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I disagree. About the publisher part, I don't think that's necessary because Google isn't gonna take it there.
Says who? You don't know what Google will do to get in this market. What about Amazon? Should MS and Sony (for that matter) wait until the others act? Heck no, that's how you end up missing the boat. I don't think MS is going to miss the boat this time. They may start the boat!
Remember when Google bought Motorola in 2012 literally for patents then sold them off 2 years later? That's what buying a publisher would be. Stadia is a streaming platform you don't really need a publishing arm you need IP and I think that they know the Motorola thing was stupid. I don't see google buying a publisher when moneyhatying works just as well. I don't see MS buying a publisher either. IMO it's just doesn't fit.
Aside from Zenimax online what doesn't MS already have an answer for that Zenimax could offer? Bethesda? Obsidian. MachineGames? 343. Arkane? Compulsion. Rare can make anything, and Ninja Theory again can be broad in what they do.
hmm didn't see this mentioned from the xcloud session:
not surprising I guess that they might do that but first I have seen them talk about streaming games that are not on xbox one.
also looks like a more mobile friendly save system.
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They have studios who have created iconic characters and worlds, which MS are lacking.
Nothing wrong with adding more world class devs either, and the studios at Zenimax are exactly that
Microsoft is not going to spend the billions of dollars it would take to purchase Zenimax
Then someone else will namely Google and get the devs required to take streaming to the masses
Tencent
Amazon
Apple
Microsoft
Sony
Nintendo
The first acquiring a publisher will start the acquisition war.
Apple and Microsoft are the top with more cash in hand.
They can buy Nintendo or EA tomorrow if they want.
So it's IP. Again it's fine to want established IP. But that alone doesn't make it a good purchase. MS doesn't need to do it. The other purchases were necessary to fill out the portfolio, plus helping awesome devs stay in the fight. Zenimax is gonna be fine, probably even better if they are left alone.
Not just the IP which is worth its own weight in gold but they get the studios who have experience in launching new IP and having huge success.
Like I said if MS hesitate Google or someone else will just do it and see huge rewards
I think it has better options than Zenimax, it would be very expensive and I do not see IPs so strong as to compensate for this value. You can buy several good studios for less. Take Two, Capcom, Sega are Publishers that would cost less and give you more valuable IPs.
though in one swoop microsoft would become the top FPS and RPG developer on the planet.
I personally think there's not much chance of it happening but they are the only major publisher that is completely private which makes the dynamics of a buyout much different than a public company
pls stop wishing for publishers to be acquired
pls pls pls
are you actually comparing compulsion to arkane? they made one pseudo immersive sim with awful level design and structure and you are comparing them to the guys who made PREY?
lol
i'm pretty sure take two is way more valuable than zenimax in the stock market and also in what would equate to pure cash (for buying and etc)
pls pls pls
are you actually comparing compulsion to arkane? they made one pseudo immersive sim with awful level design and structure and you are comparing them to the guys who made PREY?
lol
i'm pretty sure take two is way more valuable than zenimax in the stock market and also in what would equate to pure cash (for buying and etc)
MS won't bu Zenimax. The only reason it could happen: Zenimax is a private Company and that would make a purchase way easier than Take Two, EA or so on. But it would be way too expensive. And yeah, I don't think that Klobrille tried to hint to Todd Howard. And if his reference was the lies, how about Hello Games?
Zenimax isn't going to be too expensive, tbh. $4-5 billion would be more than enough to buy them in my mind. Maybe even less.
Yeah, you'll say $5 billion is a lot. But Microsoft is sitting on $150 billion. $5 billion isn't very much to them.
I'm 1000% sure that Klobrille is not trying to get you to think about developers associated with lying. I'm gonna go out on a limb and suggest we should probably stop associating any devs, including Hello (or Bethesda or Peter Molynieux), with "lying". It's just not a very helpful label.
I also don't think buying publishers is the way to go. A platform holder taking too much control of the industry is inherently threatening to third party partners. Aggressively moving on other players in the space would be a huge red flag. It's a bad look, and I don't want MS to go down that route. Will Google try? Maybe, I doubt it. But even if they do - that doesn't mean it's open season on publishers. MS wants to be a safe haven for developers and publishers and partners of all types. That's what they're doing for Amazon's competitors with cloud services. That's what they are doing with crossplay and dev tools and such in the gaming space now.
Why jeopardize all of that for a few more IPs and a few hundred more employees?
Bethesda is not a 'cool studio' it's a massive publisher which owns many cool studios. Why on earth are people jumping to such wild conclusions?
They wouldn't be jeopardizing shit. There's been many rumours out there that the investment firms have been looking at selling zenimax. They are one case where if they're looking into it, you make sure your name is in the hat. MS cannot just sit by and let someone like Google take the first step because all that will do is allow their foot in the door. The end game for video games will be a lot like the movie industry as they consolidated.
Microsoft spent $26 billion on LinkedIn. What's stopping them buying a big publisher? I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped even half of that to nab someone with a solid amount of giant franchises.
When I think 'cool' in respect to game developers there are only two things I think of:
Platinum
Tomonobu Itagaki
Those are the first things that populate my brain.
Platinum
Tomonobu Itagaki
Those are the first things that populate my brain.
Arkane is awesome, Compulsion has a lot to improve to be on their level
Please let it be Itagaki
(And Mistwalker and grounding Inc)
I doubt there would be any kind of formal deal but I do see Microsoft going with a more store agnostic approach on PC. Putting their games everywhere with xbox live hooks. Wouldn't be surprised to see all of their game services spread out. Like what if Game Pass had a catalog from multiple stores? (That would probably have to be a partnership I guess).
But......wild idea here, what if they did something similar on their console platform. If cloud streaming takes off, that means there is another revenue source in the traditional console space. Sooo what if Microsoft opened up their console to other digital stores provided that they use Azure as their cloud streaming platform. I have been thinking that way ever since they announced that hololens would be an open platform. Now granted, AR is the future of computing and a much bigger market, and they need dev support unlike in gaming but if Windows PCs are an open platform, AR and VR are open platforms, why not consoles as well? Especially when a lot of the consoles played will just be a box in the cloud. (ok technically it wouldn't be truly open like a pc, since Microsoft would tie you to Azure streaming as opposed to another provider, but more open).
Anyway, just a thought. Microsoft probably isn't that nice and would only do that if the market forced them to do it.
Me and my buddy Klobrille was just discussing a possible Acquisition the other day. So was it confirmed Klobrille, c'mon you can tell me..
lol
It doesn't make sense for a well established platform to buy a publisher. People suggesting Bethesda are not thinking things through.
I'm curious how that Global Gaming Asia job listing is going. The job listing seems to be expired so it's either that they might've found someone to take the role of senior director (or other roles) or the thing isn't happening.
Referring to this: https://wccftech.com/microsoft-new-xbox-asia-division/
Referring to this: https://wccftech.com/microsoft-new-xbox-asia-division/
I dont think MS would buy all of Zenimax. They could buy some studios from them that arent performing well enough.
I can see Google doing it though. Google isnt much of a publisher right now. I can see them buying a publisher and merging them with whatever they have currently. Thats if they are serious about Stadia. I dread Google buying a publisher. It could turn into a bidding war. And lets be honest, Zenimax would be better off in MS's hands than Googles. >.>
I can see Google doing it though. Google isnt much of a publisher right now. I can see them buying a publisher and merging them with whatever they have currently. Thats if they are serious about Stadia. I dread Google buying a publisher. It could turn into a bidding war. And lets be honest, Zenimax would be better off in MS's hands than Googles. >.>
Yeah, i'm craving for some more Gears news as well. I think they'll really start pushing it after the E3 showing similar to how FH4's style of marketing went. 2019's really going to be an amazing year for action games.
Sorry for the plug, but it may be of some interest to folk in here!
Trailmakers (previously Project Karoo!) is out TODAY on Xbox Game Preview!
Should be on the store around 16:00 GMT, with it being Game Preview there's also a trial available to check out. If you enjoyed Nuts 'n Bolts, you may well enjoy it!
We're also doing an AMA on the Xbox One Reddit if anyone wants to ask anything regarding the game, game dev, the Press Play days etc.
New Launch Trailer.
Trailmakers (previously Project Karoo!) is out TODAY on Xbox Game Preview!
Should be on the store around 16:00 GMT, with it being Game Preview there's also a trial available to check out. If you enjoyed Nuts 'n Bolts, you may well enjoy it!
We're also doing an AMA on the Xbox One Reddit if anyone wants to ask anything regarding the game, game dev, the Press Play days etc.
New Launch Trailer.
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