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Xbox Series X: What You Can Expect From the Next Generation of Gaming (12TF, RDNA2 & Zen 2, Hardware Raytracing, Variable Rate Shading) OFFICIAL SPECS
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The fact MS came out with this detail suggests to me that they are indeed clearing the decks for an event soon. They want to get a lot of the specs stuff out there so when it comes to an event they can go in hard on games.
It could, of course, also mean they they aren't even going to have an event. Just a 10 minute segment at the start of their E3 briefing showing the box, then straight into games.
Selfishly, I do hope they hold a separate event, just because I hope it'd be sooner than June and, well, 2 events are better than one.
It could, of course, also mean they they aren't even going to have an event. Just a 10 minute segment at the start of their E3 briefing showing the box, then straight into games.
Selfishly, I do hope they hold a separate event, just because I hope it'd be sooner than June and, well, 2 events are better than one.
It might be straight RDNA2, but technically you could read 'leveraging' as being correct even if they cherry pick some features from RDNA2 and backport to a RDNA1 GPU. But eg if RT is unique to RDNA2 then it is probably simpler for them to just take that architecture wholesale
Confirmed 12tf RDNA2 and not just speculation
Not having to rebuy the same games for Next Gen
RTX 2080 levels of power or even more possibly
It's a standard backend framework, but yes, publishers have to chose to use it. They can still sell separate SKUs if they want.
Yea I forgot to mention that bit. Hopefully most 3rd party devs will use it though, but I can see EA and others not doing so.
"enabling developers to leverage 12 TF of GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) performance, twice that of an Xbox One X and more than eight times the original Xbox One" is the exact quote. I think he's saying it's equivalent to what a 12 TF X1X-GPU would be. It's a brilliantly phrased sentence to maximize the marketing effect, but it's not an actual 12 TF RDNA 2 GPU.
Actually it is news because the 12 tflops number was from rumors and not from ms directly. Also the fact that the GPU is rdna 2 is also news despite how a lot of people including myself thought it was going to be rdna 1. So comparing it to the 5700 xt in term of performance, we should see at least rtx 2080 level of performance from it on non raytracing titles. We still don't know how robust their Ray tracing pipeline is but I can comfortably assume it's no where near what nvidia has in their Turing gpus.
It sounds like they're just talking about 1st party exclusives and it's up to 3rd party developers to implement that into their games. I imagine EA will make you buy multiple versions of games.
I really doubt Microsoft will take a big loss on Xbox Series X, because its price isn't important. Xbox Series X is for gamers who don't care about the price, but who want the best console available at any price.
The main console for Microsoft will be the Xbox Series S. Xbox Series X is their flagship console.
$499 or I'll eat my shoes.
Also, going to be amusing watching developers churn out 30 FPS titles all generation with all of this power available. Ubisoft in particular, I'd imagine.
Also, going to be amusing watching developers churn out 30 FPS titles all generation with all of this power available. Ubisoft in particular, I'd imagine.
Are you just being ridiculous at this point going through some massive mental gymnastics to say rubbish.
I posted in the next gen thread but I'll say it here too, I'll gladly pay $500 for this console lol...what a beast.
I really don't think it'll be $599, that just reads death to anyone that really isn't plugged in to specs, flops, etc.
I hope and think they'll go $499, probably throw in 3 or 6 months of Gamepass with it too.
I really don't think it'll be $599, that just reads death to anyone that really isn't plugged in to specs, flops, etc.
I hope and think they'll go $499, probably throw in 3 or 6 months of Gamepass with it too.
Explain to me how the 'main console' is the one that hasn't been announced yet?
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Xbox Series X is our most powerful console ever powered by our custom designed processor leveraging AMD's latest Zen 2 and RDNA 2 architectures. Delivering four times the processing power of an Xbox One and enabling developers to leverage 12 TFLOPS of GPU (Graphics Processing Unit) performance – twice that of an Xbox One X and more than eight times the original Xbox One."
It's not marketing, it's factual. I have no idea what you're on about.
Yeah unfortunately.
With all that power 60fps should be the standard but I have no doubts it's not gonna be
so smart delivery is just marketing for backwards compatibility right for 1st party games? Or am I missing something?
We have no info on next gen AMD pc GPUs but it's better than anything available now from them
It's not launching for a dime more than $499. I could see $449 if they're feeling really aggressive and want to put Sony in a bind. Microsoft could take a loss on hardware for the life of the console, but Sony cannot. $499 for both consoles seems like the safe bet though.
Smart Delivery is marketing speak for backwards compatibility, correct? As long as the devs support it?
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Yes.
And it's a great thing.
They just put a name on it to market it but I don't know why you are put so much effort to downplay it.
Yes it's crossbuy with free enhancements and it's great.
RDNA2 is probably just 1 with VRR & RT, as we expected, there might be another surprise.
You're missing something. This is saying things like Last of Us Remastered on PS4 wont exist, they'll just be free updates
hmm guess I wasn't thinking there would be much of a difference between the ports outside of better framerate/resolution. Good feature then
Do it, SONYY!
Or they can casually reveal the design on instagram and break the internet again.
If a developer wants, they can create one SKU or their title across Xbox One and Xbox Series X. You can purchase the SKU and depending what system you are on, it will work as intended on that system. It's basically Play Anywhere in the sense that one purchase by you will net you a playable game on both systems.
for example, during the 360>Xbox One cross gen, you had to purchase seperate versions of the same game (such as Forza Horizon 2, Assassins Creed Black Flag) if you wanted to play it on 360 and Xbox One. Meaning double the money. Now, Ubisoft could choose to make Assassins Creed Next be one purchase between Xbox One and Xbox Series X. Will devs and pubs do this? Who knows...but MS is making it available to them if they want it.
Who has time for games when you're doing all those floating point operations. I just think it's interesting that people and Xbox marketing have locked onto FLOPS as their chosen measurement of performance.
Comparing this to the PS3 if it's priced at 599 is silly. This console is going to be on proven hardware with a ton of games and developer friendly from the start. There is incredible value and longevity that is obvious right now with the hardware. I still hope for 499 but I don't think the 599 possibility means DOA
This is the mentality we should have. last gen this would have been mind blowing since we were plagued with next gen ports. Now with the pro/X people are like isn't this like the pro/x patch? Which is a good thing, we shouldn't have pay twice for a game.
No exclusives as in no first party exclusives designed only for Series X/PC. Everything also has to work on an Xbox One because of Game Pass.
That's what I'd heard.
Jheeze, the XSX is looking like it could be my go to platform for multiplats and the PS5 would be an exclusive machine. But of course Sony has yet to announce all of their details.
This Autumn is going to have my wallet hurting.
This Autumn is going to have my wallet hurting.
WTF are you talking about. Teraflop number as a measurement isn't specific to Xbox.
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