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Xbox One - A Generational Masterclass
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This really does sound like some Ole interviews, it's unbelievable
Thanks for your input! Lol š
Would you kindly expouse what you do care about while you are here? No one asked but you might as well now!
Aside from the launch lineup of the PS4 and one, I have no idea how anyone could look at each year for the consoles exclusives and ever come out saying Microsoft had a better year than either Sony or Nintendo.
Even from a business point of view, the PS3 was a bigger turn around then the one had. If the one had caught up, hell even if it got close to the PS4 in sales I would agree, but it's not even close the PS3 at least accomplished that
Even from a business point of view, the PS3 was a bigger turn around then the one had. If the one had caught up, hell even if it got close to the PS4 in sales I would agree, but it's not even close the PS3 at least accomplished that
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caused me to have more enjoyment
isn't that the whole point of games?
The only thing that console is missing is good games (or at least games that appeal to me). I don't consider a single one of their exclusives this gen as a must-play. Literally everything else in that ecosystem is borderline perfect, but you have to have a reason to invest in the first place.
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ha nah it's fair but i'm an accountant in ireland working for an insurance firm.
Not that I want to get into it, but I do think the MP side of H5 is significantly underrated, lost as it is in endless 'what is true Halo' chat.
I own all three consoles, including the X version of the Xbox. It's the clear loser of the bunch as far as exclusive content goes, but it gets the most active time in my house. Things I use it for:
Multiplatform titles
Anything that involves connected / internet-based games
Anything that involves multiplayer games
Anything that is a shooter
Gamepass
Web browsing / streaming sports
Apps (Netflix, YouTube, Hulu, Twitch, etc)
Meanwhile the PS4 is only turned on when I want to play PS4 exclusives. And yet I think the PS4 is the obvious choice and obvious winner between the two if a consumer is in a position where they can only choose one. I think OP is right in that the XB1 is a phenomenal console, personally. There should be less hand-waving because although it's not the #1 purchase for a one-console household, it gets the most mileage in a multi-console household.
Multiplatform titles
Anything that involves connected / internet-based games
Anything that involves multiplayer games
Anything that is a shooter
Gamepass
Web browsing / streaming sports
Apps (Netflix, YouTube, Hulu, Twitch, etc)
Meanwhile the PS4 is only turned on when I want to play PS4 exclusives. And yet I think the PS4 is the obvious choice and obvious winner between the two if a consumer is in a position where they can only choose one. I think OP is right in that the XB1 is a phenomenal console, personally. There should be less hand-waving because although it's not the #1 purchase for a one-console household, it gets the most mileage in a multi-console household.
Same actually - PS4 Pro has become my Exclusive Games Console - And Fighting Games.
The rest I buy on Xbox One - And they really do work and look best on Xbox One X - :)
Mixed Bag for me ,the way they pivoted from the Kinect Fiasco to being Gamepass centric is remarkable though.
Positives:
+Services ( Gamepass)
+Back Compat
+Nice End to the gen ( 2020 has a lot of nice exclusives for Xbox)
+Hardware ( Elite Controller 1/2, Xbox One X, Xbox One S, Xbox Adaptive Controller, Design Lab)
+Good Studio Acquistion
+Minecraft
+Games as a Service really hit home later on in the gen ( SoT, SoD2, Gears 4/5, Halo 5/Wars 2, FH3/4 etc.)
+Low Entry points ( Xbox SAD at 149$ etc.)
Negatives:
- Lack of Exclusives (For most of the gen)
- Too many games at less than 1080p and crappy framerates
- Kinect
- Not enough Japanese games till late in the gen ( Nioh, Nier, Yakuza, Persona. FFXIV etc)
If we are talking comeback story after an awful launch, I'd still have to say PS3 ultimately did that better. PS3 came back to selling roughly the same as the 360 (I've heard slightly more and even slightly less, not 100% on this). They did this mainly by making some of the best games of the generation. Nintendo in my book is having a generational masterclass with the Switch by combining their console and handheld into one. They came out swinging with Breath of the Wild, a true masterpiece and evolution of its genre. The Switch could very well surpass the PS4 at its current rate. I will say that with the XB1X and game pass they provided the best console for multi platform games. I think they deserve a lot of credit for that. Masterclass in a console generation? I think you need a complete vision from launch day and execute it to the highest standard.
...Did you actually play this in 2014? It was completely broken.
That's totally fair - people like different things and there's no accounting for that. I think the issue is that when you set out to argue a contentious point like this (most people ITT seem disagree with your general premise) you have to back it up with more than your own personal preferences, otherwise, it won't be taken seriously.
Thats what I meant, still missing some games like Nioh 2, Persona, Bayonetta 3 etc.
This is the most NeoGAF OP I have seen in a loooong time.
Its the best multiplayer the series has ever had. And I really mean that.
I think Xbox One is the most impressive turnaround I have seen from a console.
The launch of this thing was rough, but in the past few years things have turned around for it and it is a true quality platform now.
All my favorite things about the platfrom right now are things that were not there at launch.
-Game Pass. I mean, what a deal. Love this service and the direction its taking Xbox. May even get a Series X at launch off of this alone.
-The Xbox One X. The power boost and build quality this box offers is amazing. My PS4 Pro meanwhile sounds like it is going to take off and fly away.
-Xbox Play Anywhere. The ability to buy a game once and get the Xbox and PC version with seamless cloud save is great. I can play Forza on my couch with a controller or on PC with a wheel with the same campaign progress being carried over.
All in all, I still think PS4 and Switch are better platforms due to their better exclusive libraries, but I do love my Xbox.
The launch of this thing was rough, but in the past few years things have turned around for it and it is a true quality platform now.
All my favorite things about the platfrom right now are things that were not there at launch.
-Game Pass. I mean, what a deal. Love this service and the direction its taking Xbox. May even get a Series X at launch off of this alone.
-The Xbox One X. The power boost and build quality this box offers is amazing. My PS4 Pro meanwhile sounds like it is going to take off and fly away.
-Xbox Play Anywhere. The ability to buy a game once and get the Xbox and PC version with seamless cloud save is great. I can play Forza on my couch with a controller or on PC with a wheel with the same campaign progress being carried over.
All in all, I still think PS4 and Switch are better platforms due to their better exclusive libraries, but I do love my Xbox.
For me, the system is clealry better than PS4. Own an Xbox One X and play on it all the time, it's amazing.
The one caveat being, I don't personally believe their first party portfolio was particularly strong this generation and was a huge step down from 360 imo. It's not a huge issue if you play mostly multiplats like me, but that's probably why most people skipped on it after 360 was such a huge success and Sony's strong first party efforts this gen
The one caveat being, I don't personally believe their first party portfolio was particularly strong this generation and was a huge step down from 360 imo. It's not a huge issue if you play mostly multiplats like me, but that's probably why most people skipped on it after 360 was such a huge success and Sony's strong first party efforts this gen
But it's never going to get bayo, persona and maybe even nioh 1 or 2. It's getting Yakuza save ff 14 and already has nier. The list you had just didn't make sense
It was in my opinion the worst Xbox in terms of exclusive games ever. The only good thing that came from them this gen was Gamepass and even that isn't enough for me to care.
Hell, I have a Scorpio edition X1X and I still play my PS4 Pro over it, the system just doesn't do anything for me outside of playing 4K disc movies.
Hell, I have a Scorpio edition X1X and I still play my PS4 Pro over it, the system just doesn't do anything for me outside of playing 4K disc movies.
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In my defense i did go into this in the OP about the Xbox as a whole.
Wasn't really going on specific games, the bloodborne was a throwaway comment for other users who i've had this discussion with outside the forum.
But ultimately everything goes down to personal preference. I've thoroughly enjoyed games in the past that are janky messes but i had fun with them. There's games that are technically great that i just struggled through and it was a chore vs enjoyment.
Ultimately games and the console that play them resonate with me if I've enjoyment on them. And this gen i've had more fun on xbox vs the rest
Hate to say it but this is easily the worst generation for MS. They barely pushed out any first party content. It was a three peat of Halo, Gears, Forza which is embarrassing considering people have been memeing them for that since the late 00s.
Service wise, yeah they're killing it right now, but it's more so because they needed to. It's weird for me, this is my first generation without an Xbox and I don't feel like I've missed anything. Although MS has slightly won me over when they announced they won't be leaving older platforms behind for another couple of years. So with that said I'll be grabbing a One X and a PS5 this holiday. Win/Win for me I guess lol, GP might actually make Xbox my main platform for indies since it's significantly cheaper than what I'm paying on Switch.
Service wise, yeah they're killing it right now, but it's more so because they needed to. It's weird for me, this is my first generation without an Xbox and I don't feel like I've missed anything. Although MS has slightly won me over when they announced they won't be leaving older platforms behind for another couple of years. So with that said I'll be grabbing a One X and a PS5 this holiday. Win/Win for me I guess lol, GP might actually make Xbox my main platform for indies since it's significantly cheaper than what I'm paying on Switch.
Are you just gonna ignore how much of a disaster MCC was at launch? People couldn't play the campaign let alone the mp.
To me, the UI is still clunky and slow. The PS4's ui is just better. And there really aren't a lot of reasons to play xbox. I have an X and i barely play it anymore. PS4 and Switch just have better exclusives and any game on gamepass I can just play it on pc. Its good for 4k blue rays and that is about it. They really need to come up with better exclusives for next gen.
I mean you can actually make the case this was the worst gen for xbox even if they did come back just like last gen was the worst for playstation even though they did come back.
Again, I think that's totally fine: whatever makes you happy as gamer is completely valid. I think for most people it's the reality that claiming something is a 'generational masterclass' implies that it went further and did more than 'Podge on ERA really loved it'.
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Honestly i didnt experience any issues in the Campaign when playing it. Achievements didnt pop but that's hardly a game breaker.
you traded a once in a lifetime game for a console upgrade? I'd take the games anyd
they have released some good games, and it's gotten better. Games are subjective so if they're better to you (while also playing the others to compare) then that's great. They aren't better than Nintendo or Sony exclusives for me tho, in both quality and quantity.
I agree. FH4's weird campaign intro messed up progression imo but yeah it's great. Their one great series this gen imo.
They've gotten a few and that's good. The key is getting them day one with PS4/ps5/switch going forward which is not something I have confidence in. They still miss out on Persona, Dragon Quest, etc. but Yakuza and KH ports are a good step
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Nah that's fair.
I did a rough overshot of how i felt they went from bust to considerably better over the last 6/7 years. ]
Like to me Sony played it relatively steady. They came out brilliant no doubt but they never really went above and beyond that. PSVR is a phenomal piece of equipment however.
The only games that may be best in class are the forza horizon games and ori is up there, the rest of are underwhelming to bad, Halo 5 is a straight up bad game and easily one that has hurt the halo series which who knows if it will recover with halo infinite, That's not even touching the quality of exclusives they were against.
They really haven't bounced back other than some goodwill but there's still a lot up in the air and it's not looking like the slamdunk your saying it is.
MS games output this gen is very underrated, Forza Horizon is the best series in the genre. Sea of Thieves is amazing, Quantum Break has the quality of Uncharted 4 imo and how both were received is baffling to me. Games like Ori and Cuphead are unique and MS should have some merit on those games, but I understand how Gears and Halo aren't enough to bring people over like before.
People talk about how the PS3 was the best recovery in a gen ever and I don't agree with that, the damage MS has caused in 2013 was way bigger than the PS3 had back in the day, even though the success of the PS3 was bigger in the end.
People talk about how the PS3 was the best recovery in a gen ever and I don't agree with that, the damage MS has caused in 2013 was way bigger than the PS3 had back in the day, even though the success of the PS3 was bigger in the end.
Its been like 10 years since the last Fable game, so XBO fails its assignment of delivering enjoyment to me.
Maybe it can retake the Masterclass next year.
Maybe it can retake the Masterclass next year.
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