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Xbox Series X: A Closer Look at the Technology Powering the Next Generation
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Its hilarious that when this was revealed for PS5, some people straight up refused to accept the fact that next-gen systems might have faster storage than their current PC SSDs, almost as if the idea physically hurt them.
As expected, and so good.
Oh fuck yeah, mesh shaders. I could be wrong, but I think this is the first time hearing that mesh shaders are in RDNA 2 and thus Xbox Series X.
Confirmed: All Xbox One Controllers are Forward Compatible with Scarlett
I don’t believe this was known until now, but Xbox accessories Producting/Marketing manager James Shields confirmed that all current Xbox One controllers will be forward compatible with Scarlett: Huge news, and such a welcome change to the former status quo. Kudos to Microsoft for continuing...
www.resetera.com
It was that thread with the tweet, I took that to mean only Bluetooth ones would work,but reading it now Phil's tweet seems to indicate all....
I have to say Microsoft is not here to play this go round!
Sony is not getting a lay-up from Microsoft this generation with Series X...
Sony is not getting a lay-up from Microsoft this generation with Series X...
I realize this, but until an RDNA 2 card gets thoroughly tested, it's all we have; the raw floating point operation throughput.
You're making assumptions about relative AMD to nVidia performance based on past architectures. Your assumptions about how this translates into FPS could definitely be valid. But this also isn't a PC.
Let's hope not !
I hope I don't have to deal with batteries I can't replace when they are busted or suddenly die on me and I can resume playing with a couple fresh AA without having to use a 3mt cable across the room.
#teamAAbatteries
Buy a few rechargeable AA and you basically have ALL the advantages of included battery, way cheaper and without the trouble.
Yes, the PlayStation brand is strong for now but this was also the situation during the PS2 era and Sony lost all of that dominance with just a series of bad decisions. This is just my prediction, I think history is about to repeat itself.
RDNA is actually quite close to Turing, so the old GCN comparisons are outdated.
They're not only going to overcome a 60+ million gap, but dominate, all because they revealed their specs a couple of months earlier?
That's certainly a take...or wishful thinking.
what bad decisions do you see sony making? even with all the crap they pulled during the ps3 era and launching a year later at a much higher price MS wasn't able to beat them.
On the upside I think you can still use massive mechanical hardrives as "cold storage" have 4tb of games waiting and move them to the SSD when you want to play them.
I mean, the hardware isn't any faster. It's on the higher tier of consumer NVMe products, sure, but it's how the software can access the I/O where the improvements are coming from.
There are so many good tidbits in the article but this one stands out personally. I mean, this is really awesome and extremely convenient. This console looks like it's going to be genuinely amazing.
Confirmed: All Xbox One Controllers are Forward Compatible with Scarlett
I don’t believe this was known until now, but Xbox accessories Producting/Marketing manager James Shields confirmed that all current Xbox One controllers will be forward compatible with Scarlett: Huge news, and such a welcome change to the former status quo. Kudos to Microsoft for continuing...
It was that thread with the tweet, I took that to mean only Bluetooth ones would work,but reading it now Phil's tweet seems to indicate all....
It's always been all.
2.4gb's is quite slow for a pcie 4.0 nvme (if that is what they use) but the software side plus hardware decompression is quite interesting & they claim it can double it, how often can speed be doubled in real time is yet to be seen though.
Wow....that's made my day, and here was I thinking about replacing my V1 just so it would work with the Series X
If you mean its equivalent to one of the absolute fastest consumer NVMe available running on latest AMD motherboard, then sure. But like Dark1x said, its beyond what most folks currently have in their PCs.
Hardly a yikes when even on this enthusiast forum I've seen complaints for both - read the pro Xbox thread and it's people complaining of a built in battery in the pro controller. As an owner of a PlayStation and Xbox give me rechargeable eneloops over a completely dead controller anyday
Happy to get a XsX when available!
Sony seems to be completely out of sync for the coming gen,mmmhhh not good..And i'm foremost a PS fan.
Kudos to MS :D
Sony seems to be completely out of sync for the coming gen,mmmhhh not good..And i'm foremost a PS fan.
Kudos to MS :D
They perhaps have access to usage data, and thought that lack of gyro was the way to go.
Also, Eneloops are your friend :)
I prefer AA over built in battery so I can still use my eneloops. Ps4 Controller battery was horrible. I have a elite V2 anyways so meh.
The Xbox Series X SSD is about on par with what I would expect a current PC NVMe drive to perform at. It's actually a bit slower than a mid to high end PC NVMe drive like the hp EX950 ($153 for 1TB). But the hardware compression/decompression is a huge benefit that PCs don't have.
XSX: 2.4GB/s
hp EX950: 3.5GB/s
HP SSD EX950 NVMe M.2 SSD Review: Geared for Gaming
HP’s SSD EX950 is a wicked fast NVMe M.2 SSD that ranks as one of the best on the market.
www.tomshardware.com
I don't think so but iirc the TC devs DF interviewed said Gears 5 already had ray tracing built in for PC ultra settings so it's just a matter of XSX taking advantage of that.... something like that.
Will definitely be interessting to see how far i can push my costum RTX 3080 with tripple fan design OC wise.
Im expecting 20-30% better performance over a 2080ti with way better RT.
Meh, I spent £150 on an Xbox controller that has a built-in battery and I'd still rather it used AAs. My rechargables last forever. Better than my dead DualShock 3s and Move controllers.
As someone that prefers PlayStation (I've not had an Xbox since the original Xbox) MS is killing it. I've gone from not caring about Xbox to seriously thinking that I will be picking this up. I think I'm proof that Sony's silence is not helping them, b/c damn MS is getting me excited.
I prefer not having a built in battery. But cases for either way can be made.
The decompression stuff & few people having nvme's (most people still get a sata ssd even in 2020) will probably mean ram requirements in PC ports will be jumped up, a high end PC having 24/26gb's of ram (8/11 gb vram & 16gb's ram) will probably help a bit, but we will see. there is going to be a lot of bitching on the steam forums from people with a gtx 960 & an i5 from 2012, it's upgrade season bois.The Xbox Series X SSD is about on par with what I would expect a current PC NVMe drive to perform at. It's actually a bit slower than a mid to high end PC NVMe drive like the hp EX950 ($153 for 1TB). But the hardware compression/decompression is a huge benefit that PCs don't have.
XSX: 2.4GB/s
hp EX950: 3.5GB/s
HP SSD EX950 NVMe M.2 SSD Review: Geared for Gaming
HP’s SSD EX950 is a wicked fast NVMe M.2 SSD that ranks as one of the best on the market.
Looks great. Hopefully memory prices come down for expansion.
If they have cross Gen games, do they downgrade without ssd?
Ram sounds low, but I'm sure they know what they're doing.
If they have cross Gen games, do they downgrade without ssd?
Ram sounds low, but I'm sure they know what they're doing.
I think the purpose with the smaller leap in RAM size is that with the speed of the new SSDs you don't need an exponential increase in RAM as the HDD is that much quicker at loading stuff into memory.
Looking beastly! I sure wish MS would put more of an effort in more markets besides NA and the UK. On the hardware front they've been doing great for a long time and some of their services (read: Gamepass) are indeed praise-worthy from a consumer perspective.
I think it will mean SSDs will be required for PC ports, maybe even NVMe SSDs.
The decompression stuff is cool and helps to get the most out of the SSD, but can't PC gamers buy a fast NVMe SSD with over 4 GB/s to perform smiliar? 4 GB/s NVMe SSDs can still be installed on PCIe 3.0 so most people could upgrade. RAM however is more expensive.
heh. Glad they have a sense of humor. Pretty much took that one photoshop someone made at tga and ran with it.
They offer options like the possibility to use rechargeables and that's always a good thing. Gyro? Personally I couldn't care less about such gimmicks.
This is how compression and packing works now in game engines. They use HDD as the baseline and when they pack the games, the most crucial data is duplicated and placed in multiple sectors to prevent hunting when looking for data. If the head is currently at the outer edge, you don't want to come down to the inner part to look for data, this adds latency and the more you keep hunting back and forth the higher the latency (milliseconds of latency). If you're already at the outer edge you can grab the duplicate instead. The speed of HDD is not uniform across the disk, the inner part is faster than the outer part.
SSD has "uniform" speed across the entire block so you don't need to duplicate data. Also helps that it is an order of magnitude faster than HDD. Latency in SSD is measured in nanoseconds compared to HDD in millisecond. Your current gen game you install on an Nvme SSD still uses the same packing and compression methods as HDD. Next gen we will be getting all new file, compression/decompression and packing methods which will use 2.4GB/s bandwidth as baseline compared to 50MB/s baseline we have now.
it's not a yikes at all. Rechargeable batteries all day long. And what's with the obsession over gyro? It not having it is not a big ducking deal at all.
