It's a personal choice, nothing that set in stone as you propose. I'm going from PS4 to Xbox series X.
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It's a personal choice, nothing that set in stone as you propose. I'm going from PS4 to Xbox series X.
Yeah it's just a matter of psychology, there definitely is an aspect of buying a new item and seeing something new that reinforces the concept of something being new and exciting. I've literally felt both when upgrading iPhones in the past 😂, once I felt 'wow, well this sure feels the same' and another time where I was like 'thank goodness I don't have to think about anything and everything still works the same'.
There's no problem with either approach, ultimately the goal should always be to make something better, either through minor revisions or a wholesale revamp.
I mean, I don't obviously talk about every PS4 owner in the world doing as I'd say. Just saying that for a majority of PS4 users, specially those who have budget limit and/or only owns a PS4, don't have a lot of reasons to see an Xbox Series X as a typical PC upgrade, because PC upgrades don't involve not being able to enjoy the majority of your gaming library in your upgraded hardware.
Yeah I think Brad hadn't used his Xbox for a while but it still appears to be much breezier than it was before.
Reviews are about what I expected, great hardware cool features but no new games worth buying the system over. I decided last week to cancel my series x pre order and stick with the ps5 for the time being due to the lack of new titles I want to play on the series X side of things. Personally don't care much for backwards compatibility on either system so it was never a big selling point for me. Ill probably check out the series x once it gets a steady flow of first party exclusives going though or when the next forza horizon comes out, whichever comes first.
It's your opinion. By definition it's not "objective". You realize that right?
You can choose to drive nails into a board with the butt end of a screwdriver, but a hammer is still a better tool for the job.
Eh. PS5 has one true exclusive at launch. Which happens to be a remake of a PS3 game. They have more games timed to the release of the PS5, but most of them are cross-gen titles.
It is better than Xbox's situation, no doubt, but it's not crazy strong either. I'm excited for Miles Morales, but I'll be playing it on PS4 Pro.
Godfall being on PC is immaterial. Every Xbox first party game is going to be on PC as well. Will the console never be worth it at all then? Console and PC audiences are different.
Anyways I guess we can just agree to disagree
Next gen excitement aside, there certainly is value in upgrading not for a couple great looking next gen launch titles, but for the quality of life and performance improvements to dozens games you still play regularly.
I am still thinking of grabbing WD Legion though, looks like a proper next gen showcase at least.
I am still thinking of grabbing WD Legion though, looks like a proper next gen showcase at least.
Astro Bot is an exclusive and bundled game that's supposedly excellent.
I don't know, to me it seems like it's semantics. When it comes to next gen titles, I am most excited about Miles Morales, Demon's Souls - and even Sackboy. I consider these exclusives, the fact that people can play them on older consoles is great. But it doesn't change the fact that these are new games - not enhanced versions of games I already played.
Sure, you could say - well, 3rd party games are just like that - but the fact is, most of these games are not yet next-gen. Valhalla is getting a next gen update later this year. Cyberpunk is getting it next year. Miles Morales is coming out as a next-gen title now, with all the bells and whistles, DualSense support, etc. That's what I mean.
Again, I don't want to ruin anyone's fun - Xbox really seems awesome and I'm sure people will enjoy it a lot. But the launch situation is just not the same, whether you call the new Spider-Man exclusive or not.
On the xbox, you're right. It's literally on tetris effect connected, which isn't demon souls (which looks incredible) or even astrobot. That's two games. But just because something is on old hardware, doesn't mean it's value as a game gains nothing. Battlefield 4 was the thing I played the most on PS4 at launch and I found that to be a transformative use of the hardware at the time.
The point is, even cross gen titles are releasing at the same time as the console. They are new titles, like BoTW was for Switch or what Halo should have been for Xbox (And you forgot Godfall).
So it makes a big launch line up for PS5, even if some of those titles are releasing on PS4.
Per your second point Valhalla is next gen because it loads much faster on the new consoles and plays much better due to the massive CPU upgrade, the two biggest "bells and whistles". The only thing Morales has that those 3rd party games don't is DualSense, which probably is indicative of how DualSense will be treated by 3rd parties in the long run, if HD Rumble on switch or Rumble Triggers on Xbox are any indication.
Definitely. I'm looking forward to playing the possible best versions of the games I have/want, quick resume, and the reduced loading speeds. I'm disappointed there isn't a stellar Halo Infinite at launch, and was considering not getting the SX right away, but I doubt it's going to be any cheaper when Halo does launch anyway.
Why is Valhalla officially getting a next gen patch later this year then?
yeah, but by comparison, your competition is kicking down the gate really strong with some impressive, NEW titles. Even if some
Of them are on ps4 as well. By that comparison,
Microsoft looks worse here.
Did I imply otherwise? MS got the edge too in hardware and the insane game pass value.
We could go on and on why X is better or worse than Y but whatever you pick next week, you won't be disappointed.
I can't find anything about a next gen patch? Everything is talking about November 10th upgrades.
EDIT: From what I see, all Next Gen Ubi upgrades are a day one thing on Xbox Series and PS5.
Steam's August 2020 Hardware Survey is out and most still use GTX 10 Series cards
We don't often cover Steam hardware stats, but average user specs can be interesting, and let's just say the August 2020 survey shows RTX off.www.pcinvasion.com
People are still rocking quad core cpus @1080p. Just a quick google search.
Why MS made the Series S and why Tom's point about X makes sense imo. If you can't afford a shiny new PC in a global pandemic especially at the power this thing packs compared to what you get for $500, it's hard to beat honestly.
The same thing said by jschreier
But people keep linking the first two posts and ignore his third for console war BS.
Are you sure you are able to play the newest AC: Valhalla with an 760GTX? Valhalla minimum Specs state an 960GTX., Watch Dogs Legion has an 970GTX even. Point stands, even on 7 year old PCs you are not able to play the newest games.
I mean, except for the most pragmatic of concerns -- money. Could I afford to buy a PS5 and spend $90 - $100 (CAD) on new games? Sure, but then I'm spending more than the yearly subscription cost of Game Pass Ultimate (at least for the upgrade path) *for a single game*. I loaded up on 3 years of Xbox Live and did the game pass ultimate upgrade so I've locked in 3 years of a boatload of games for the price of 2 games on the PS5 (new). My plan is to wait for two things to get a PS5: 1) Slim (or Pro....) revision, and 2) PS5 games to hit greatest hits so they're a reasonable price.
I plan to build my own dual 18" subwoofers + new speakers (drivers from parts-express, build the enclosures myself) which I would consider *far more* worthwhile than blowing the money required to play PS exclusives day one. Will I want to play them eventually? You bet. There's no denying that Sony has amazing first party studios. I just don't really give a damn if I play it now or in 3-4 years, and I'd rather feed my woodworking hobby than spend more on gaming.
Also, I've *always* preferred the layout of Xbox controllers over Sony. I hate the location of the sticks on DS controllers.
I guess I was mistaken. Officially it says both XSX and PS5 upgrades will be free when the updates are available. And I read earlier that they plan them "this year" - but maybe it's at launch. Ok, then, yeah, my bad.
i never denied microsoft has better hardware, and no where did i say gamepass sucks. But as someone who has both systems pre ordered, im
More excited to boot up my ps5 for the first batch of games. Though my series x will be my go to fir third party titles because of the stronger hardware
No worries, all I'm getting at is the "Next Gen Exclusive" for both of these consoles, for me at least, is the performance. I am excited to play Demon's Souls though, for sure.
If fat weak ass Xbox One can manage somehow...
You can always play new games on PC but at what cost? That's my take.
But the point is that with consoles, right now the console you bought 7 years ago will play the same games.
Halo was a massive loss for launch. That aside, I am excited to be getting it (and ps5) at launch. The QoL changes, Gamepass and the fact that my 970 is starting to show its age makes this worth it. Come late 2021 early 2022 we will have a large drop of games coming out. All in due time.
It apparently is material to a huge number of the discussions here including any that venture into peoples comfort territory so adding it seemed an apt inclusioin
The PS4 UI is not "objectively" terrible.
It's your opinion, and that's "subjectively" or "imo".
Am I responding to scripts? I feel like the exact same thing was just said to me.
Reviews going as expected, XSX overall feels like rectifying the mistakes of the X1 hardware wise by going for the most powerful hardware that looks good but in that regard also plays it safer which also ties in the fact that they're also streamlining generations so consistency between the generations is a must and that means not really much new exciting hardware features which usually wouldn't be a problem if MS had their software lineup/pipeline sorted for launch which is the largest significant grievance. Can see the perspective that it's rather unexciting for a completely new generation. My use for X is mostly first time getting into it, playing older games I've never had the chance to and for future games on GP and quick resume is nice.
That is really not relevant to a console user looking to upgrade though. Or at least not nearly as relevant.
Interesting, the reviews as expected. Very little new to play but capable hardware that has a lot of potential into the future. When Halo shifted this was always gonna be an issue for those who are looking for the best 'new' thing that would blow them away. So then it seems gamepass and a strong back catalog as well as the hardware QoL over last gen Xbox are the main reasons to buy now. Its one of the reasons I've decided to wait on picking this up just yet and will see where it is in a year's time.
Obvious conclusions: great hardware, but they are clearly lacking big new games, and it will last for quite a while (Halo Infinite needs some time from what we have seen, delaying it was the best choice)
They need at least 1x more new AAA in 2021 (Forza?)
They need at least 1x more new AAA in 2021 (Forza?)
Exactly, Halo or Flight Sim or both and this launch would be looking a whole lot different. Still, to launch at all this year and to have such a great design and all that power plus Gamepass behind it, it's not a matter of if I'm going to buy it's just when.
Flight Stick with Flight Sim for under $200 and I'm in, I'll easily drop $700 for a console Flight Sim setup. I'm dropping that for cross gen games with Sony.
He broke embargo on multiple things I imagine it's ms bricking it
Highly doubtful he "bought" the game too
A lot of strange, defensive posts here wrt the lack of software.
From the very beginning of console gaming, new machines have launched with new games that show off the new console, it has always happened and been expected till now so how on earth should it not be commented on in reviews?
From the very beginning of console gaming, new machines have launched with new games that show off the new console, it has always happened and been expected till now so how on earth should it not be commented on in reviews?