Still all with max frame rates (besides Dark Souls 1 probably) and way faster loading times. And 16x af.
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The main drawback will certainly be SSD space, but I'm hoping within a few months even, we can see competitors offering cheaper expansion drives than what Microsoft is offering or a nice holiday sale to get the drive to <$200.
Reviews are all pretty much saying what most have expected - if you intend on playing more than indie games or a handful of large blockbusters, you're going to need that expanded storage and the value proposition becomes hard to justify at that point when the Series X is sitting right there.
I don't think Phil's prediction that this will sell more than the Series X will ever come true as the value that seems apparent at first blush just isn't there upon closer inspection. As the IGN review stated, this seems to have a very specific use as a secondary console but there's almost no way to justify using it as a primary machine.
I don't think Phil's prediction that this will sell more than the Series X will ever come true as the value that seems apparent at first blush just isn't there upon closer inspection. As the IGN review stated, this seems to have a very specific use as a secondary console but there's almost no way to justify using it as a primary machine.
Both 16xAF and the Auto-HDR are supposed to be standard on the Series S for older titles, if memory serves.
I wanted to have this option to not download the 4K textures but for the XSX :v
I'm not a sucker for 4K yet (I'm holding on my old shitty tv till the day I can afford an CX or similar) but I would love to play stuff at 1080P with Ray Tracing and stuff (What I currently do on PC), without the need to hog my SSD with huge games with 4k textures added
I'm not a sucker for 4K yet (I'm holding on my old shitty tv till the day I can afford an CX or similar) but I would love to play stuff at 1080P with Ray Tracing and stuff (What I currently do on PC), without the need to hog my SSD with huge games with 4k textures added
360 games with X enhancements will get boosted
Example RDR1 will be 1440p
xbox one games with Dynamic resolution will likely hit its highest target
So halo 5 will likely hit 1080p at all times
Also all games will get AFx16 and improved loading. And auto HDR
Performance and loading times look absolutely great. Tiny, cool and quiet, really impressed with what Microsoft have done for the pricepoint. It's absolutely a next generation console just at a lower resolution.
That's great. AF was always a little bad this gen so I'm happy to it being automatically improved.
I'm the same boat as you. I have a 1080p TV and dont want to got a 4K by now, my most concern was if Xbox One S games still be 900p on Series S and mostly of them get boosted 1080p based on this review
JUST PREORDERNED MY SERIES S GUYS!!!
Yeah, I wasn't expecting that at all. Running all Xbox One games at 1080p with 16xAF, auto HDR, completely locked framerates and dramatically reduced loading times is a really nice set of automatic upgrades. Backwards compatibility looks great.
It should in most games as most games are CPU limited when it comes to fps. That doesn't mean the GPU has nothing on it, though, but but the purpose is to target at least lower resolution and what else is necessary to get it running on the S.
Sorry I'm trying to find on reviews if these backwards compatibility enhancements require games to run off the SSD or if Xbox One and 360 games for example can get these benefits of an external hard drive.
If you're happy to chop and change games every now and then, I'd probably say yes. Obviously we don't know how this will fare against some other games going forward but right now? It's a really solid entrypoint into the new gen. Particularly if you're sticking with 1080p for a bit
You'll see the resolution and frame rate bump etc, but not the loading times
Eh, s'alright ;)
(Seriously though, it's a good second box. If you've got a PS5 on order, or if you have a PC, or if you're still on 1080p, or you're not *that* fussed about all the terry-flops, then it's great)
Is this really a thing? Do people basically own more than one of roughly the same console in the same household? I can see it being owned by different people in the same household, but one person owning multiples...
I knew someone in college who owned 3 Xbox 360s in the same place and that is just baffling.
Backwards compatible games can run off a USB HDD. If you use a USB SSD you'll get the same super fast load times, if you use a mechanical USB drive, load times will still be faster than Xbox One but won't match internal or external SSD speeds. Even with a mechanical drive, you still get quick resume from the internal drive.
All the performance and visual enhancement will remain regardless of where you boot the game from.
Not trying to be mean and most of the criticisms are fair. That being said if your like the IGN review testing on your 4K LG OLED you're probably not the market for this.
Wish they'd told us how it looks/performs on older 1080p TVs. Also wish more reviews showed us the difference in file size between the X and the S in a wider variety of games.
Wish they'd told us how it looks/performs on older 1080p TVs. Also wish more reviews showed us the difference in file size between the X and the S in a wider variety of games.
Kinda disappointed it only delivers 30 fps even at 1080p in some titles. I don't care about 4K as I'm gaming on a 1080p screen anyway, but the fact that even last-gen games are not running at 1080p60 is not exactly heartwarming. Maybe patches can fix these issues, but right now, I'm not convinced. Gonna wait at least a couple of months.
Damn that's nice, I was playing Plague Tale Innocence on the One S last week just before I sold it and was hoping for a resolution boost on the S as it looked a bit blurry. Everything getting bumped to 1080p is some good work from MS.
That's actually a really good point right there. The Series S was never meant for people willing to drop a few grand on a 4K OLED.
The MVG review is really good lots of measurements of performance, install sizes and loading times.
For backwards compatible titles, if the original console version had a framerate cap then it would need an update from the developer to unlock it to 60 fps. It's an issue whether you're playing an Xbox or Playstation BC game, hopefully developers make console versions more future-proof going forward.
Their backwards compatibility team are one of their biggest assets in my book, they've done some incredible work.
I mean second to my Playstation 5 when I eventually get it. But yeah, people do this, especially if kids are involved.
The IGN review shows screenshots of the installed versions of Gears 5 and it is significantly less on the S. So this isn't true, unless they've done some weirdness with copying the game between the two.
I'm having the hardest time deciding whether Xbox One X to Series S is an upgrade. Like... I want the Series S as a companion console to my PS5, but that means I'm mostly interested in GamePass games and older Xbox and XB360 titles. It bothers me that the Series S can't run those back compat games at the higher resolutions that the One X already offers.
So other than the much faster hard drive... Why would I upgrade from a One X to a Series S at this point?
So other than the much faster hard drive... Why would I upgrade from a One X to a Series S at this point?
I would argue that it's a downgrade. It will be a few years before it makes any sense going from One X to Series S.
Guess I should cancel my preorder
Second/secondary console usually means someone has a main console (or PC) that they buy most games on, while the other console is for a few specific games. The Switch is a good example for many here.
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The storage is worrisome, but I'll still buy a Series S for gamepass when I can walk into a store and just pick one up (or I see a good deal on Amazon, haha).
You'd also go from 1TB to 500GB.. If I were in your situation, I'd just wait and get a Series X when there is some kind of sale.
There is not really any exclusive content for Xbox Series, you are not missing out on something. That One X will be fine for the next year.
Haha probably should have said "most". I'm planning on getting one for the 720p TV I have in my bedroom.
This is only for OG Xbox and 360 games right? And One games will be running on One S setting?
Ahh ok, I was thinking second console as in like two of the same. Gotcha.
Yeah Switch is my second console behind PS4/PS5.
About what I was thinking. Thanks for confirming.
I never did until I had a wife and kids. Now it's basically a necessity. I don't want to play mature games in front of my kids or hogging the console when I want to play so the Series X goes in the basement/man cave. If the kids want to play games or if we're doing some family game time, there's the Series S in the living room. The $200 that I saved by goes with a Series S instead of a Series X has already been used to purchase 3 years of GamePass Ultimate which I'll be sharing across the 2 consoles.
Xbox Series X/S review: Beautiful, powerful—but whatcha gonna play?
Finally, you can enjoy our first lengthy tests of the weirdly positioned $299 Series S.
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For third party games I think so, but many first parties are going to get proper upgrades for the XSS.
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It's running the BC version, the whole ''Game with 309103910239 versions'' situation is being tricky for reviewers.Xbox Series X/S review: Beautiful, powerful—but whatcha gonna play?
Finally, you can enjoy our first lengthy tests of the weirdly positioned $299 Series S.
Yes, but I have kids. Like we currently own two switches, and I might get a second Series S if my other child wants one.
Yeah no, lol IGN already mentioned the it's ~51GB on the series S.
I hadn't thought about that but yeah it's actually great. Honestly, even the small SSD could be of use since I'm already trying to not spoil them with too many games so they learn to finish games before jumping to something new.
I see. I was thinking how nice certain One games run better at Series X (like Sekiro and MHW), but I know I want a PS5 too and maybe those game run flawless or close to. I guess my idea to get a Xbox Series S + PS5 in the following months is not that bad idea I think.