Bruh no one talks how the auto-HDR works and if is good in the articles, I guess I will have to watch all the videos.
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Xbox Series X hands-on previews coming soon. Update: First Series X game impressions / footage live
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I am loving what they're showing for BC performance; however, they really need to show how fast the SSD is with XSX native games.
A lot of people are going to be disappointed. Loading times don't scale linearly with HDD/SSD speed and that's a narrative that's been pushed here for months. It won't matter whether a game is "optimized" for next gen or not there are other hardware, engine limitations and design elements to consider beyond just "Next Gen SSD Speed/Previous Gen 5400 RPM HDD Speed = New Gen Loading Time"
Hell, I'm going to predict right now that there will be developers who decide that an infrequent loading screen on a low difficulty game that runs to 1 minute plus is worth it to push other elements of the game as far as possible.
what I want to know is since Series X has HDMI 2.1 will it play backwards compatible games in 4K 4:4:4 instead of 4:2:2? Also Xbox had that gamma bug where game were a bit darker has that been fixed.
Microsoft is probably just using a whitelist to ensure that the people with preview consoles need to focus on certain games at different times. In this case, it seems they want us to see how Xbox Series X|S improves the experience for games not even designed with the systems in mind. This shouldn't be taken to represent actual compatibility.
This is the info I've been waiting on. Transferring a 49GB from the internal SSD to external USB3 HDD took 10 minutes. Transferring it back took around 7. Much better than having to re-download it.
If they sent to Jeff gerstman as well that's be 4 Jeffs
Xbox series Jeff
Where is the gameplay lol.
also where is the boot up, shutdown, suspend resume etc. ALL the shit gamers care about.
SSD is fast, sheessssh we get it already.
also where is the boot up, shutdown, suspend resume etc. ALL the shit gamers care about.
SSD is fast, sheessssh we get it already.
smh at people camparing load times of games running on BC mode.
That snappy UI is glorious.
Watching Grubb going from various games with quick resume, to Apps & Games, filter some shit and going to the store, and everything being almost instantaneus feels like magic, specially thinking on how dreadful that process would be on a One X.
Watching Grubb going from various games with quick resume, to Apps & Games, filter some shit and going to the store, and everything being almost instantaneus feels like magic, specially thinking on how dreadful that process would be on a One X.
Is the quick resume feature going to work on disc games? I think it should since the game is installed on the ssd so you should only have to put the disc in for the license check. Still more of an annoyance and may force me to go all digital. I need that quick resume!
those internal/external ssd times make me all but give 2 shits about the price of Microsoft's external solution.....because I'll be more than happy spending few mins moving games around
So, if you're not connected to the Internet, you can't even play a disc version of the game you might have for Xbox One?
What?
Any hands-on previews of non BC titles? I mean there is so much you can do for older titles. Some of the loading titles listed are still too long.
We need to see some next-gen footage...
We need to see some next-gen footage...
Especially if you can start it without it being fully copied like PS4 downloads\install does.
Surprised to see so little difference between external SSD and internal drive.
Ooo didnt know you could have a usb external ssd i tought you could only have the little ssd that you put on the back
That doesn't sound right as Ryan at IGN was losing into Halo 5 on his video and showing off loading time comparisons.
We started with access to 494 bc games. Then on Friday night, another *500* were added. Buuuuuusy weekend for us Series X testers.
My Ars piece (linked earlier) includes charts and some game-specific results. Monster Hunter World in particular is a beast.
You have to download the back compat version to storage...
That isn't new.
What?
These aren't final hardware, they're for press and influencers to make content with and then send back to Microsoft. Presumably, they're white-listing software for these specific units.
I started playing Destiny 2 on Stadia with the three free months of Pro and it was real hard to go back to the Xbox One X version, it looked better but 30fps and 4x the load times was frustrating. Waiting for my Series X to get back into it
These passive enhancements are great. Sekiro finally being 60fps on console. Load time improvements are actually beyond what I personally expected. Damn.
Yeah, I'll spring for an Xbox Series X as soon as I find one now. I was originally content to wait, but since I actually do use Game Pass quite frequently, I think the passive improvements to those games might still make for a better-than-average launch window experience, considering the backlog of Game Pass games i'm interested in is presently quite extensive.
I also hope the passive improvements are just as dramatic on PS5!
Yeah, I'll spring for an Xbox Series X as soon as I find one now. I was originally content to wait, but since I actually do use Game Pass quite frequently, I think the passive improvements to those games might still make for a better-than-average launch window experience, considering the backlog of Game Pass games i'm interested in is presently quite extensive.
I also hope the passive improvements are just as dramatic on PS5!
For people complaining about the usable space on these machines, they need to look at how disk space has been advertised over the last several decades. Disk manufacturers do not use the 1024 base multiplier in their advertising, but instead use a flat 1000 multiplier.
This means that on a drive that they advertise to be 1 TB, you are not getting 1024 GBs for that, but instead 1000 GBs. Move that through all the multipliers, and in the end you are actually getting about 930 GBs of usable space on a disk. If you take away some of that for caching, an OS partition, the low level hypervisor, backwards compatibility VMs, and similar, you end up with a much less usable space than the 1 TB that is advertised.
This is not valid only for these new consoles, but basically, every storage device that has been released in the last few decades. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. :)
This means that on a drive that they advertise to be 1 TB, you are not getting 1024 GBs for that, but instead 1000 GBs. Move that through all the multipliers, and in the end you are actually getting about 930 GBs of usable space on a disk. If you take away some of that for caching, an OS partition, the low level hypervisor, backwards compatibility VMs, and similar, you end up with a much less usable space than the 1 TB that is advertised.
This is not valid only for these new consoles, but basically, every storage device that has been released in the last few decades. It's unfortunate, but it is what it is. :)
Except we have Ratchet and Clank and Demon's souls showing load times being near to none for loading in entire levels.
Doesn't seem to be. Seems the press only got access to BC titles as of now.
You will get that with native games that expect the SSD to be there. Last gen games both use old APIs and also need to load enough data for a huge part of the level.
A next gen example of how SSD can influence design is if you fast travel to a city in a game you could spawn the player in a building almost instantly and then load the rest of the city data needed in the time it takes to walk the 5 steps to the door.
So there is in fact a whitelist of some sort on the OS level then?
Both games are made specifically with it in mind, I think the person you are replying to is saying for BC games etc it won't just magically be gone.
SATA SSD and NVME SSD load times for games on the PC are the same. It doesn't matter that the NVME SSDs are faster on paper, the older games use antiquated methods to access data on drives.
Although I'm just guessing it's likely much more the X because of the reserved space required for any cache, 4k clips, bigger fast resume dumps and such.
Yup. I'd say cheap cold storage is the way to go cost wise for awhile. Thanks for sharing.
Damn, the new UI looks so good and so fast on the Series X. MS definitely made the right choice by not starting from scratch.
It's most definitely not locked to 30fps during the Pontiff Sulyvahn fight.
Seems a bit early to have a first hands-on with the console if the only thing they could show is the most basic of backward compatibility. These games haven't been tweaked or patched to take advantage of the better hardware. Though, I'm not sure how many games will actually do that.
So they are all pretty much showing that older games load faster on the Series X. Which is nice and all, but these load times aren't particularly mind-blowing. To me, these comparison stats are mostly just showing how abysmal current load times are and that the Series X is finally able to bring it down to acceptable levels.
So they are all pretty much showing that older games load faster on the Series X. Which is nice and all, but these load times aren't particularly mind-blowing. To me, these comparison stats are mostly just showing how abysmal current load times are and that the Series X is finally able to bring it down to acceptable levels.