My only question is are they blindly trolling because they know fans are frustrated by the lack of information from Sony or do they genuinely know something is amiss at Sony and are capitalizing on it.
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Xbox Series X: What You Can Expect From the Next Generation of Gaming (12TF, RDNA2 & Zen 2, Hardware Raytracing, Variable Rate Shading) OFFICIAL SPECS
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My only question is are they blindly trolling because they know fans are frustrated by the lack of information from Sony or do they genuinely know something is amiss at Sony and are capitalizing on it.
Yup, i think most developers will go for native4k30 but take physics and graphics to the max with some. You cant really sell extra frames, but prettier environments and more destruction and better AI can.
Still hope that there will be many exceptions and that we'll see 4k60 games as well.
I tell you , with these specs, a great new Halo, game pass and keep it under £500 and they will be in a great place .
If they reveal a new fable as well I'll explode with joy
If they reveal a new fable as well I'll explode with joy
Seems like they are going with a feature I wanted most, forward compatibility. I really really hope Sony goes that route too. It would make the cross gen games that would be out in day September better. It's be cool to get them and have the ability to play. Obviously you could wait too but it definitely makes adopting the console early more enticing. Especially if games that are out earlier in the year work that way. Even if it's just frame rate boosts and stuff
It sounded to me like they knew fans wanted more information and are taking advantage of Sony's silence.
Xbox has been doing so much the last couple of years to put themselves in a great spot to launch this console.
The more we learn about it, the more excited I get to dive in day 1.
The more we learn about it, the more excited I get to dive in day 1.
That would look like Sony is reactive. They will most likely wait now to let the news cycle pass.
I cant believe how many times your post was quoted and people misconstrued your point.
Honestly think the reason Sony are so quiet is because they know it will be hard to compete with the power message which Microsoft have delivered so far.
When the PS3 and PS4 were unveiled they pushed heavily on the power aspect but now they're going to have to win out with software - just as they did in the PS2 days. Even then though, they really pushed out how the PS2 was the most powerful console ever etc in the run up to release.
I've always bought the Nintendo console and the Sony console on offer but Microsoft are making me think about going Switch/Series X. XCloud/GamePass on Switch would seal the deal.
When the PS3 and PS4 were unveiled they pushed heavily on the power aspect but now they're going to have to win out with software - just as they did in the PS2 days. Even then though, they really pushed out how the PS2 was the most powerful console ever etc in the run up to release.
I've always bought the Nintendo console and the Sony console on offer but Microsoft are making me think about going Switch/Series X. XCloud/GamePass on Switch would seal the deal.
Is there any chance that Sony could/would revise the system to match or exceed this level of power, should the rumors of a weaker system be true? I know they were openly saying they were waiting on competitors for pricing, but are we too far along to change specs at this point? I genuinely have no idea how it all works.
I really really hope PS5 isn't 12gb ram.2 years ago maybe
But last January we had this
And I remember it being laughed out of the room, it might be the earliest leak of valuable information I can remember. Crazy if it ends up being true
Really loving what I'm seeing from the Series X. Seems beefy, backwards compatible, forwards compatible, controller compatibility, the ability to stream through XCloud to your phone/tablet, Game Pass meaning day 1 there's a shit ton of games to play, etc.
I think the only feature I'm waiting on is "your current apps from Xbox One will all work day 1 for Series X." So much of my console is used for things like Netflix, DAZN (NFL viewing), NHL app, screen mirroring, etc. that it'd suck to have to wait months for devs to get new versions out.
I think the only feature I'm waiting on is "your current apps from Xbox One will all work day 1 for Series X." So much of my console is used for things like Netflix, DAZN (NFL viewing), NHL app, screen mirroring, etc. that it'd suck to have to wait months for devs to get new versions out.
are you in finance? that's not true at all - shareholders invest in companies that lose cash "for good reasons" every day
i think they are looking for 9 years of sweet, sweet recurring sub revenue now
Expect Sony PR to be proprietary proprietary proprietary proprietary proprietary oh and more proprietary tech. Basically it let's them talk up buzz words on stuff that may or may not be able to be measured or directly compared with XSX.
I say $599 and they can get away with it because they'll have a more affordable option for those who don't want all the high-end stuff like 120fps support.
Also, keep in mind that, though the PS5 may be weaker overall than the Series X, it will have the advantage of having games developed exclusively for it. Sony's first-party stuff could look better just by not having to worry about running on older hardware.
Also, keep in mind that, though the PS5 may be weaker overall than the Series X, it will have the advantage of having games developed exclusively for it. Sony's first-party stuff could look better just by not having to worry about running on older hardware.
Oh ok. I'll still be in for the exclusives. Could be a pricey new gen so Gamestop needs to stay around and offer me a good trade in for my current systems, lol.
This shouldn't come as a surprise to Sony.
They must have expected MS to go all out.
I think they are willing to throw some money at it - but they'll be throwing it at Game Pass. Seems to me that's their play. High end console with some margins for the hardcore, low end for volume, PC for the rest. As long as everyone subs to game pass they won't care which platform you buy
The best selling games of this gen aren't the best lookers. Was true last gen and true of the ps2 generation as well.
Some of the best lookers on ps4 come from studios gone or who didn't earn all that much both driveclub and the order suffered similar fates.
Graphics help some sales but since the ps2 gen if a game doesn't have a good hook behind it consumers don't give a fuck if it looks good. They also aren't the best sellers.
You can sell extra frames but only when your consumers care say something like fighters or cod.
I honestly had no interest in a Series X but given the insane specs and feature set of this machine...I'm extremely tempted. It's going to come down to how revolutionary Halo Infinite ends up being. If it's the grand return to form for Halo that we all expect, I may be there day one.
Yes some companies do depending on their product portfolio. However how much money would MS shareholders want to lose on a product that is a minuscule amount of their overall revenue?
They had that for 15 years already AND those subs are currently subsidised.
Services, services, services. Recurring revenue is the new oil. They can afford a massive initial loss with the push towards services over the last 3 years. XBL Gold + Gamepass + Xcloud = massive revenue opportunities over the course of the lifetime of the console.
Bethesda gave Skyrim's Special Edition for free to PC gamers that owned Oldrim, and XSX is little different from a PC now.
I mean, people managed to put The Witcher 3 on Switch. I don't know why anyone would think it's impossible for Microsoft to make next gen games just because they'll create jaguar version of the games too.
Glad to see Microsoft being competitive. This will only make Sony be more competitive for the PS5.
As a future PS5 owner, this is a good thing.
As a future PS5 owner, this is a good thing.
I agree. I think even with the 2:1 overall Ps4 has even bigger edge on Xbone but anyway, no console will ever cost $599 again
Yeah, was thinking the same thing. Probably gonna tout their ssd solution and stuff like that. Still I'd be willing to bet the 12TF number will continue to dominate the news cycles even if sony doesn't reveal anything beforehand. Only question is would they wait till shortly before launch to drop the bomb and have the negative news of being 30% slower then or get it out of the way early and try to mitigate the damage with their exclusives.
Of course purely hypothetical since we have no idea if the rumors of 9.2 are actually true and PS5 might still be even faster than xsx, inb4 people start throwing stones at me - eventhough I think their current silence points to them actually being slower...
Xbox One was the first major console I completely skipped. Here's hoping MGS bring it this time around.
Sure you can sell extra frames, but better looking graphics, more advanced AI, destructible environment where the framerate doesnt tank to sub20fps.
Dont forget that most tv's on the market, and coming to market are still having a HDMI 2.0 port so the max is 1440p @120 if the screen is even capable of 120hz. Im sorry but i just dont see developers massively catering to a minority, i think for most people 60fps is enough.
Ps4pro and xb1x where also capable of 4k60 output(hdmi2.0 port), but almost no game actually outputted at native 4k60
I don't understand what this is. They guarantee we get the best version to play? Isn't that a given?
Even if it's expensive - if it's a lot above ps5 it's worth it just as a gamepass machine. You'd get great value never buying a single game for it
XsX or X1X are moderately differently from contemporary pcs of similar specs. pcs don't enjoy a debloated windows kernel optimized for gaming and that has offloading features. Credit should be given where credit is due.
MS actually is doing a lot for mid range gamers who want that performance range without the hassle of of a pc. You get more bang for your buck as well as result of them negotiating prices someone like me can't.
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