderful weird world where different rules apply for "reasons".
of course they can rely on third-parties for the switch. there's a crapload of third-party games on the switch and ones that have done pretty well, and they generally appeal to a different audience than the western developer-focused ps4 and xb1 libraries.
People complain because Nintendo is not getting the same breadth or quality of third party AAA games as the other consoles. Xbox and PS4 dont need as many 1st party games.
Metro exodus
RE2
KH3
Anthem
Divison 2
Apex legends
Sekiro
Far cry
Etc
Nintendo gets so much pressure because they still have poor 3rd party output in comparison
Honestly, I'd even be ok with a piecemeal strategy. Release each game digitally for $20 once a year while we wait for MP4. And then they can collect them all on one cart before MP4 comes out. That gives people time to actually play through these games before 4 comes out and keeps them in the public mind.
Does anybody just game on the switch. It's a complimentary console. A must have one But you also must have another system