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LAM09

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Oct 25, 2017
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The art is easily the best thing about Online. I just wish I ha a online gallery to look at it all, I'm not really all that interested in playing the gacha game, but it'd be nice for the artwork to be preserved.

As someone that hasn't really followed Online, does it have much substance or is it more of a filler prior to Shin?
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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As someone that hasn't really followed Online, does it have much substance or is it more of a filler prior to Shin?
I'd say its better than filler - they've been doing a pretty good job at building up the personalities of several of the main characters and have a pretty good mystery going at the moment (who is "X" that is helping Ichiban). Gameplay wise feels pretty one dimensional though, but I can't say any Gacha game really does it for me.
It also gets some good side stories that further build up the main cast. Its not mind blowing, but its at least help tide me over until now. That said, I am interested to see just where the plot will go next month, and just how much of its plot is used in Shin RGG.
 

mudai

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Oct 27, 2017
4,333
The art of Ryu ga Gotoku Online is fantastic. But yeah, I'm also not very interested in playing a gacha game to be honest. And normally I would play literally anything by RGG Studio.
 

LAM09

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'd say its better than filler - they've been doing a pretty good job at building up the personalities of several of the main characters and have a pretty good mystery going at the moment (who is "X" that is helping Ichiban). Gameplay wise feels pretty one dimensional though, but I can't say any Gacha game really does it for me.
It also gets some good side stories that further build up the main cast. Its not mind blowing, but its at least help tide me over until now. That said, I am interested to see just where the plot will go next month, and just how much of its plot is used in Shin RGG.

Thanks for the rundown.
 

SparkleMotion

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Nov 3, 2017
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Did anyone else find the substories in Yakuza 6...kinda boring? I did every substory in 3, 4 and 5, but when it came to 6, I ended the game with like 30 of them done. I didn't feel the urge to do any more.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Nope. 6 had less side stories but I found them super fun/funny. Some tie up plots started in 0, the Ono Michio stuff is hilarious, the time travel girl plot rocks and the Hiji phone app side story cracked me up as well. I just wish there were more of them.
 

mudai

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Oct 27, 2017
4,333
Yeah, I really enjoyed the side stories in Yakuza 6 as well. I do think that they should never go back to try to voice them all though. I mean it was cool and all, but I don't think it's needed, and not just because they could make more of them without voicing them.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yakuza 5 wants me to continue Shinada's story and discover the shocking secret behind the Nagoya Family. Meanwhile, I'm just training and breeding racing chickens... Pity Ishin basically gutted the mini game and made it just about betting on the chickens, with some more nuance with the breeding options this could have been up there with Pocket Circuit Racing. As it stands its still fun, but you can basically brute force it with enough money and some smart choices when picking your chickens breeding mate.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Saw this on the Yakuza subreddit earlier. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but something Yakuza 3 Gamescom related has shown up on this German games site Gamescom schedule: https://rocketbeans.tv/sendeplan (the 21st at 09:30).
Yeah, saw that posted yesterday as well. Will be interesting to see if anything comes of it.

Getting hyped for this thread's title update.
I'm getting hyped for people still not reading the thread title every new page ;)
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yuki rocks. Best hostess ever. Then again, that actually says more about how I don't really rate most hostess side stories in the series... Kiwami, 0, Kiwami 2 all have good ones here and there, I think 6 might as well but I forget...

That said, Majima's hostess in Dead Souls is probably the funniest to romance because all his options are silly responses (and end up be the right choices!).

Anyway, more actual plot progress done with Shinada today. The big secret of Nagoya is out, and its onto his final chapter. After that it'll be onto the finale, which will be epic. 90 odd hours into the game so far... yeah, that 100% clear is gonna take me a while (55% at the moment!)
 
Oct 25, 2017
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You're telling me that this part of the game isn't exclusive to Yakuza 0? God is real.

I want Yuki in every game. Not just every Yakuza game either.

Yuki and Marina buddy cop game when
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Yes and no. Hostess clubs are in every Yakuza game, Hostess Club management however takes several forms in only some Yakuza games.

For example:
0, Kiwami 2, FOTNS - all have cabaret club shift management. Kiwami 2 plays identically (disappointingly so) to 0, while FOTNS freshens up the format and introduces in new mechanics and gimmicks while also speeding the pace up considerably. Only issue I have with FOTNS is the writing for the associated side stories aren't close to how good 0 and Kiwami 2's are.

2 - Hostess Club management - so 2 has a very different mini game compared to Kiwami 2. It has you deciding on the decor of the club instead of managing the shift. You spend money to get better gear and help the club earn more and more money while stopping the club from going under (and stopping the evil doers who are trying to screw over the club manager). The gameplay for this is cool but the plot is forgettable, especially next to Kiwami 2's Four Shine which is basically a part 2 to 0s cabaret club plot.

3,4 - No.1 Hostess Girl management - create unique looks for the girls (tailoring to customer requests) so that they can rise through the ranks of the hostess club and become No.1 Hostess. Its pretty simple once you get the perfect looks down, but basically your getting the girls to wear certain things while building up their skills.

I think that's it. I can't recall any of the other games having similar things. Of course 2 also has the Host Club mini game, something that was also skipped over for the remake disappointingly. It was a nice unique take on the concept.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Yes and no. Hostess clubs are in every Yakuza game, Hostess Club management however takes several forms in only some Yakuza games.

For example:
0, Kiwami 2, FOTNS - all have cabaret club shift management. Kiwami 2 plays identically (disappointingly so) to 0, while FOTNS freshens up the format and introduces in new mechanics and gimmicks while also speeding the pace up considerably. Only issue I have with FOTNS is the writing for the associated side stories aren't close to how good 0 and Kiwami 2's are.

2 - Hostess Club management - so 2 has a very different mini game compared to Kiwami 2. It has you deciding on the decor of the club instead of managing the shift. You spend money to get better gear and help the club earn more and more money while stopping the club from going under (and stopping the evil doers who are trying to screw over the club manager). The gameplay for this is cool but the plot is forgettable, especially next to Kiwami 2's Four Shine which is basically a part 2 to 0s cabaret club plot.

3,4 - No.1 Hostess Girl management - create unique looks for the girls (tailoring to customer requests) so that they can rise through the ranks of the hostess club and become No.1 Hostess. Its pretty simple once you get the perfect looks down, but basically your getting the girls to wear certain things while building up their skills.

I think that's it. I can't recall any of the other games having similar things. Of course 2 also has the Host Club mini game, something that was also skipped over for the remake disappointingly. It was a nice unique take on the concept.
This sounds great to me, I can't wait to see the other games' versions of it. Do 3 and 4 have cool stories for the girls too?
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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This sounds great to me, I can't wait to see the other games' versions of it. Do 3 and 4 have cool stories for the girls too?
Well... I don't remember them at all. So don't set your expectations high. Good hostess stories are a exception, but they have been getting better in newer games. Too many of them feel like they fall into the trap of "want to make it big, Yakuza end up blackmailing them to do porn until X steps in and stops them".

Kiwami has a decent hostess plot revolving around the girl being gay, and her dialogue is pretty entertaining and her plot doesn't fall into the above template. The girl Akiyama romances in Yakuza 5 is still looking at the "fame" angle but her overall plot as you see her more is about her voice, rather than the usual plot the games throw up for hostesses.

Its very hit and miss hostess wise, I mainly just do the section for completion and Karaoke.
 

Keith Stat

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Oct 25, 2017
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Saw this on the Yakuza subreddit earlier. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but something Yakuza 3 Gamescom related has shown up on this German games site Gamescom schedule: https://rocketbeans.tv/sendeplan (the 21st at 09:30).

Yessssss finallllyyyyy. I try to be cautious about getting hyped about these types of things, but UNLESS it's the unluckiest typo w/logo mistake for something that is also heavily rumored, then this is it. Obviously they aren't showing off the over a year-old release of Yakuza 3 remaster in Japanese at a German show.

2019 has been a great year for video games for many, unfortunately it just hasn't been things that appeal to me. The saving grace of 2019 for me was that I expected it to be a glorious "year of Yakuza" as I planned to catch up on 3-5 remasters, then 6 and Judgement. While I assumed this would have all happened much earlier than mid-August, it's better late than never!

Hah, good for them as they basically just sold me 5 Yakuza games (3-6 and Judgements) that I'll 100% now pick up.
 
Oct 27, 2017
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Saw this on the Yakuza subreddit earlier. Doesn't necessarily mean anything, but something Yakuza 3 Gamescom related has shown up on this German games site Gamescom schedule: https://rocketbeans.tv/sendeplan (the 21st at 09:30).
Oh man I hope so.

I am very close to replaying one of the current PS4 games because I just can't get enough of the series. It is crazy how thirsty I become.
I might have to replay Dead Souls at this point, as that game is unlikely to get a remaster or remake anytime soon.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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90+ hours later and I'm finally back as Kiryu, who's now reached Kamurocho in Yakuza 5... ah the more the games evolve this place stays largely the same. Its like coming home, such a nice place to explore for the millionth time. I've not actually advanced the plot any, I've been mainly just messing around and doing the side quest to unlock the limit break on leveling. Also, coin locker keys. Kamurocho looks great as expected and the game remains so damn smooth to play.

Meanwhile, Shinada's last chapter is again another great one. He gets a fantastic long fight in chapter 3, that also has a few boss fights and perhaps the maddest twist in the entire series (yes, more so than Kazama twins), and I love it. Especially when its fully revealed in chapter 4 just how screwed Shinada has been these past 15 years. Kinda sad really, poor guy was one giant scapegoat. There are a few other plot points I really love in this part including:
Shinada and Daigo facing off. I do wonder why Shinada takes more offence to Daigo's offer of help than him being Tojo's leader (you know, on account of the clan being partially responsible for fucking him over all those years ago). In the Japanese version its accompanied by a really nice battle theme, pretty mellow really, but sets the stage perfectly for the fight.
Shinada confronting Sawada and learning just how deep the corruption goes with the Nagoya Family, Omi and his old coach... Its topped off with a cool fight, but more so a really cool moment where he reveals to Sawada that he'd been waiting 15 years to finally hit his curve ball. Its just a nice way of finishing the chapter with Shinada hitting that home run. He's a really interesting, different character and while maybe that's not quite what the overall plot needed at this late point in the game, its a really nice change of setting and pace.

Oh, one last cool moment, after leaving for Tokyo Shinada leaves the money, ball and a note for Takasugi asking him to give his kids a share of the remaining money. Sitting all alone in Shinada's shack he remarks to himself... "I'm not even married". Its kinda funny just how much of his image is completely fake (no family, no affiliation to the Nagoya Family)... he's all show, but he goes so well with Shinada.
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Now I look forward to all the epic battles the finale has. Oh, and starting the arena and several other mini games I've not even had a chance to touch yet. lol, Yakuza 5 just keeps on going even when you hit the end.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Any news on that Gamescom Yakuza 3 PS4?
Nope, as I think I said in the other thread, I'd temper your expectations. One site had a random "leak" and that's it. Pretty flimsy reasoning. I have my doubts it'll be announced.
Eh, who knows though, I sure don't. All I know is I gotta focus on clearing the finale of Yakuza 5 and get hyped for Shin RGG next week!
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Oh, and maybe this is why your telling people to be patient Romain ?


RGGS Panel at Gamescom on Wednesday. I mean, assuming this isn't some sort of retrospective on the games they've produced, it seems rather likely they'll announce something? Because it's sure strange to hold a panel otherwise, what with them not having any upcoming announced Yakuza games to promote. Hype slowly rising...
 

Danthrax

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Oct 25, 2017
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can we get a THREAD TITLE CHANGE

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metalgear89

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Oct 27, 2017
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Just started kiwami after finishing zero, and this skill tree is really weird. In some cases i can't get brawler abilities without getting some beast ones? And it is the same with a few other abilities for different fighting types, looks like an absolute mess. Also i can't explain why but the fighting just doesn't seem as fun as in zero.

Also majima is batshit insane, i know it is a budget remake of the yakuza 1 on the ps2 but damn i wish they would have toned his crazyness down a bit.

Other than that really enjoying it.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Just started kiwami after finishing zero, and this skill tree is really weird. In some cases i can't get brawler abilities without getting some beast ones? And it is the same with a few other abilities for different fighting types, looks like an absolute mess. Also i can't explain why but the fighting just doesn't seem as fun as in zero.

Also majima is batshit insane, i know it is a budget remake of the yakuza 1 on the ps2 but damn i wish they would have toned his crazyness down a bit.

Other than that really enjoying it.
Tone the craziness down? Sounds like character assassination right there. 0 skirted close to the line enough as it was with them essentially giving him a completely different personality, I'd have been angry if they'd have decided to rewrite Yakuza 1 to remove that. And I'd wager fans in Japan would have been livid as well, seeing as he's always been damn popular thanks to his crazier side even before 0.
 

edo_kid

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Oct 27, 2017
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Seeing people talk about how crazy Majima got in Y1 is the same as me talking about how sane Majima was Y0.

From my point of view they should have upped his crazyness a bit.
 

shadowman16

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Oct 25, 2017
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Seeing people talk about how crazy Majima got in Y1 is the same as me talking about how sane Majima was Y0.

From my point of view they should have upped his crazyness a bit.
Agreed. I loved the plot in 0, but its so weird to see a reluctant Majima when he's been bloodthirsty in all the previous games. I mean, one of his original traits (that has seemingly been forgotten) is in earlier games he always wanted to be the guy that killed Kiryu. And yet somehow Kiryu's friendship with him never faltered... they truly are the oddest couple in videogames.

Oh, and its great news to see the collection coming out in English. Once it's officially confirmed someone should probably change that tread title! Still sorta crazy to think of all three games released in one package though. While 3 has definitely less content than later games a trophy/100% completion run will still take around 100 hours, with 4 and 5 easily passing that for 100% runs. That amount of content in this collection... a bargain at $60 or even twice the price!

Also woo! Overhauled localisation, side story markers (super important since they are missable) and released today? Guess I'll quintuple dip as I'll get them physically as well next year!
 

NattyBo

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Dec 29, 2017
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Agreed. I loved the plot in 0, but its so weird to see a reluctant Majima when he's been bloodthirsty in all the previous games. I mean, one of his original traits (that has seemingly been forgotten) is in earlier games he always wanted to be the guy that killed Kiryu. And yet somehow Kiryu's friendship with him never faltered... they truly are the oddest couple in videogames.

Oh, and its great news to see the collection coming out in English. Once it's officially confirmed someone should probably change that tread title! Still sorta crazy to think of all three games released in one package though. While 3 has definitely less content than later games a trophy/100% completion run will still take around 100 hours, with 4 and 5 easily passing that for 100% runs. That amount of content in this collection... a bargain at $60 or even twice the price!

Also woo! Overhauled localisation, side story markers (super important since they are missable) and released today? Guess I'll quintuple dip as I'll get them physically as well next year!

Does overhauled localization mean they're not going to refer to Kazama as Fuma anymore? That was really jarring for me.
 

NattyBo

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Dec 29, 2017
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Washington, DC
BTW all we need to do to get the thread title change is just report the original post to the mods, with a note asking for the change. That's how I originally got the "no remasters news yet" added.
 

metalgear89

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Oct 27, 2017
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Tone the craziness down? Sounds like character assassination right there. 0 skirted close to the line enough as it was with them essentially giving him a completely different personality, I'd have been angry if they'd have decided to rewrite Yakuza 1 to remove that. And I'd wager fans in Japan would have been livid as well, seeing as he's always been damn popular thanks to his crazier side even before 0.
Even though I prefer majima from zero, I think the devs should have kept him as crazy as he is in the kiwami.

For anyone who plays zero first it is a bit of a shock and you are wanting to understand how he lost the plot. And that scene at the end of zero where he says he wants to be care free isn't enough to explain that.