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XSX Teardown vs PS5 Teardown comparison pic
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I really like how both have been engineered, Visually and form factor XSX is superb, But I think Sony have made a machine that's going to be cooler and quieter in the long run, It seems Sony took the PS4/Pro criticisms a bit more seriously, The big thick fan on that nutty heatsink and the liquid metal is potentially great.
Just to preface this, I'm not saying that the bigger and less powerful system is better engineered. I'm saying we don't have the information to actually make these judgement calls. That's because size and power are not the only factors we would consider when deciding if something was well engineered.
There are plenty of laptops where you could find devices that were smaller and more powerful that you wouldn't in fact want comparative to a larger and less powerful device because it gets hot, throttles performance, or eats up battery power. Similarly, had Nintendo added a stronger GPU/CPU to the Switch, would it be necessarily better engineered?
We can consider the cost of production of the components used. The production cost of the parts involved is going to ring in what engineers can do with their ambitions, and without knowing what the cost actually is, or the hoped for change over time, it's very difficult to judge success.
As you mentioned, sound matters. No doubt, some sort of decibel goal was set for both of these designs.The level which someone considers a good goal will vary, but that doesn't mean they weren't engineered well to meet whatever those standards were.
Then we could consider things like design goals. If a certain housing style was desired, the engineering goals may have been tailored toward it. The engineering might be very successful in that regard even if one doesn't like the aesthetics of the design.
So size and power matter, but they're far from the only things that matter when it comes to engineering.
the ps5 emphasive on spreading out the conponent for better heat dissapation. if you notice the board arent that big but the shroud/heatsink and case which makes it huuuge. ps5 uses centrifugal fan.
where as the xsx is engineered to isolate the board that generates heats and the board that dont generate much heat. what that, that can slam a heat sink to cover just the hot side and the other compartment is fine without heatsink. xsx uses axial fan.
im curious how much heat both of them will generate.
where as the xsx is engineered to isolate the board that generates heats and the board that dont generate much heat. what that, that can slam a heat sink to cover just the hot side and the other compartment is fine without heatsink. xsx uses axial fan.
im curious how much heat both of them will generate.
Apple always knock it out of the park with their hardware, man. Their new Mac Pro is an engineering masterpiece. Hell, the iPhones, new iPad Pros, Apple Watches... They're just great looking, and well built devices.
Fun fact Steve Jobs modeled a lot about what Apple is based on Sony. Jobs loved him some Sony.
do we know if there are extra plate designs coming? I assume bootleg ones will exist like on 360...
You bet there are people on CAD software trying to get the jump on manufacturing deals to have these available on Amazon day one. They seem simple and cheap enough to make.
I mentioned on the other thread, but I can't wait to buy extra ones and have them coated in black automotive paint and clear coated. It will look spectacular.
Anyone have the video of the Xbox Series X teardown? If available
I really enjoyed the PS5 teardown, it's the first sony console I've been impressed by in terms of their use of high quality components and techniques you typically only see on really high end PC builds. They're pulling out all the stops. Which makes me wonder what the hell Xbox did to manage that package.
I really enjoyed the PS5 teardown, it's the first sony console I've been impressed by in terms of their use of high quality components and techniques you typically only see on really high end PC builds. They're pulling out all the stops. Which makes me wonder what the hell Xbox did to manage that package.
Did he really? That is very interesting. Thanks for that little bit of trivia, man!
That's a really good point, didn't even consider that. That definitely would be a baddd idea.
we wont really know exactly which is best until we see them preform, under load, on next gen titles that stress the internals.
lets get those HZD map menu's up and running
lets get those HZD map menu's up and running
Yeah pretty crazy. He was super close to actually wanting to have vaio with macOS
Steve Jobs inspired some Sony products, and Sony inspired him - KitGuru
Although Steve Jobs always wanted to build his own universe around Apple and its products, he carefu
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I think I'm interpreting your post correctly but if I am wrong I'm sorry.I'm going to buy both consoles and I'm excited for this next gen. Saying that the part of the Series X I can't stop thinking about is how the one fan at the top is 60 - 70% blocked by the PSU and central mounting plate then the vents at the bottom by the disc drive and central plate. The one item which definitely needs airflow, the heat sink, is restricted to the edge of the vents on the bottom and a sliver of the fan at the top.
The fan at the top is exhaust, not intake, the idea is that air is pulled in at the bottom and pulled through and exhausted out the top. The aluminum heatsink is set so the heat rises toward the fan and is pulled out.
think of it like a funnel, the cooler ambient air is pulled into the bottom and up through the case, because of the lower internal pressure from the exhaust pushing air out the top.
4 the collectors. Hopefully Sony allows third party to sell plates with their game artwork on. 360 plates were a amazing idea back in the day.
These were fantastic to customize your 360 back in the day.
Yep, agreed!
Personally I like the power and size of the xbox with the split motherboard but I also like the look of the ps5 liquid metal paste and the giant blower fan looks interesting too.
i dunno, in the long run we'll have to wait and see how the noise and thermal designs of these consoles work out
but i would say that i have more confidence in PS5's design at this point. it's an iteration on a tried and true console layout that's known to work. sure, it's big, but i'd rather have a big console with no thermal issues than a small one with thermal issues.
series x is very impressive if it manages to sustain good thermal performance in the long run but the only real reference point for its split motherboard single intake thermal design is the trashcan Mac Pro, which had component failure issues in the long run. hopefully Xbox has managed to work that out and the solution does look better than Apple's, but the early reports of it running hot have me a bit concerned.
we will see!
but i would say that i have more confidence in PS5's design at this point. it's an iteration on a tried and true console layout that's known to work. sure, it's big, but i'd rather have a big console with no thermal issues than a small one with thermal issues.
series x is very impressive if it manages to sustain good thermal performance in the long run but the only real reference point for its split motherboard single intake thermal design is the trashcan Mac Pro, which had component failure issues in the long run. hopefully Xbox has managed to work that out and the solution does look better than Apple's, but the early reports of it running hot have me a bit concerned.
we will see!
If you accidentally sit the PS5 upright - upside down, is the middle section heavy enough to make the two sides slide upward and possibly off?
Or is it screwed on as well as clipped?
You have to lift one of the corners so it can slide.
If you accidentally sit the PS5 upright - upside down, is the middle section heavy enough to make the two sides slide upward and possibly off?
They slide in the other direction, so i don't think so
If you accidentally sit the PS5 upright - upside down, is the middle section heavy enough to make the two sides slide upward and possibly off?
I honestly don't think a lot of people fully comprehend how big that PS5 is, there are going to be a lot of shocked people come November 11th when they pull that thing out of the box.
I really feel like that PS5 design is going to join the ranks of OG Xbox one and OG PS3 as a console that people do not look back on fondly of in regards to design.
I really feel like that PS5 design is going to join the ranks of OG Xbox one and OG PS3 as a console that people do not look back on fondly of in regards to design.
He is comparing apple to oranges. The SSD alone in the PS5 by being faster generates more heat to dissipate, which means more space.
A more comparative picture might have the entire xbox enclosure disassembled into individual pieces like the ps5.
I am unreasonably pleased at the tetris of the xbox series x lol. Hopefully it is easy to maintain or at least doesn't need much maintenance.
My only complaint about it right now are 1, how much the SSD sticks out the back. Just bugs me. And 2 I hate the pads on the side. Completely destroys the look. And if you lay it on its side, it looks bad with the stand on the side since you can't remove it. Feels like there is no good position. The strength of the design was in the monolithic, straight forward, bold look. That's ruined by the pads.
I also really like how well considered the the PS5 seems to be. So many user friendly considerations, and the headsink is massive. Both console's fans look massive, which I'm really happy about. I would complain about the size but I will take a two foot tall console if I need to to get it quiet.
Looking at the board of the PS5, I am pretty damn annoyed that the SSD is 825GB. Would it really have killed them to include another 275GB module? There is plenty of space and it looks like they very easily could have rearranged to make there be. At least expandability happens inside the console. I really prefer my expandable storage internal.
My only complaint about it right now are 1, how much the SSD sticks out the back. Just bugs me. And 2 I hate the pads on the side. Completely destroys the look. And if you lay it on its side, it looks bad with the stand on the side since you can't remove it. Feels like there is no good position. The strength of the design was in the monolithic, straight forward, bold look. That's ruined by the pads.
I also really like how well considered the the PS5 seems to be. So many user friendly considerations, and the headsink is massive. Both console's fans look massive, which I'm really happy about. I would complain about the size but I will take a two foot tall console if I need to to get it quiet.
Looking at the board of the PS5, I am pretty damn annoyed that the SSD is 825GB. Would it really have killed them to include another 275GB module? There is plenty of space and it looks like they very easily could have rearranged to make there be. At least expandability happens inside the console. I really prefer my expandable storage internal.
I'm going to have to paint my PS5 plates the slickest black I can find. The XSX sure does seem like an engineering marvel though, what a compact design. I can't wait for reviews on noise for both.
Yes, it's confirmed that Series X is smaller by a large margin.
This right here. For all Sony got right on the inside the fact that it is so massive is just ridiculous.
I have no idea how you can say the PS5 matches Criteria #5 and Criteria #10 lol. It just doesn't. You could argue some of the others as well but some of those are more to taste.
Over the years I have often thought that the engineering that goes into the Playstation consoles has always been more intricate and well thought out. One could argue there is brilliance in the simplicity of the construction of the Xbox builds but i do find the Playstation builds more interesting to examine.
From what I seen from both consoles, it looks like the PlayStation 5 is going to be a modders dream machine. Can't wait to see the custom outside plastic designs as well as the RGB fan lights from the replaced 120 mm fan being integrated into a custom-made outside case design.
Xbox looks like it's built for entertainment system. I like that both console makers have different ways of approaching the overheating issues that customers have complained in the past about.
Xbox looks like it's built for entertainment system. I like that both console makers have different ways of approaching the overheating issues that customers have complained in the past about.
I'd like to see the actual volume of both consoles because i'm sure the XsX isn't half teh volume of the PS5. Looking at the PS5 teardown with the panels off it seems like the panels add alot to the size.
The sizes of both consoles can also be explained by die choice in die size. MS went with a bigger more expensive die with alot more CUs. They're going slow and wide. Meanwhile Sony went with a smaller and cheaper die with less CUs but ran it at higher freu
They ended up at 825 because of the amount of channels used. The next step would have been double the size and not 1TB.
More like a cheap buffet vs a well made banquet
you decide which is which
If it wasn't for the gigantic size I would have preferred the PS5.
As it is, both of these consoles have stupid dimensions.
As it is, both of these consoles have stupid dimensions.
