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It really is, I just don't see the value outside a specific use case. You can price literally anything attractively if you make enough compromises, and the S makes too many in key areas, IMO.
Sucks but what can you do, I'm worried about Series S and PS5 too now, ssd prices can't drop soon enough.
At least we gain quick resume because of it.
At least we gain quick resume because of it.
I agree that the person you quoted could stand to be a bit less inflammatory, but honestly the concept of formatted space isn't anything new at all.
no prob not.
Xbox OS is pretty larger overall Last Gen the Xbox OS was 138GB vs 93 GB for the playstation. XSX OS is actually smaller this time.
I agree, but companies aren't open about this. They advertise as 1TB/825GB/500GB.
Doesn't bode well for the PS5 or XSS, but if this is the price of much faster storage and the ability to boot, resume, and swap games quickly...
...whatever it takes.
...whatever it takes.
Not sure about XSX but PS5 will use 4 lanes of the custom 12 channel memory controller connect directly to the PCIe 4.0. WIth
optimizing data streaming and no seek due to SSD, the install sizes will possible be lower than current gen.
These sizes may still allow for more installation space then current gen due to this
optimizing data streaming and no seek due to SSD, the install sizes will possible be lower than current gen.
These sizes may still allow for more installation space then current gen due to this
At worst if the PS5 has the same OS allocation as the XSX it will have 630GB free. If it has similar allocation as the PS4, it will have 700GB free.
Wait until they find out their 1TB 2000 EUR iPhones actually have 930GBs of space before the OS is even installed. 😆
This depends on how it's counted, Apple has been using base 10 in software for a while now.
I almost half expect to see next gen COD+Warzone or some other ambitious game to be ~300+ gigs.
Definitely we need some extra storage.
Definitely we need some extra storage.
Wonder how bad it will be on the PS5... Whatever, I have a 5TB external drive I use on my PS5 now. I will just use it for cold storage now. I don't plan on expanding my internal storage on my PS5 for at least two years. On Xbox I won't do it at all since I am only playing exclusives.
It would be HILARIOUS if one of the few times Sony's been transparent about its system were them reporting actual usable space on their storage. Which is why I think that's 825 total.
That occurred to me after posting it, which I hope it is, but also... if it's not... oooof.
Really? I was sure actual used space is more than this.
Oh I agree with that 100%. I remember installing my first replacement HDD as a teenager and thinking it was defective because "It's not showing all of the gigabytes it's supposed to" lol. It's super damn frustrating that storage manufacturers can legally advertise 1TB of space knowing full damn well it works out to 931GB after formatting.
I don't think it will be much better unfortunately. The OS needs to reserve space for Quick resume (which literally copies the RAM to the SSD of up to 3 games) and Video capture (which is usually up to 30 min of footage actively stored).
I expect it to be closer to 600 GB, because I'm sure Sony is doing the same thing as Microsoft by reserving a portion of the SSD to be used as a cache for quickly switching between games.
So considering the Series S has a 512GB SSD, we're looking at around ~330GB of storage for an all digital console?
Yikes, you're going to need more storage incredibly fast.
Yikes, you're going to need more storage incredibly fast.
interesting, Im really curious about Sonys solution on resuming. because since their SSD is twice as fast it may not need as much information to hold to resume the games quickly.
I was going off someone else's claim that PS5 would have roughly 768 GB before OS and files and stuff (and if it takes up similar space it's be closer to the 550-560 range). That may not be accurate, though.
It is quite far from accurate. The XSX allocation is ~130GB, you do that math. 768GB before OS allocation on the PS5 is correct as is 931GB on the XSX.
That's what I'm hoping.
That's a lot of space, this is an amazing feature that I will use a lot, but maaaaaaaan.
825 is the base, so no, that won't even be close to the usable amount it seems
Probably yes. You are looking at 760GB useable before OS. Even if PS5 OS is same as as PS4 you are looking at 670GB.
If it is 100GB reserved for Quick Resume, maybe it will give you the option of not using the feature in exchange of gaining that storage back?
It will have slightly more. As some of this is down to reservations for storage which are relative to other specs such as the amount of ram in the machine.