Me too I think. Paid it to start with for the servers, then paid it for the free games, and now I get it "free" with GPU.
This. I know paying for online sucks, but companies won't invest a huge amount of money into it otherwise and in the case of XBL, it was the service that changed the standard a user expects out of a online service on console. Nothing was like it, even though PS2 had online already. But it was in shambles.
I hear you, but can we talk about what online would've been without XBL (and Halo) setting a new standard, too? Because those two are linked together.
Yeah, this is the biggest sticking point in MS's whole play how you want where you want strategy. PC players get all the same games and all the same social features but they don't have to pay the MS online tax. MS also already makes a ton more money off of a console gamer than a PC gamer even without Xbox Live. It always sucked to have to pay for online but now that they're trying to give the same experience on console and PC but only charging console extra it's even worse.
Not for lack of trying. The problem is that on PC players can just go somewhere else and play for free. Offering a "new" service to people that's similar to what they already have but you are charging money and the existing alternatives are free is not a great way to get started.
Not really? The video criticizes Sony and Nintendo for following in Microsoft's footsteps (also calls out PS3 PSN for the joke that it was, and Nintendo's online for being, well, Nintendo's online). It has problems but it's not biased.this is purely xbox bashing and console war baiting.
It was a long time ago so it's kinda fuzzy, but IIRC it was a one-time fee for the equipment (demo discs, headset, some other stuff) of like $25 and not a monthly fee. I could be wrong though.
The only justification I have seen for this is they subdize the hardware.
IIRC it came with 12 months of live but aftter that you had to renew it.
That makes sense. I definitely remember having to give a credit card number and it eventually being charged monthly. Still have my 1st wave beta kit, wonder if it's worth anything now...
Eh, the 30% cut from every piece of 3rd party content sold more than subsidizes whatever loss (if any) they take on hardware sales.
A lot of Era hate Jim and make it their mission to turn every thread about their videos into a shitshow.
