Stop. Auto HDR is a system level feature on next gen Xbox consoles.
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Xbox Series X Auto-HDR: one of next-gen's coolest features [Jeff Grubb & EvilBoris video]
- Thread starter TameLucas
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And even further, what about PC? Seems like Xbox is getting all the cool features.
Series S does it too. It does everything (I think?) that Series X does, other than 4k.
The video is just all 'Series X this and that' because that's the hardware that the press has at the moment.
One of the features I am most excited for, amazing stuff. I'm going to try out so many 360 games again lol.
Same thing that's stopping them from supporting PS1-PS3 backwards compatibility.
Not EvilBoris, but my understanding is those TV implementations add significant input lag so they are bad for gaming. This implementation has no lag.
Really would appreciate a side-by-side comparison in an HDR formatted video to see the difference - without it, it looks great but no baseline to compare to hinders the wowness factor.
Welp, there it is. This and quick resume and I don't even care about other next-gen leaps. I'm content on those alone.
Yeah, TV based HDR+ isn't usable in Game Mode for a reason.
If MS could start re-selling / advertising BC games digitally for a couple of quid, they could be pitched as new experiences. Could have bulletpoints listing if they have HDR, better framerates / more stable ones etc.
I think people would pay a small amount to try out old favourites in ways that make them look better. I think at the moment the games are about a fiver, that's too expensive.
I think people would pay a small amount to try out old favourites in ways that make them look better. I think at the moment the games are about a fiver, that's too expensive.
I just want it available for the hundreds of games I own on PS4 that don't have HDR implemented.
I hear ya, it's just that thus far, as far as we can tell, Sony really doesn't have much intention of doing anything to enhance backwards compatibility.
No doubt they have talented people that could do it, but it doesn't seem like a priority.
There's general BC frame rates and resolution talk in the vids in the OP. Didn't see anything related to its HDR, only dynamic res boost.
Wtf is up with Grubb's video. His feed is crushed to fuck and back, and some of the early game footage looks like HDR footage processed by an SDR display.
Anyway, it gets better later on and the video overall is really good. Lots of insight
Anyway, it gets better later on and the video overall is really good. Lots of insight
You can't trigger auto HDR in games that already offer HDR. RDR2, Destiny 2, etc. that already support HDR just have the video author talking about the performance of the game on Series X.
Edit: They did use Fallout New Vegas as an example of a game that does not support auto HDR, which is interesting.
It is wild (and I know most of this exists on One X now) but framed a certain way Final Fantasy XIII Trilogy remastered (4K/HDR) is an exclusive launch title (among many others like that) and if they can they should lean into that marketing for sure
I've never seen Banjo-Kazooie pop as much as that demo. The potential here is crazy. Kudos to the backwards compatibility team at Microsoft, they continue to keep impressing me.
For real and the more you all tell me this the sadder I feel about this.
They really need to get their head in the game with these types of features. You can't get left in behind the dust like this.
Watching these videos on an HDR display (I didn't the first time, crappy work monitor first time) they look AMAZING!!
You can argue it was the best looking game on the 360. HDR is a huge boost for it.
I really want to know if the Series X can play unpatched Xbox One games off disc if you aren't online. Like, can you play RDR2 V1.0 in HDR? Can you play AC:Unity V1.0 at 60 fps? Right now, they're limited to whatever's white listed on the service so we don't have that answer yet, but I hope for Xbox One content it doesn't work like Xbox 360 BC does, where the disc just works as a key and you run a downloaded version of the game.
Because I'm interested in these fringe cases.
Edit: Brain fart forgetting that RDR2 launched with awful HDR, vs no HDR.
Tech looks amazing. A question I was wondering. For games that already have HDR settings in them, does the Xbox Auto HDR stuff override the games usual settings or not?
Some games certainly have their own options when it comes to HDR, so I am wondering if in some cases it would be better to let the Xbox do HDR.
Some games certainly have their own options when it comes to HDR, so I am wondering if in some cases it would be better to let the Xbox do HDR.
Yes I'm very interested in this too. I'm leaning towards Series X having enough of Xbox One's DNA that if you're disconnected from the internet and you pop in that AC Unity disc it will just install the game from disc as expected on an actual Xbox One. I don't think there's a cut-off with Xbox One games where they now act as a "legacy Xbox title" like 360 and OG Xbox where the disc is a key and the entire install package is downloaded from Microsoft. Might be worth reaching out to DigitalFoundry or Jeff Grubb about that!
There are some distinct advantages this has over what TVs can do.
Primarily that you can apply the SDR-HDR conversion to an image that is 10bit+
The TV is hamstrung by the bit depth it is presented with.
This system has been trained on game content- something which is typically not the content focus for these types of things on TVs.
In terms of what the TVs , I'm sure you could get to a approximation of it utilising the various adjustments you can apply on a TV.
I said earlier that it "won't work" but really should have said I don't see how it would work. Xbox's HDR method is very static, the game is either HDR on or HDR off at boot depending on support and the system level setting. There's no HDR toggle in Xbox games like on some PS4 titles, so if you boot the game and the game sees HDR is enabled at the system level, it just uses its built-in HDR.
The One X and Series X also boost the resolution up to 4k. It's the type of game where the visuals age really well.
That's a shame. Would be nice if we can disable in game hdr and try MS method.
Yup, I love this tech, but I really hope they find a way to leave HUD at a lower brightness.
