Wow I didn't expect so soon. Yikes I've got to finish 4-6 ASAP lol.
Wow I didn't expect so soon. Yikes I've got to finish 4-6 ASAP lol.
I assume 7 won't have spoilers for 4-6 since it's a new character? Any reports on that from it's Japanese release?
Except one thing which would be pretty obvious so I wouldn't count it as a real spoiler, Y7 won't really have much story stuff from Y4-6 spoiled.I assume 7 won't have spoilers for 4-6 since it's a new character? Any reports on that from it's Japanese release?
While that's true, in recent entries they've done more paid DLCs here as well. Judgment for instance had a decoration items pack paid DLC and a paid girlfriends pack + Saori DLC.If I recall correctly, similar dlc stuff for Japanese Yakuza releases has been included for free in western localizations.
I'd expect this to be included when we get the game over here.
Do fuck off with this uninformed garbage, Maybe you should actually look up the plot of the game and realise that its far more important to Yakuza's main cannon than the last 3 games combined. But that'd actually require looking beyond the fact its turn based, something your probably unable to do.just another reason why this shouldn't have been a mainline Yakuza title
It could have been done as a spinoff like Judgement, no need to attack people for that.Do fuck off with this uninformed garbage, Maybe you should actually look up the plot of the game and realise that its far more important to Yakuza's main cannon than the last 3 games combined. But that'd actually require looking beyond the fact its turn based, something your probably unable to do.
NG+ being paid DLC is an absolute joke, just another reason why this shouldn't have been a mainline Yakuza title
Stop supporting this kind of crap for fuck sake. Thers a diference betweed releasing paid DLC like extra costumes and expansions, to this crap, that is pretty much cutting feautures that was available in previous games, and now selling them as PAID DLC. Just stop supporting greed.Curious to see what sort of difficulty this is. I certainly want Yakuza to be difficult again, so I'll purchase it on that factor alone. Yakuza has been pathetically easy for over a decade now (basically 4 and up have been insulting easy on the highest difficulty), if buying an actual hard mode that's hard gets it through the developers thick skulls, so be it.
I mean, I could cry about how they've bizarrely cut NG+ out of the main game, but then I realise my save file is 130 hours and I've still not 100%ed the game. So... yeah I really don't mind throwing them further cash for what is still the most content filled series out there. And as to why more paid DLC exists... well its twofold - everyone else is doing paid DLC of some description, and sales have been decreasing since Yakuza 2... so eventually it was bound to happen. They are still doing weekly free DLCs anyway.
Not calling it Yakuza 7 is a mistake, IMO. What are they going to call 8 when it releases in the west, Yakuza 2? Changing the numbering of mainline games is a relic of the 90s that shouldn't be brought back.It could have been done as a spinoff like Judgement, no need to attack people for that.
Hell, they don't even dare calling it Yakuza 7 in the west.
Seriously, don't fucking tell me what to do. You don't want to support it? I totally understand, but I will damn well do so if I please. But if it leads to an actual hard mode (which, no, has not been in Yakuza for over a decade, I mean an actual hard mode, not easy mode called "hard" mode) I'm all for supporting it.Stop supporting this kind of crap for fuck sake. Thers a diference betweed releasing paid DLC like extra costumes and expansions, to this crap, that is pretty much cutting feautures that was available in previous games, and now selling them as PAID DLC. Just stop supporting greed.
Judgment has 0 bearing on Yakuza and aside from a few nods here and there does not affect the overall plot. 7 does, heavily. And if they did it as a spinoff you'd only get people bitching about it being like Kingdom Hearts where side stories hold vital plot that directly plays into sequels (like so many "spinoffs" did for the main plot for KH3).It could have been done as a spinoff like Judgement, no need to attack people for that.
Hell, they don't even dare calling it Yakuza 7 in the west.
Not calling it Yakuza 7 is a mistake, IMO. What are they going to call 8 when it releases in the west, Yakuza 2? Changing the numbering of mainline games is a relic of the 90s that shouldn't be brought back.
Numbering sequels is out of fashion now. They'll probably keep putting new subtitles on them instead. TBH I kinda wish this game was called Yakuza: The Whereabouts of Light and Darkness.Not calling it Yakuza 7 is a mistake, IMO. What are they going to call 8 when it releases in the west, Yakuza 2? Changing the numbering of mainline games is a relic of the 90s that shouldn't be brought back.
When u support greed, your pretty much giving them a thumbs up for they business decisions. Which preety much makes them keep adding greedy shit to a franchise that was pretty fair with its dlc, when most of it was free in the west. And how can u be so naive thinking this hard mode will be any diferent than previous games Legendary modes?Seriously, don't fucking tell me what to do. You don't want to support it? I totally understand, but I will damn well do so if I please. But if it leads to an actual hard mode (which, no, has not been in Yakuza for over a decade, I mean an actual hard mode, not easy mode called "hard" mode) I'm all for supporting it.
I kinda get why they did it, to try and appeal to new players but it's still just really offputting to me. If people end up liking the game they're gonna look it up online and find out that it's actually the 7th mainline game anyway.Yeah, I was thinking about that recently too. I can see why they're doing it, but it could lead to a lot of confusion in the future when Ryu ga Gotoku 8 has suddenly to be called Yakuza: Like a Dragon 2. It would really be back to name shenanigans like in the 90s which I'm personally not a big fan of. While 7 is in fact tied to the main canon of the series, it can also be a starting point for new players, because it's pretty much a soft reboot with an entirely new cast. Not calling it Yakuza 7 kinda avoids the question "can I start with this one? Do I have to play all the other games before it?" and thus perhaps missing out on potential sales by newcomers. That's at least what I came up with thinking about the reasoning for the different title in the west. Personally, I wish they would call it Yakuza 7 simply because it is a continuation of the main plot, despite an entirely new playable cast.
I agree.Not calling it Yakuza 7 is a mistake, IMO. What are they going to call 8 when it releases in the west, Yakuza 2? Changing the numbering of mainline games is a relic of the 90s that shouldn't be brought back.
"Like a Dragon" wasn't really marketable back then, and still isn't now.Judgment has 0 bearing on Yakuza and aside from a few nods here and there does not affect the overall plot. 7 does, heavily. And if they did it as a spinoff you'd only get people bitching about it being like Kingdom Hearts where side stories hold vital plot that directly plays into sequels (like so many "spinoffs" did for the main plot for KH3).
So no, I don't agree it should be a spinoff, and not calling it 7 over here is baffling. Then again, no more baffling than calling the main series "Yakuza" instead of Like a Dragon to begin with...
Whether you think the combat is terrible (I sure don't, I like it) is certainly something that nobody will ever fully agree on (people are for sure gonna drop off hard on the game due to the turn based combat), I can't agree that you could view 7's plot as anything less than insanely important to the future of the franchise. I mean, you can't. When/if 8 launches, it'll be incredibly interesting to see what's happening due to the repercussions in 7.I agree.
"Like a Dragon" wasn't really marketable back then, and still isn't now.
And while we could talk about the plot of 7 (heavy spoilers), the thing is that some of this stuff isn't so important and wasn't that necessary either. As in it could have had less links to other games and it would have been received the same way by the vast majority of people.
edit: if Yakuza 7 fails in the west, and leads to no "like a dragon 2", I wonder what they'll do.
But man I wish people will try the demo before buying it because that combat is terrible.
This is what I was wondering about. I doubt the game will sell better than the older games with the new combat (which I think looks fun, just not "better than the brawling" fun). Assuming they change the combat back or even the name, it would be weird for new players to start playing Yakuza only to hit 7 and assume it is a spin off or even start playing it to find the combat is different and be weirded out about it (not sure how big of an impression this will be but I am already seeing people going wtf when they find out the combat is turn based).I agree.
"Like a Dragon" wasn't really marketable back then, and still isn't now.
And while we could talk about the plot of 7 (heavy spoilers), the thing is that some of this stuff isn't so important and wasn't that necessary either. As in it could have had less links to other games and it would have been received the same way by the vast majority of people.
edit: if Yakuza 7 fails in the west, and leads to no "like a dragon 2", I wonder what they'll do.
But man I wish people will try the demo before buying it because that combat is terrible.
Didn't hurt the sales in Japan. Didn't help them either. But who knows how people outside of Asia will react but I sincerely doubt its going to crater the series like others think it will.This is what I was wondering about. I doubt the game will sell better than the older games with the new combat (which I think looks fun, just not "better than the brawling" fun). Assuming they change the combat back or even the name, it would be weird for new players to start playing Yakuza only to hit 7 and assume it is a spin off or even start playing it to find the combat is different and be weirded out about it (not sure how big of an impression this will be but I am already seeing people going wtf when they find out the combat is turn based).
I am really interested to see what will happen later this year.
Yakuza: Like a Dragon 2. Like a Dragon is literally how the series is called in japan. They dont use the word Yakuza in the title.I can see why SEGA dropped the 7 in the west, is a soft reboot so not a bad place to start, and all the time we get debates on where to start so i assume SEGA wanted to make another easy entry point like 0. But yeah, i do feel for a 8th game, is gonna be tricky to see what are they gonna call it over here.
I know that of course. I just feel is gonna be odd to have 8 in japan and 2 over here, that's what i was getting at.Yakuza: Like a Dragon 2. Like a Dragon is literally how the series is called in japan. They dont use the word Yakuza in the title.
Disgusting, but the signs were there with those gross microtransanctions they've been introducing more and more in other games.
I was under the impressions that the game sold less than Yakuza 6 in the debut week but I might be wrong.Didn't hurt the sales in Japan. Didn't help them either. But who knows how people outside of Asia will react but I sincerely doubt its going to crater the series like others think it will.
Yakuza series need new players, the player base is very small, staring a new Saga with a new character makes perfect sense to change the name to make it easy for new players. Is not like Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest that each game is a new story, Yakuza has been a continuation, its very offputting for new players to buy a game with a 7 in the end knowing they are missing 7 previous games worth of story that relate to that game. Even if Yakuza 7 uses backgroud story from previous games, at least you staring to follow this new character saga from the starting point. To me was the right decision to do.I know that of course. I just feel is gonna be odd to have 8 in japan and 2 over here, that's what i was getting at.
I was under the impressions that the game sold less than Yakuza 6 in the debut week but I might be wrong.
In any case, it will be interesting to see how the west take it. In my circle no one is getting the game (I was not sure about it myself cause I want to vote with my wallet cause I do not like the direction the series is heading. The difficulity dlc sealed the deal on me not buying it day one). However, my circle doesn't represent everyone over here so we will see what is going to happen.
Less than 6, higher than every other PS4 Yakuza released. Plus, unlike what some expected sales didn't drop through the floor with the genre change but remain pretty stagnant, or even increasing slightly from Kiwami 2, Judge Eyes, 0 etc. (though, 0 was low because the PS3 port leached from potential sales there). My point was more, it didn't suddenly drop to some sub 100K first week.I was under the impressions that the game sold less than Yakuza 6 in the debut week but I might be wrong.
In any case, it will be interesting to see how the west take it. In my circle no one is getting the game (I was not sure about it myself cause I want to vote with my wallet cause I do not like the direction the series is heading. The difficulity dlc sealed the deal on me not buying it day one). However, my circle doesn't represent everyone over here so we will see what is going to happen.
That's fair, i said i understood why SEGA did it, i just have concerns that now we aren't gonna have parity with Japan when it comes to the numbers and that it could have some repercussions in the future localization wise. But who knows, guess we will have to wait and see on that one.Yakuza series need new players, the player base is very small, staring a new Saga with a new character makes perfect sense to change the name to make it easy for new players. Is not like Final Fantasy or Dragon Quest that each game is a new story, Yakuza has been a continuation, its very offputting for new players to buy a game with a 7 in the end knowing they are missing 7 previous games worth of story that relate to that game. Even if Yakuza 7 uses backgroud story from previous games, at least you staring to follow this new character saga from the starting point. To me was the right decision to do.