It's just a matter of time....if netflix can go up, anything can go up.
They are making it this cheap for now to drive adoption. No way the current price is gonna stay for long.
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XBOX's CFO on next-gen pricing: ''we’ll announce in due time'' ; States price stalling and high development costs as main points for possible changes.
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It's just a matter of time....if netflix can go up, anything can go up.
They are making it this cheap for now to drive adoption. No way the current price is gonna stay for long.
Won't matter since first party gets a gamepass discount it's a wash if they do and a discount if they do....either way gamers win.
"People are demanding AAA+ experiences and cricticize the tiniest of flaws but IT ISN'T ON THE CONSUMER."
ok
I'm just not acting like everything below a AAAA Cyberpunk level experience is treated like "Euro jank".
Is the mass majority of the gaming community really demanding that from every gaming experience? I'll staunchly challenge that idea.
Fun still matters.
i expect it to shoot up to like $30/month sooner or later. and i don't think it's a bad price if their studios are putting out a new game a month by that point.
Fun and a AAAA experience aren't mutually exclusive. And I never said that the gaming community is demanding this from every gaming experience. But. Again. You'd be willfully ignorant to claim that it isn't a driving force in terms of what gamers look for in a next-generation gaming experience.
We, as gamers, cannot absolve ourselves from our role in gaming as it moves forwards.
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One thing I don't really understand though, it seems like there's no point to actually buying first party games on Xbox....why wouldn't you just get GamePass? The price of 2 games cover you for a year.
What I mean by that is, games without these huge budgets still become hits and make money off of the back of enjoyment, so lets not act like the AAAA grindhouse model is a victim of the consumer and there is no other choice. They choose to shoot those shots.
None of it excuses higher game prices, especially given the working standard in the industry.
Guess they have the benefit of waiting a while longer to announce it. Not like it makes a huge difference either way.
This more the exception than the rule. And again, you continue to act as if gamers aren't demanding and wanting AAAA games with pretty shiny graphics, ray-tracing, super-fast load times. Come on. Stop with that nonsense and stop acting as if gamers' expectations and demands have no influence.
Like, at this point it's absurd at this point to pretend otherwise. Gaming entitlement is nothing new.
Yeah, games were £39.99 and now they are £54.99 with some moving toward £59.99 and £64.99.
Raise your prices in NA if you must but look at your prices elsewhere, £64.99 for a video game is a fucking joke.
MS is in an interesting position re: first-party pricing.
It's third-party publisher partners will likely pressure them to move to $70. But I don't think PC AAA is making a similar move to $70. And since Xbox is trying to play in both the console and PC spaces simultaneously it would be weird for Gears 6 to be $70 on console but $60 on PC.
It's third-party publisher partners will likely pressure them to move to $70. But I don't think PC AAA is making a similar move to $70. And since Xbox is trying to play in both the console and PC spaces simultaneously it would be weird for Gears 6 to be $70 on console but $60 on PC.
Yeah, if anything Microsoft should just announced $70 first party games to just more incentivize GamePass since that seems to be their biggest priority right now, lol. Not sure why they're not announcing anything like the rest of the industry.
Consumers spend more money on AAA games, or GAAS titles. Publishers and developer tend to follow the money.
If Microsoft didn't charge for online I would have given them a pass since their business isn't seeing that much growth when compared to the rest of the industry and certainly not when compared to their competitors. But they do so to me increasing game price along with MTXs and paid online is just one more way to milk you customers. But it can't be denied dev costs are rising if you want to use all of that fancy tech the hardware team crammed into that box.
Nah. Sure they won't sell many copies due to game pass (especially on console), but lots of people still prefer to buy games.
Then there is putting all the games on Steam, and MS games have been selling very well on there lately.
Yup, look at how Star Wars Squadrons has done for EA. Plus you've got games like Among Us that are wildly successful. I really think we're at a point where graphics aren't so important anymore. As long as a game looks competent visually most people won't even care. Make a B-tier game and if it's good people will buy it. A $50 budget Banjo Kazooie game would do fine.
It's actually more like 3 years of Game Pass for the price of 2 games if you use the gold upgrade and the free months from auto-renew
Like the others who haven't raised them yet, they are just waiting to see if Activision, Sony and Take-Two/2K get away with it. Expected really.
I think you see game price go up before Game Pass. I think they will want to get everyone they can into their ecosystem beforehand.
Fuck I hate how CFO's talk. " want to make sure you're driving the right gross margin profiles, the right earnings profiles of what it takes to build these new, awesome, amazing games "
Maybe, I just hope consumes will say "fuck that" and start buying more second hand (They won't, because they've proven to be happy to be nickel and dimed)
Unfortunately those 3 know they have the I.P to force it through and I'm fully expecting the rest to jump onboard sooner, rather than later. Though was nice seeing Assassin's Creed beating CoD to number 1 on the UK's physical game charts, but CoD still broke Acti's records for digital sales, so ultimately meaningless, but still nice.
No, why cut off sales unnecessarily? This would eliminate every consumer who buys physical games.
Lmao.
The vast majority of cross gen stuff stayed $60. Most publishers reserved $70 to next gen only games.
When you don't have a major first party exclusive you have that luxury.
89.99 incoming
/s hrug
A little confused considering we are already in the next-gen and they are already charging 69
/s hrug
A little confused considering we are already in the next-gen and they are already charging 69
I don't know why they're playing like we don't know they're going to charge $70. This is the company that decided to charge us to use our own internet service to play games.
Very that.
In the past I've said I've understood why they do it. But doesn't necessarily I agree. Especially when they are still making a profit
yup
I mean, if everyone else is charging $10 more it's not hurting their sales, you'd be stupid not to
Why do people always say that Gamepass regular is going to jump to $15?
I cant think of any subscription where the price suddenly jumps 50% more per month. If Gamepass increase in price it'll be by a dollar or two each time not a 50% in price.
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And for every Among Us, there are several thousand games released every year with a similar scale and budget on PC, Mobile and console which achieve no level of success. If you think I'm exaggerating, on Steam about ~8000 games release every year, and even ignoring obvious asset flips and AAA stuff that leaves thousands of legitimate indie games.
"Just have an amazing idea, execute it well, and then get it noticed" < Much easier said than done.
You're right it would be business suicide to increase too quickly. A dollar (or pound for me) or two a year for a few years will be more than acceptable one we start seeing first party games constantly.
Microsoft has been using console prices on PC since 2013 or so. Just folks in US haven't noticed because they've been the same, but in rest of world, console games tend to be more expensive.