Yo era, not all new rappers are mumble rappers. A thread for understanding hip hop.

[Heromanz]

With the MK12 thread shown me that many people don't know much about modern hip hop.. THere seem to a view that hip hop is lesser than other form of music . For one not every new rapper is a mumble rapper. Like 21 savage isnt a mumble rapper in the slightest.



Like this aint mumble rap

Not every new rapper is a soundcloud rapper. Hip hop is a ever changing gerne with 100s of great artist. This idea that hip hop is in shadow of it formers self is deeply flawed. In this modern era we witness some of the great albums in music history.
I mean damn came out last year



These are some of the great song


Is there more bad shit out today, eh not really, there is just better access to the bad shit but the same can be said about good stuff.

 

[vestan]

I've always hated that term. Most rappers that get labelled "mumble rappers" ain't even mumbling. Just a dumb buzzword used to dismiss.

 

[Commodore64]

A lot of people who say they hate modern rap music actually hate modern pop music.

 

[shnurgleton]

I like mumble rap
I also like non mumble rap

 

[Equippedwithtowel]

This thread is well intentioned and will probably have some good recs but the people who need to be reached don't really leave gaming side.

that being said:
https://soundcloud.com/user-747754762/sets/reign-supreme-bruiser-brigade
Danny Brown szn starts 2019

edit: apparently not 😩

 

[KiLLaDeZo]

Hip hop is dead , get with the times.

 

[TheGhost]

Yeah but the style shown in this video is still wack though. There is the mumble rappers and then there is this Kendrick Lamar/Childish Gambino flow that is also ass.

That and they all sound soft. It still sounds like a downgrade from the shit that knocked down the doors for these weak soft flows to get on the scene.

 

[blonded]

Nothing wrong with mumble rap. Playboi Carti had one of the best albums this year.

 

[BossAttack]

Yeah but the style shown in this video is still wack though. There is the mumble rappers and then there is this Kendrick Lamar/Childish Gambino flow that is also ass.

That and they all sound soft. It still sounds like a downgrade from the shit that knocked down the doors for these weak soft flows to get on the scene.

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Go home.

 

[CoolestSpot]

Yeah but the style shown in this video is still wack though. There is the mumble rappers and then there is this Kendrick Lamar/Childish Gambino flow that is also ass.

That and they all sound soft. It still sounds like a downgrade from the shit that knocked down the doors for these weak soft flows to get on the scene.

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Oh no baby what you doing

 

[Heromanz]

Yeah but the style shown in this video is still wack though. There is the mumble rappers and then there is this Kendrick Lamar/Childish Gambino flow that is also ass.

That and they all sound soft. It still sounds like a downgrade from the shit that knocked down the doors for these weak soft flows to get on the scene.

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What? Like why are you comparing Kendrick and childish Gambino? And that video is not even close to Kendrick stlye

 

[HiLife]

Kamikaze AOTY.

 

[slabrock]

 

[Freakzilla]

I like some mumble rap. Hip hop is still really good. That being said, the song in the OP sucks. And I can't speak for everyone, but I have a general hate and jadedness towards everything that is new and everything that is different than what I like.

 

[slabrock]

savage doing ASMR is weird, though

 

[TheGhost]

What? Like why are you comparing Kendrick and childish Gambino?

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Cause they both rhyme the same way
That flow is garbage.

Kendrick imo brings shame to the MC's that came before him in that location . Childish Gambino shouldn't even be running around with that name Imo. With that said he should have stuck to his old flow instead of the one he used on This is America.

I blame the audience and the youth for letting this shit flourish. They let these soft dudes get popular.

 

[TelluricTokoro]

I mean, the song you posted is still trash and 21 Savage still isn't good, mumble rap or not, so what's really your point?

Cause they both rhyme the same way
That flow is garbage.

Kendrick imo brings shame to the MC's that came before him in that location . Childish Gambino shouldn't even be running around with that name Imo. With that said he should have stuck to his old flow instead of the one he used on This is America.

I blame the audience and the youth for letting this shit flourish. They let these soft dudes get popular.

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But nah, you wildin. Gambino and Kendrick don't rap near the same. In fact, Kendrick uses a different flow on damn near every song. His cadence and mic presence is the most versatile of any mainstream emcee, right now.

And Gambino don't even rap anymore. He's never rhymed like Kendrick, because he's always styled his delivery around Lil Wayne and his punchlines are Kanye-level corny, which makes sense as he believes himself to be Kanye's son.

Stop exposing yourself in here, bruh. You clearly don't listen to either of these dudes enough to make a credible judgment on their skills, and this is from someone who doesn't like either of them.

 

[Equippedwithtowel]

Cause they both rhyme the same way
That flow is garbage.

Kendrick imo brings shame to the MC's that came before him in that location . Childish Gambino shouldn't even be running around with that name Imo. With that said he should have stuck to his old flow instead of the one he used on This is America.

I blame the audience and the youth for letting this shit flourish. They let these soft dudes get popular.

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Did you live through the late 2000s. This is not new

Also it's weird to say that Kendrick has a generic flow. Too verbose for his own good? maybe a little bit but untitled 02 is a fucking clinic

 

[Robin]

They let these soft dudes get popular.

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I hate this schtick.

 

[Wamb0wneD]

OP I think some of these people don't listen to rap in general. Like with that MK 11 trailer, a lot of people are metalheads or whatever else and just caught a nice buzzword to use regardless whether it's applicable or not.
There are tons of these folks on gaming side, it's not that bad here.

Cause they both rhyme the same way
That flow is garbage.

Kendrick imo brings shame to the MC's that came before him in that location . Childish Gambino shouldn't even be running around with that name Imo. With that said he should have stuck to his old flow instead of the one he used on This is America.

I blame the audience and the youth for letting this shit flourish. They let these soft dudes get popular.

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Kendrick flows like garbage? What?


Did you really just compare OP's example to this? The fuck are you talking about lol.

 

[TheGhost]

OP I think some of these people don't listen to rap in general. Like with that MK 11 trailer, a lot of people are metalheads or whatever else and just caught a nice buzzword to use regardless whether it's applicable or not.
There are tons of these folks on gaming side, it's not that bad here.

Kendrick flows like garbage? What?


Did you really just compare OP's example to this? The fuck are you talking about lol.

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You had to dig back to 2011 to find when he was somewhat competent and now he flows like the guy in the OP. Whatever you call that style? I think it's ass. Give me that punch you in the face and stomp you out with timbs style any day over this.

Same thing with the MK trailer. Some people hate the trailer music because that shit is not hip hop to them.

 

[Powdered Egg]

The MK song is ass cheeks, trailer or not. Gimme someone who spots like Biggie.

 

[Hueytothe]

This dude is calling Kendrick garbage, im deceased.
This dude must be trapped in the 90s.

 

[Wamb0wneD]

You had to dig back to 2011 to find when he was somewhat competent

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"Somewhat" lol

and now he flows like the guy in the OP.

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No he doesn't. At all.

Whatever you call that style? I think it's ass. Give me that punch you in the face and stomp you out with timbs style any day over this.

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Not sure why you ask for a specific description of a style when you make up random shit yourself right here lol.
Even if I did the same you would still confuse Kendircks flow with Metro Boomin's for some inane reason.

Same thing with the MK trailer. Some people hate the trailer music because that shit is not hip hop to them.

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Some people are sad then. You can still enjoy the stuff you like without misslabeling other styles and talk shit about it constantly.

 

[Mass Effect]

7 posts in and the thread is already derailed.

Par for the course really

 

[CoolestSpot]

You had to dig back to 2011 to find when he was somewhat competent and now he flows like the guy in the OP. Whatever you call that style? I think it's ass. Give me that punch you in the face and stomp you out with timbs style any day over this.

Same thing with the MK trailer. Some people hate the trailer music because that shit is not hip hop to them.

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Bro what

 

[CoolestSpot]

Can we discuss underrated rappers in various subgenres? I'd love some suggestions.

 

[TheGhost]

Bro what

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You're easily impressed I guess.

 

[Wamb0wneD]

Can we discuss underrated rappers in various subgenres? I'd love some suggestions.

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Here you go: (Sorry for the offtopic OP)

 

[ZeoVGM]

People throwing out "mumble rap" in the MK11 threads was one of the more embarrassing things I've read lately.

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

Hip hop was so much better in the 90s

/s

 

[TarpitCarnivore]

Also maybe it's just the circles I run in but god damn do I feel like Big Krit is underrated

 

[Deleted member 23091]

I hate trap beats as much I hate mumble rap. Boom bap and G-funk are still the best rap genres. I agree that the 21 Savage's song isn't mumble rap, it's just bad rap.

 

[Heromanz]

Here you go: (Sorry for the offtopic OP)

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That ain't all topic for him I want people to understand what hip hop can be and it is

 

[Wamb0wneD]

That ain't all topic for him I want people to understand what hip hop can be and it is

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Seems like people disagreeing with you already made up their mind, sadly. One is just borderline trolling in here lol...

 

[Hoa]

Cause they both rhyme the same way
That flow is garbage.

Kendrick imo brings shame to the MC's that came before him in that location . Childish Gambino shouldn't even be running around with that name Imo. With that said he should have stuck to his old flow instead of the one he used on This is America.

I blame the audience and the youth for letting this shit flourish. They let these soft dudes get popular.

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Ya'll fascination with someone being/appearing 'hard" is some other shit. I can understand if it's just a preference thing, but for a other folks just because your favorites are hard doesn't mean you are.

I really liked J.I.D's new release this year. Modern Atlanta sound with great substance.


Earthgang is great too from ATL

 

[Heromanz]

Cause they both rhyme the same way
That flow is garbage.

Kendrick imo brings shame to the MC's that came before him in that location . Childish Gambino shouldn't even be running around with that name Imo. With that said he should have stuck to his old flow instead of the one he used on This is America.

I blame the audience and the youth for letting this shit flourish. They let these soft dudes get popular.

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but they don't, i am donald glover barely even raps anymore and when he did he didnt some like kendrick.

 

[TheGhost]

Hip hop was so much better in the 90s

/s

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I mean it was...

 

[Trufflesguy Law]

OP, I agree 100%. I walked in that MK11 thread and got exactly what I expected. I hate when people use 'mumble rap' as some pejorative to downplay modern hip-hop. I think there's something deeply racist about it. Like it sends the message of "you're not speaking English the 'right way'", which is a prejudiced idea that has existed for years. Modern hip-hop artists are constantly breathing new life into the genre.

You had to dig back to 2011 to find when he was somewhat competent and now he flows like the guy in the OP. Whatever you call that style? I think it's ass. Give me that punch you in the face and stomp you out with timbs style any day over this.

Same thing with the MK trailer. Some people hate the trailer music because that shit is not hip hop to them.

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Aight, bet, then here's something from 2015



Here's something from 2017


The fact of the matter is that Kendrick Lamar, at his best, displays such a profound amount of technical precision and microphone presence that he has a legitimate claim to being the GOAT. All of that combines with powerful and thoughtful lyrics. Like "For Free?" is a mixed meter, rhythmically complex song about how he feels pimped by the record industry and likens it to the way black men have be sexualized, in this country, for centuries.

You're showin your ass here dude.

 

[Heromanz]

Hip hop was so much better in the 90s

/s

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THe 80s were better

 

[Kreed]

This thread is well intentioned and will probably have some good recs but the people who need to be reached don't really leave gaming side.

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Yep, this thread is directed at the wrong section of posters. But as you said, the intent is good and there are posters that participate in EtcetEra that this will be useful for anyway.

 

[WaffleTaco]

Eh, Trap is why people don't like modern rap music. Mumble is annoying, but can work in some instances. Trap is like if you solely focused on production and disregarded the chorus and the verses. So much good music production is wasted on this subsection of rap.

2010-2014>2015-2019; even Kendrick can't save this half of the decade.

 

[HiLife]

THe 80s were better

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Nah. Drake era alone = golden era of rap.

 

[AtomLung]

Imagine saying we are getting some of the best albums in music history and then providing ASTROWORLD as an example. Like how much music have you actually listened to bro? I agree with the premise of the thread though.

 

[Deleted member 15428]

Mumble rappers?
Soundcloud rappers?

 

[House_Of_Lightning]

I always considered "mumble rap" just the bad to non existent flow of Chief Keef or Future at their worst.

I can see how the song in OP would be called mumble rap. Or talk rap.

It's just kinda..... weak.

 

[Heromanz]

Imagine saying we are getting some of the best albums in music history and then providing ASTROWORLD as an example. Like how much music have you actually listened to bro? I agree with the premise of the thread though.

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Astroworld is a fantastic album and has had tremendous commercial success

 

[Gentlemen]

I'm old.

Someone please actually define 'mumble rap' for me so I can make sense of this thread. Provide canonical examples of where it started and where it's at right now.

 

[Deleted member 4532]

Cause they both rhyme the same way
That flow is garbage.

Kendrick imo brings shame to the MC's that came before him in that location . Childish Gambino shouldn't even be running around with that name Imo. With that said he should have stuck to his old flow instead of the one he used on This is America.

I blame the audience and the youth for letting this shit flourish. They let these soft dudes get popular.

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You're showing everyone you don't onow what you're talkimg about. They don't nearly the same at all and as much as I love Donald Glover, he's not a very good rapper to be compared to Kendrick. He doesn't even rap anymore anyway.

 

[Deleted member 39479]

Someone just made yet another MK11 music thread on gaming side lol.

I hate how the term mumble rap gets thrown around. Just because a rapper isn't going super hard, it doesn't mean they're mumbling. Let dudes be "soft" for Pete's sake.