The only game I'm probably going to buy for the rest of the year is cyberpunk, should I just keep my 1x then instead of selling it for a series s ?
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Xbox Series S Won’t Apply Xbox One X BC Enhancements, Microsoft Confirms
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Xbox One X modes for games tend to have other visual enhancements that will now need to be specifically patched into the Series S (which most wont do) is what you're missing.
The X enhancements aren't just 4K, otherwise no game on it would have a performance mode.
People who didn't see this coming weren't paying attention. This wouldn't be all that bad if so many Xbox One games weren't stuck at 900p and most performances modes with unlocked framerates were also exclusive to the mid gen refreshes, which means there are less games with unlocked framerates that really take advantage of the additional horsepower.
Don't buy the Series S for BC, that's what the Series X is for, especially if you go further back than Xbox One. I doubt there are many people who went all digital on Xbox 360 and you didn't have that option to begin with on the original Xbox.
So far Series S makes a really good case for Series X, moreso than for itself. Makes it look like a bargain.
Don't buy the Series S for BC, that's what the Series X is for, especially if you go further back than Xbox One. I doubt there are many people who went all digital on Xbox 360 and you didn't have that option to begin with on the original Xbox.
So far Series S makes a really good case for Series X, moreso than for itself. Makes it look like a bargain.
If money is an issue I wouldnt just for 1 or 2 games but XSX will be your best bet for future proofing
You are a consumer that cares about performance. This is a budget model. They have a performance model.
Most games use a dynamic resolution nowadays so on those games it will automatically take advantage of the newer gpu to max out the resolution
That was a good trade up deal actually.
But with covid GS have been charging a $75 fee on trade in, at least here in NY.
I would be shocked if you walk out of GS today with more than $200 for a 1X trade in.
You don't get any Xbox One X enhancements. That includes performance modes, higher res textures, better ambient occlusion, etc if those items were included as a One X enhancement.
And there is a good chance you may actually be capped at 900p resolution unless MS has put in some sort of hardware override to generate 1080p or 1440p.
Probably because playing XB1 games on an XSS won't give you 1440p, and rarely even 1080p
Well - from what I can gather - some 1X games will have specific versions tailored to that system, which Series S won't have (But SX will have).
For example, Series S will have the 1S version of RDR2 with some extra IQ improvements but won't benefit from the full suite of goodies the 1X version has (improved particles, textures, draw distance etc). The SX version of RDR2 for example will be the 1X version on steroids.
You just spent around twenty minutes writing this out LOL
No one is saying you won't get those bonuses but the entire part of the upgrades is built around " 4K " and yes its marketing but it is the high point of it all for the majority of people. You are literally in a thread where people are complaining about this, how can you read more than 3 threads and watch a DF video and not get that?
You are also complaing that a $299 console can't do what a $499 console was able to, if you want all those nice benefits and not just a cheap next gen entry level option go buy a series X.
They call that the 4k enhancement tho. So thats why i said correct. I know its more then just res.
Agreed. We knew that this was going to be confusing and it will be up to MS to message it clearly. They have obviously made the decision to sacrifice resolution for increased performance. That may rub some console gamers wrong that prefer resolution. I suppose a developer could still choose to make a Series S version of an Xbox One game that looked more like the One X version with lower frames. Wouldn't be my personal preference, but to each his own. Give me performance.
When I checked all the major retailers it was either OOO or sold at a mark up wherever I looked. And I assumed the 1s would get a price drop once the series' come out. And Like I said I'm getting it almost exclusively for backwards compat (I'll be getting a PS5 for my next gen needs) so if the 2 are going to play BC games the same way, why would I get the presumably more expansive one?
Only because then new box is going to perform worse than the existing old box I have, purchased at a time when money wasn't an object...
It will always be for people who want to save money, there won't be price drops only on X, this will always be cheaper. People can buy in at a price that suits them based on what's important to them. For many people, that won't be running games in 4K, BC or next gen.
This is entirely false. You will not get close to a similar experience on your current One. The only games you will, are current gen games with One X enhancements that are designed specifically for the One X. Every other game will run better on the Series S than the One X, especially cross gen/next gen games.
Wait, the $299 Xbox Series S comes with free GamePass and EA Play?!
Well that was embarrassing. Sometimes my fingers work quicker than my brain. LOL. Thanks.
Well, yes... The debate here is over the One X features, which it can't access. My point is that it's not just the resolution, some other One X stuff is getting left behind as well, even running at 1080p, because it's strictly limited to the original One S profile.
Personally, this hardly changes the way I view the Series S, it's still one hell of a package for its price.
But the performance modes often run at 1080p. People keep making this mistake thinking they're only missing out on 4K when they aren't. I'm just trying to be as clear as possible to stop the confusion.
Perform worse in SOME instances. It'll run cross gen games better. It'll run next gen games, it'll run non One X enhanced games better as well.
A free trial, yes, I think that for a long time every XBOX sold offers that.
Do you want to play all upcoming big third party games for $299, if you don't want to pay that you can wait and likely pay $200 in time.
Honestly at this point it wouldn't surprise me.
The Series S has been and always will be a GamePass machine.
That's what it exists for.
It's meant to be cheap to get people into GamePass. They stay in GamePass. They stay in the eco-system.
It should really be called the Xbox Series GamePass. That's all anyone's really going to use it for.
Want GamePass games but don't have a good pc? Series S. Want to play Fable but not at 499? Series S.
You sure about that? On Xbox One X and PS4 Pro, sure but on Xbox One S you are either getting locked 900p, dynamic res capped at 1080p or dynamic res capped at 900p with the occasional game running at 1080p native res. At least it has been that way for the last few years. I doubt that any Xbox One S games will scale higher than 1080p without someone doing extra work on them.
The X1S sold more than the X1X. I think, and hopefully someone will correct me if I'm wrong, that last year, Microsoft sold far more X1S consoles than X1X consoles, so it's for all the people that don't want to spend $500 on a console.
Heck, I'm pretty sure the PS4 still comfortably outsells the PS4 Pro. Most people *aren't* after the highest end experience.
It even gets patches for certain xbox one games with doubling framerate also.
Because that just sounds like bullshit. The console should be able to render less demanding games in 4K. It's hard to believe the system is incapable of running games like RDR in 4K, and if they're just arbitrarily saying "We're not advertising this is a 4K console, so no 4K whatsoever" that's really lame, I'm not sure what anyone would or should be fine with that.
A next-gen console to play gamepass first-party titles in. On medium settings. In GamePass.
Not quite. It's running those versions of the game but it will run it better. More steady frame rate, dynamic resolution will probably be locked instead as well for the most part without drops in those games. And auto HDR can happen do to some machine learning.
Did you read? Performance is better and it has better texture filtering. It doesn't do the X enhancements simply because it doesn't have the RAM for it.
Just remember that this is a 12 page thread in just over an hour about how the series S will run 360 games*...
It's got nothing to do with how the Series S runs it's own games, OR how the Series S runs Xbox One games.
When the 1X runs a 360 game, because it has tons of ram, it can do some clever stuff to approximate running a 4k version of the 360 game with some better textures. The Series S has enough ram to run next gen games at 1080p/1440p because those textures aren't as large. It doesn't have enough ram to do the same trick as the 1X does and run 360 games at a funky 4k level.
Everyone's got themselves in a massive twist about a minor issue with RAM size.
If you're the sort of person who cares about playing a 360 game in a fancy 4k kind of way, then you'll get a Series X**.
If you're on a tight budget, and just want to play the latest COD and Fifa, you'll get the Series S**
*Yes - I haven't mentioned original xbox games because this post is already ridiculous enough
**Other console manufacturers are available too
It's got nothing to do with how the Series S runs it's own games, OR how the Series S runs Xbox One games.
When the 1X runs a 360 game, because it has tons of ram, it can do some clever stuff to approximate running a 4k version of the 360 game with some better textures. The Series S has enough ram to run next gen games at 1080p/1440p because those textures aren't as large. It doesn't have enough ram to do the same trick as the 1X does and run 360 games at a funky 4k level.
Everyone's got themselves in a massive twist about a minor issue with RAM size.
If you're the sort of person who cares about playing a 360 game in a fancy 4k kind of way, then you'll get a Series X**.
If you're on a tight budget, and just want to play the latest COD and Fifa, you'll get the Series S**
*Yes - I haven't mentioned original xbox games because this post is already ridiculous enough
**Other console manufacturers are available too
To be fair, do we know when that will be? Where is MS drawing the next gen line?
So are we saying Destiny 2 will run 1440p 60 on Series S but still 4K 30 one One X?
yes. after digital foundry speculated this its still disappointing. many one S games fun at 900p or lower
If you ignore all the improvements they've already announced that will be applied by default to every BC title and all the titles they've already announced that will be optimized for Series S (49 so far across current and next gen) then sure. So not really...
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