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Xbox Series X hands-on previews coming soon. Update: First Series X game impressions / footage live
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Don't think they said it can fail. They said there's a limit to how many you can have suspended. Once you pass that limit, the first game is removed, and so on.
Everything seems good so far. The one question that remains is how it handles physical xb1 games.
Can it install from the disc? or is it a download?
Any word on external ssd to internal?
Can it install from the disc? or is it a download?
That's pretty quick. The
Any word on external ssd to internal?
While that's true, it'd be a unicorn event that anyone would undersell their specs like that by using the actual free space metric instead of the theoretical size of the drive. It's very unlikely that they mean that imo.
It's not in current gen for multiple games. Also stored on SSD so will work better and across restarts.
Is there any advantage to having BC games run on in the internal rather than an external other than load times?
Didn't they say it was 825 gb total space before any sort of os reservation? I believe that number was due to some requirement of their io stuff.
That and it would be very odd for them to say 825 gb if the drive is indeed 1 tb. I don't think I've ever seen a manufacturer list a driver's size as the actual space available to the end user.
i thought it was base, due to the memory chips used or something (i forget the specific term, digital foundry would've mentioned it)
It's multi-resume: you can suspend multiple games at the same time, allowing you to switch between running games in seconds.
My super basic and NON-EXPERT interpretation of this situation is:
Since these SSDs are so fast with their data transfer bandwidth speeds, games now basically suspend on SSD storage (pretty much exactly where they're stored) and then can be recalled rapidly to even faster RAM, which is how they resume so quickly and efficiently.
While before, games were stored in a limited space of lower-speed RAM, and would have to try to quickly realign its asset stream with the slower HDD to continue play. It's now effectively much faster between the SSD and the new higher-speed RAM in these new systems which is why multiple games can be stored and recalled quite quickly, whereas the old resume pipeline was relying on slower speed RAM that had to "resync" with slower speed HDDs.
Do we know if Sony is just listing the usable space at 825GB or drive size as 825 as reckon they probably have a 1TB in there but only have a useable space of 825GB and advertising that from the start?
Current gen Xbox has Suspend/Resume but that is only in that play session generally and limited to a 2-3 games at a time. Quick Resume seems to be saving current state even after restarts and updates according to one of the preview videos and is also able to capture across 6-7 games.
I don't. I can't think of a single time where s "long" load time bothered me. I also prefer 4K@30fps than 1440p@60fps.
I mean, that's the huge difference between PCIe 3 and 4. I'm trying to get a hold of a Samsung 980 to do some testing. And even them, I don't expect to see a huge increase until developers start to take advantage of the storage speed.
Also shows that the loading time bottleneck is the game itself rather than the SSD. Next-gen games should be more impressive.
Yeah Games beat did a test with AC:O on a bunch of different arrangements.
AC:O is 49GB and the results are below (so 2.5 minutes to answer your question):
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Here's the data in minutes and seconds:
- Moving Assassin's Creed: Origins from external USB 3.0 SSD to internal SSD: 2:18.53
- From external USB 3.0 HDD to internal SSD: 7:46.03
- From internal SSD to external SSD: 04:33.10
- From internal SSD to external HDD: 10:36.78
it's so that you can swap between 5 different games around 5 seconds each time
technically it's dumping the ram each time you do it so it's kind of like putting the game to sleep
Don't think a console/phone/laptop manufacturer has ever advertised usable storage. I don't think people should get their hopes up that 825 GB is the usable rather than the pre 1000 - 1024 conversion.
I believe the One S had about 408Gb free? Should be about the same on the Series S then, if not a bit more.
I see. Seems kinda useless to me, since I generally focus on one game at a time. If I can disable it to get more HD space, great.
Quick Resume saves game states to the SSD, so there's probably a big chunk reserved for that
They're not even comparable features. Quick Resume allows you to quickly switch between multiple games and pick up right where you left off. Current-gen consoles don't have any functionality like that.
You can quick resume up to 7 games at once, so those games just hang in suspended state presumably over days or weeks as long as you don't hard reset the console.
QUick resume for 1 game was like my favorite feature from this generation, and it still amazes me to launch into a game and pick up exactly where I left off with no significant loading, etc. So this over multiple games is just gravy for me. I often play RDR2 on the weekends, but might only have time to quickly play a game like MAdden or CoD during the week, so being able to have multiple games stored in state will be a good quality of life improvement.
austin evans mentioned you can disable it... but it's unknown if that gives you the space back at the moment. (it wasn't mentioned)
that would give you about 65 GB back on XSX and 38 GB back on XSS if it does
Yeah I'm not expecting it but have always found it weird that usable storage is never really advertised
I assume this means for digital games only right? Or does it store disc-based game states into memory as well?
The quick resume allows you to switch between up to five game save states at once. Before it would work like this: open game 1 and play, open app 1, return to game 1 and it picks up exactly where you left off, open game 2 and play a little, now you can go back to game one, but rather than picking up right where you left up it will have to reboot the game and you have to wait for menus and loads to get back to where you are.
With the new quick resume, you can have the exact same scenario but be able to return to game 1 exactly where you left off, and the ability to do this with five games simultaneously.
Interesting bit in the samred article. (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2020/09/xbox-series-x-hands-on-the-big-back-compat-dive-begins/)
I knew next-gen games required the new SSD solutions, but I didn't know you'd be able to do Quick Resume with BC titles on an external (USB 3.1) drive.
I knew next-gen games required the new SSD solutions, but I didn't know you'd be able to do Quick Resume with BC titles on an external (USB 3.1) drive.
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Wonder what he disconnected from the console around 6:46, he censored it...?!?
Apparently you *can* hard reset, since the state isn't being held in RAM.
Reminder that we now have confirmation that reviewers now have cyberpunk installing. Hopefully more previews on that game and actual next gen games not far behind.
Gamespot mentioned that they tested Monster Hunter World, with their preview stating "These have all been smooth gameplay experiences, nothing too unexpected or drastically different from the Xbox One X in terms of performance so far". If Monster Hunter World had no improvements, it would be far from smooth, as that game fluctuated with a targeted 60 fps in all modes. This is my most wanted BC coverage. Did any other previews cover Monster Hunter World?
