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Xbox Game Studios |OT6| I'M BACK (TO RISE)
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Digital Extremes (Warframe) is a lot more profitable than Splash Damage. In Leyou's financials for the first six months of this year they reported assets worth ~$65 million in the UK (which I think is mostly Splash Damage) and ~$70 million in Canada (which I think is mostly Digital Extremes). Meanwhile ~$90 million of revenue was generated in Canada and ~$12 million was generated in the UK.
But I can see Splash Damage being acquired by MS regardless of who takes over Leyou. Splash Damage have a ton of experience working with XGS games, which is highly valuable for MS but much less valuable for another company.
Certain Affinity (valued at ~$50 million) seem more diversified, as they have one team working on Transformers for Leyou and another team working on a new IP (The Last Expedition).
The actual sales price would be much higher than the asset value of the studios itself though, especially for a studio who own a successful IP like Digital Extremes. At the start of the year Leyou was planning to sell 30% of Digital Extremes Canadian parent company for ~$350 million, which would value Digital Extremes at around ~$1 billion, although that deal never went through.
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They should really add Asobo and Iron Galaxy to that list for sure
I still find it really weird to see Double Fine there. Can't wait for Psychonauts 2!
Sadly, I don't have a PC to take advantage of PSNOW. Waiting for it to come to iOS.
I'm so mad that no one has mentioned Outer Wilds, one of the best games of the generation, in this pissing contest. :p
You're all the worst.
I need to give it another shot. Barely played it. Flying the ship aggravated the shit out of me and I gave up quick.
It's not my fault you used the quantum asterisk. :p
Oh really? It took me a bit to get the hang of it, but it wasn't that hard for me after maybe 10-15 minutes. Still tricky for those really precise maneuvers, but a little bit of deliberate practice gets you the basics. At the very least, the pain of learning the controls is worth it when you understand why they have to be convoluted later on.
Probably not. BenjiSales said that TOW on PS4 significantly outsold the game on Xbox One, but that's more due to Game Pass than anything else. I wouldn't be surprised if more played on Xbox once GP is taken into account.
Also, Booty said he thinks Outer Worlds has the potential to be a pillar Microsoft franchise with Forza, Halo, Gears and (when it gets resurrected) Fable.
EDIT: This response is also likely what MS wants and they hope the same for Psychonauts 2 and Wasteland 3. Being honest, if I had a PS4, I would probably buy into a Scarlett for Outer Worlds. The reason I got an Xbox One last year in the first place was GamePass and the not so secret Obsidian reports. I didn't want to miss out on some of my favorite devs.
Looking very exciting for the games to come in the next few years.
Picking one studio by each horizontal row I'd go...
Rare: More SoT content and a new ip is very exciting.
343i: Cant wait for more Halo infinite and to see how they finish off MCC
Playground games: New FH and the other game they've been working has got me hyped up.
Imagine Coalition making the mainline games a mix between turn-based strategy games and third-person action combat.
I wouldn't be mad. On paper, it actually sounds quite cool and kinda fits with the new encounter design they used in Gears 5. If you didn't feel the difference, the AI doesn't really flank you that often when going into the obvious looking arena but instead you see the enemies already being in the area very similar to Halo games. Gears Tactics seems to be their experiment with the strategy genre and it's funny but this game should've been made a decade ago honestly. The cover-based gameplay is a core element to the Gears DNA and you can't really go away from that.
I'm really curious where Coalition is bringing the series into and they pretty much nailed the direction in Gears 5 with an emphasis on characters and a more personal story, unlike past titles. The thing I like the most is how they're able to blend old and new into something that just makes me super excited as a fan of the series. Bringing people like Clayton and Paduk back and adding new characters that still fit the Gears-like universe (Fahz in particular).
Art direction has been talked about prominently but it can't be understated how gorgeous the art direction for this game was. It's again the perfect blend between old and new. Destroyed beauty, dank old labs and that mixed with the sense of exploration via the new areas such as Vasgar. It's funny when you think that some concept artists who have experience from working on Bioshock Infinite did help out on the game.
I know some will feel the opposite but I really don't care where this franchise is heading as long as we're seeing new stuff in a universe that's just so exciting. From the looks of it, we are far from done with Gears and that rocks.
Also, I bought the Jack-o-Lantern skins in Gears 5. No regrets!
I couldn't agree with you more. They need to be sure to keep McNulty and Danton here because their imagery came through spectacularly in Gears 5 and these concept images are damn gorgeous. I'm hoping for a much more grand and bigger Gears 6.
I was looking through the credits of Gears 5 and was surprised by how many contractors worked on it. For example, Jamie McNulty is working for The Coalition, but Greg Danton is listed as working for Mighty Canvas. Seems like their leads / directors are mostly working for The Coalition (with a few exceptions) but most artists and animators are contractors. I guess it's logical for a studio that is mostly working on a single franchise which might want to flexibly scale up/down.
Also I wasn't aware that Behaviour Interactive worked on the game too. https://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox-one/gears-5/credits
Also I wasn't aware that Behaviour Interactive worked on the game too. https://www.mobygames.com/game/xbox-one/gears-5/credits
The Outer Worlds at #4 in the Uk Charts and still 22% sales on Xbox despite having it available on gamepass is not too bad actually.
The CoD split is a good comparison to get an idea of the gamepass impact there we have 38% sales on Xbox.
The CoD split is a good comparison to get an idea of the gamepass impact there we have 38% sales on Xbox.
Uk isn't a good Comparsion anymore the Digital is not calculated is not included for Both platforms
The charts are for boxed sales only obviously so with digital sales the game would be even more successful.
I hope we will get an announcment on how many players played the game in its first week.
I think it has a 50:50 chance. Microsoft is kinda moving away from having exclusives to sell a box.
They released their games on Steam and Switch in this generation.
Why wouldn't they release the sequel of a multiplatform game on other platforms? Didn't Booty or Phil also say, it's up to the devs where they want to release their games? Don't know why Obsidian wouldn't want to release the game on a playstation system when they obviously have a lot of fans there who are buying TOW right now.
Though, all other Obsidian games will probably remain exclusive.
Man I would b sooo down for another KOTOR, but I sincerely doubt it will happen in the near future.
On the plus side a fully fledged Pillars of Eternity game has me super excited, would be Skyrim but with excellent writing.
Damn Klob, these posters are magnificent. To think its going to get bigger this time next year no doubt.
Black Friday is probbaly the best bet. Sure we are a tear from Scarlett but the trade in value will still be solid when it launches. And all your games and accessories will work.
Theoretically MS could buy the stake in CA and the option they have for the rest of the studio, I dont think that is an unlikely scenario if they were to be looking to get them, but unfortunately I suspect the entire lot will end up with Tencent or some other lame company.
Regardless of the nonsense/hot air surrounding the true 1st party nature of this game, you can tell that the new studios have injected a higher degree of positivity around Xbox generally. It must be a much more positive place to work at the moment. The marketing people will find it much easier promoting a game that is genuinely good/great. Everyone seems to be having a great time.
I do think we'll be coming to the end of the "acquisition phase" soon. In all likelihood if they get to a place of satisfaction, even if they remain open to future purchases, it would be beneficial for Xbox to publicly announce something like:
"We'll always be open to an opportunity when it makes sense, but at this stage we feel like we have reached a point where we are happy with what we have. With that in mind we'll be focusing on showing you what our studios are working on in future, so don't expect acquisition announcements at each E3 or XO going forwards". Otherwise every event where there are no announcements, people are going to be disappointing.
They have well over 20 discreet teams working on games around the clock now. At a cadence of around 3 years per game, that's going to be 7 Xbox studios games a year. That is fantastic output. That is event taking in consideration the fat that some games e.g. halo Infinite, will take longer.
343 - One "main" team - side projects bringing in outside studio support
Coalition - One "main" team - side projects bringing in outside studio support
Turn 10 - One team
Playground - Two teams
Ninja Theory - Two teams
Obsidian - three/four teams
InExile - 2 teams
Rare- 2 teams
Mojang- 1 team
Double fine- 2 teams
Undead labs- 1 team
The Initiative- 1 team
Compulsion -1 team
Age of empire studio- 1 team
Add to that the extra stuff brought in from Global Publishing...that's at least 1 game a year.
That's about 22/23 teams minimum working full-time for Xbox Studios, as we speak.
I do think we'll be coming to the end of the "acquisition phase" soon. In all likelihood if they get to a place of satisfaction, even if they remain open to future purchases, it would be beneficial for Xbox to publicly announce something like:
"We'll always be open to an opportunity when it makes sense, but at this stage we feel like we have reached a point where we are happy with what we have. With that in mind we'll be focusing on showing you what our studios are working on in future, so don't expect acquisition announcements at each E3 or XO going forwards". Otherwise every event where there are no announcements, people are going to be disappointing.
They have well over 20 discreet teams working on games around the clock now. At a cadence of around 3 years per game, that's going to be 7 Xbox studios games a year. That is fantastic output. That is event taking in consideration the fat that some games e.g. halo Infinite, will take longer.
343 - One "main" team - side projects bringing in outside studio support
Coalition - One "main" team - side projects bringing in outside studio support
Turn 10 - One team
Playground - Two teams
Ninja Theory - Two teams
Obsidian - three/four teams
InExile - 2 teams
Rare- 2 teams
Mojang- 1 team
Double fine- 2 teams
Undead labs- 1 team
The Initiative- 1 team
Compulsion -1 team
Age of empire studio- 1 team
Add to that the extra stuff brought in from Global Publishing...that's at least 1 game a year.
That's about 22/23 teams minimum working full-time for Xbox Studios, as we speak.
It seems like it's been a little murky but are we expecting acquisition announcements at XO19, or are they going to come out when they are announced just as they happen?
I think Klobrille has said that there's good chance of one acquisition at XO19.
The acquisitions (as press conference announcements)will probably end by Next E3 with the Scarlett reveal. I see them adding 2 more studios in the next year, tops. One of them being a Japanese studio that likely isn't happening until next year. I think that would make a nice E3 announcement along with a Scarlett reveal that hopefully has 1-2 other Global Publishing titles from other Japanese devs (Capcom?).
They need to find a cleaner too, getting a bit cobwebby in the office.
In a followup tweet, Nakamura added, "I want to see simply great games and games that gamers want to play be developed. I don't understand budgets and politics. I just want to continue to be a creator that can say that great things are great. Okami is one of those that have the power to overcome all of that."
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