Almost.
Any One SKU will play on the SX.
If a game is Smart Delivery enabled, buying a One SKU will also get you the SX SKU, and vice versa.
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Xbox Series X: What You Can Expect From the Next Generation of Gaming (12TF, RDNA2 & Zen 2, Hardware Raytracing, Variable Rate Shading) OFFICIAL SPECS
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Any One SKU will play on the SX.
If a game is Smart Delivery enabled, buying a One SKU will also get you the SX SKU, and vice versa.
Come on now. People were speculating hybrid solutions. Not full on RDNA 2.
RT did not automatically mean RDNA 2.
more like rdna 1.5. something like that happend with the 360. ms was using tech not in for sale radon cards at release.
You're the one ignoring the flood of posts here using the 9.7 TF RX5700 XT as a comparison point.
Its just marketing talk for a standard feature in all digital stores. Buy a game on Steam, it is smart enough to know what hardware you are on and to send you the correct bits.
Because the X1X is 6TF and the Series X is 12TF. It is much better to straight up use the numbers and let them speak than to claim something the numbers don't support.
Sure, RDNA2 is more efficient than GCN and 12TF of the first is probably more than 2x as powerful as 6TF of the latter, but your average consumer isn't going to know that. They're going to see 6 and 12 and double. If he said more than double or 3x then the average consumer would be dubious because they see 6 and 12 and wonder how the hell this guy got 3x the power.
It's the system to allow games to show up as a single SKU for both Xbox One and Series X rather than listing the games separately. Buy once on either platform, play on either platform with the version of the game intended for the console you're on rather than just a BC version on Series X.
people seem really confused by the smart delivery thing. I wonder if giving a marketing name to "enhancement patches" has just made people over think it
It might be a standard feature for Steam, but it is anything but standard for console generations.
I'll be getting a Series X this generation after completely skipping this generation.
Microsoft has me.
Microsoft has me.
I was just trying to understand. Cross-buy is awesome. And cross-gen cross-buy is even better.
It's just that some people said it was not cross-buy so I got confused.
no they were waiting for the price more then the spece since they are close
wait.. the Zen 2, 8 core 16 thread CPU is 4 times more powerful that the Jaguar 8 core 8 thread 1,75 Ghz CPU?
edit: DF suspected around 7 times faster CPU boost
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"All this power" can be used for other things than FPS. Most devs will still prefer good looking at high resolution over 60FPS.
Also Team 499. 599 and this will tank sales (or there will be smaller version for mass appeal).
RT is Russia Today
Putin gonna beam propaganda directly into Halo Infinite and we're just letting him get away with it smh
It's Ray Tracing, a graphics feature that all the kids love these days. Makes nice lighting.
My son just started university and for the start of his second year (September 2020) he wants a cheap Xbox and monitor. Nice excuse to let him have my 1S and leave a xsx shaped hole in my living room :)
I am not 100% in, but yeah I was pc this gen, might jump back in. that depends on devs though, if they give 60fps as atleast a option I would be garenteed in.
Console hardware has usually been wildly different between gens and digital has only been around for the past two. Anyway, both Microsoft and Sony have been doing this with different hardware skus in the base and pro models for years already. So for them to continue that approach is just expected, especially when the hardware is so similar.
Also now we know how they got the idea for the form factor !!
LOL
I mean yeah, there are also people still asking what RT is, this is an enthusiast forum but not a tech savvy one, as weird as it sounds.
"Four generations of gaming: Our commitment to compatibility means existing Xbox One games, including backward-compatible Xbox 360 and original Xbox games, look and play better than ever before. Your favorite games, including titles in Xbox Game Pass, benefit from steadier framerates, faster load times and improved resolution and visual fidelity – all with no developer work required. Your Xbox One gaming accessories also come forward with you."
This and "Smart Delivery" are awesome and push console gaming in the right direction. If Sony doesn't implement enhanced BC for PS5 I'll skip it and hold out for the next PlayStation that does. No more excuses.
This and "Smart Delivery" are awesome and push console gaming in the right direction. If Sony doesn't implement enhanced BC for PS5 I'll skip it and hold out for the next PlayStation that does. No more excuses.
So when you think about the cost of a new console... those exclusives always push it beyond the base price of the unit. Now with Gamepass.. lets say MS has 3 exclusives at launch. New Forza, Halo Infinite and another one. Those are just... there and included along with a couple hundred other games. This is totally new territory and while third party next gen games most likely will cost (MS should throw money at UBI to put the next AC in gamepass for a few months at lanuch) the price to entry will never be lower for those that have gamepass....
Gonna be a crazy year... love that all my equipment will move forward... love that this thing is gonna be a beast.. lets go next gen!
Gonna be a crazy year... love that all my equipment will move forward... love that this thing is gonna be a beast.. lets go next gen!
nah - Sony have been early in spec stuff and have shown they prefer to be late on price reveal. They won't want to be second to talk about TF - they'll need another angle I think. Also if they're 9-10TF they may not even talk numbers
that's not true at all, buy PS3 GTA5 you don't get PS4 GTA5 for free
PS5 has enhanced BC and its own version of Smart Delivery.
And who engineers these hybrid versions and for what reason?
Why would they use old tech and actually invest extra money to get that old tech?
RDNA 2 was always the logical option.
Might just do that too if 60+fps is a reality on a majority of titles
Evcen at 499+, the value proposition is crazy
But I'm pretty sure it's gonna be another 30fps gen for the most part
Yes. Zen2 architecture is vastly better than Jaguars. Cores and threads aren't a flat rate. 1 core / thread of Jaguar wont equal 1 core / thread of Zen2. It isnt the same CPU, but i just very recently upgraded my PC CPU from an old FX8350, which had 8 Cores and 16 Threads, to a Zen2 6 Core 12 Thread, and the benchmarks blow my old CPU away
OMG thanks for this!🤣🤣🤣XSX = 12 TFLOPS
Well this all sounds fantastic, thing is a monster.
Hopefully publishers don't get super shitty and ignore the Smart Delivery stuff.
Hopefully publishers don't get super shitty and ignore the Smart Delivery stuff.
that 12tf number all but conferms a second box. they would only be using the upper end of usable chips with that number.
Next gen is going to be so damn good. Jumping in and out of games, fast loading, multiple suspended games. Fast powerful boxes and amazing games and overall user experience. Can't wait. I'm getting PS5 at launch but I have no qualms jumping back into Xbox some day, they have a compelling box here.
yep, and last I remember, they already lose money on consoles as is. They always recoup costs from software and subscriptions.
given that MS will have
project x cloud
Game pass
Xbox Gold
let's say they are 10 each, that's 30 a month, 360 a year, within two years of any user having all three of those, they recouped the cost of a console and then some.
obviously it won't be that straightforward, but the revenue stream exemplified here suggests that they could totally take that loss and by playing the long con will generate much more revenue in the end.
there's a thousand different factors not considered here, but you can imagine just how much they could be making and if this undercutting is actually possible.
An absolutely incredible machine.
I don't see how it could possibly be $499.99 without Xbox taking a significant hit on each unit. Which doesn't mean it can't be $499.99, but I'm not sure they want it that much. If they do somehow do it, it would be one of the best value deals in video game history.
I'm expecting $599.99, however.
I don't see how it could possibly be $499.99 without Xbox taking a significant hit on each unit. Which doesn't mean it can't be $499.99, but I'm not sure they want it that much. If they do somehow do it, it would be one of the best value deals in video game history.
I'm expecting $599.99, however.
well yeah it hasn't been standard since the pro upgrades on consoles. Its the way it will be going forward though. Basically just talking about this is a standard feature on PC stores.
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