Exciting, looks like we might be finally getting a Halo RPG.
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this has been known for a while that some rpg elements will be in infinite
I want a Halo RPG based on decisions and ways to play instead of level up Gear or character, without numbers on the enemies and shit like that.
Something like Mass Effect 3 would be awesome, instead of something like The Witcher 3 or ME1
Meaty campaign, side objectives, larger missions with reactive elements: BIG YEP
Levelling, talent trees, loot: BIG NOPE
Levelling, talent trees, loot: BIG NOPE
Ya Albert Penello said that a value 1080p next gen console could happen, and makes sense for the market. He said that in the next gen thread around 2 weeks ago.
I agee with him. The X attempts to bring Xbox one games to 4K resolution. Lockhart would bring 4K Scarlett games down to 1080p. That's why Lockhart only needs to be 4tf if andaconda is 12tf.
Yes Lockhart could have a weaker gpu than the X but It will have better ram and 4-5x better cpu.the x can't play next gen games because it has a cpu that was garbage 6 years ago in it.
249-299$ 4tf, 3.0ghz zen2 12gbgddr6
499$ 12tf 3.2ghz zen2, 16 gbgddr6
Lockhart would play the same games at a lower resolution. And average joe playing madden or COD doesn't know what's in his box so they won't care if it has a weaker gpu than the X. Average joe never owned an X anyway.
Nice. I'm so looking forward to this. The part about World Design with AAA RPGs has me intrigued. If these RPG elements are Implemented properly it could turn out amazing and bring a lot more fans into the world of Halo.
The idea of RPG elements is cool. I'm expecting maybe some lite crafting or gear upgrades, maybe like upgrading a squad of marines that travels with you. The way Halo 5 ended there are some cool opportunities to make a slightly dirtier Halo game with a little more room for things like that.
I can't think of a good way to work in talent trees or leveling, but then again I'm not a designer at 343.
But there is more to graphics then resolution as well, other graphical detail which wouldn't be inclued on the Lockhart. Xbox One X has super sampling, that is the route they should be going in, doesn't matter if you don't have a 4K tv you are still going to see improvements.
Yes there's more to it that's why i didn't say 3tf Lockhart. The extra tf should be able to handle most of the other requirements.
If they want to get in the 249-299 sweet spot at launch they will do what I'm saying. They won't be able to make a 8tf console and sell it under 349$.
Hahaha. So true. My only complaint is that I have had less exclusives interest me to where I wanted to play them compared to Xbox 360. Going into next gen, im just hoping that more games appeal to me enough to where im interested in playing them.
so long as we get a halo mp game i'm ok with some expansion in the sp arena (but keep the golden tripod)
You will have less exclusives going forward.
Even Switch might get the games.
But they are still MS games.
Listener to the Brad video. With what Phil said at E3 about forward capability, not backwards which left me confused at the time with the wording, and with Brad saying they are trying to add that one to the xbox one so MS will have an infinitely larger install base at launch, makes me think of MS consoles as cell phones/steam boxes.
I can see no more real next gen launches for MS after scarlet and just refreshes every 3 to 4 years, and after 3 refreshes make the oldest version of xbox incompatible like I see with apple mobile games and older iPads.
It's not a bad strategy as long as games are available on the "year 9" model. I can see the next refresh drop in 3 years and the xbox s would be incompatible and leave the x, lock hart, anaconda, and the refresh as the models to play games. Again following same pattern in 6 years dropping the x and leaving the others.
I can see no more real next gen launches for MS after scarlet and just refreshes every 3 to 4 years, and after 3 refreshes make the oldest version of xbox incompatible like I see with apple mobile games and older iPads.
It's not a bad strategy as long as games are available on the "year 9" model. I can see the next refresh drop in 3 years and the xbox s would be incompatible and leave the x, lock hart, anaconda, and the refresh as the models to play games. Again following same pattern in 6 years dropping the x and leaving the others.
Yeah, maybe but since I don't play on PC, I don't count Xbox One exclusives going on PC as no longer being exclusive. For me, they still are. For Switch, I own it but I wouldn't play say Gears 5 or Halo Infinite on it. If Switch gets Xbox One games, until proven otherwise, I believe that they will be the smaller 2D platformers. So for me, the exclusives would still be exclusives.
brad has got to be wrong about lockheart being 4k/60fps. just no way.
also, this is the first i've heard that MS's goals are to match ps5 with power with anaconda and offer a lower end model with lockheart. most speculation is that MS would offer both the low end (@299) and high end (@499) for the gen with ps5 sitting roughly inbetween (@399). begs the question, if he is indeed right, would both anaconda and ps5 target the 399 or the 499 point?
Hey everyone! :) I too have been following this thread for a while and decided to get in on it. All of yous are awesome :) Awesome conversations!
And to be even more honest, while I can understand playing games on PC due to the higher specs but why would anyone want to play a Gears 5 or Halo Infinite on a Switch? Yay...720p...woohoo!!! LMAO.
Joking aside, just hoping for more exclusives that I want to play next gen than I have had this gen which to be honest, should be very easy to do since as of now, it's only three games.
In regards to Lockhart, I think he forgot to mention the graphics complexity in order to achieve that 4K/60fps target he was referring to. But, I think Brad has been wrong on several occasions before.
For the whole next gen console aiming for 4k/60 argument/discussion I think it might be a while before 60 FPS is the standard of all games, not because the consoles can't handle 60 FPS, but because developers tend to prioritize resolution and graphics because that's easier to sell, and it's a lot easier for the average consumer to notice "this game looks amazing" rather than "this game runs very smoothly". The graphics will be better, and maybe even things like physics or AI will be much improved before 60 FPS becomes the minimum standard imo. So I'm not saying it won't be powerful enough to run current games at 4k/60, but rather that saying "aiming for 4k/60" isn't something Microsoft can actually do, outside of maybe some requirement for 1st party devs, but even then that would be unlikely. Game developers will do what they want with the extra power
Also as for the next gen potentially not having a blu ray player, I hope not, even as an almost exclusively digital buyer, the price difference would be, what, $50 or so, pretty much negligible when extrapolated over the entire 5-8 year gen, and for those minimal savings you now have no ability to play any disc games ever. Even if you never buy physical games anymore odds are you have at least some physical games from earlier in the gen, or from the 360 that are backwards compatible, or maybe you get a game as a gift, or a friend comes over with a game of theirs or whatever.. So unless they have some physical to digital conversion service at Microsoft stores or something I don't know if it would actually make sense.
Also as for the next gen potentially not having a blu ray player, I hope not, even as an almost exclusively digital buyer, the price difference would be, what, $50 or so, pretty much negligible when extrapolated over the entire 5-8 year gen, and for those minimal savings you now have no ability to play any disc games ever. Even if you never buy physical games anymore odds are you have at least some physical games from earlier in the gen, or from the 360 that are backwards compatible, or maybe you get a game as a gift, or a friend comes over with a game of theirs or whatever.. So unless they have some physical to digital conversion service at Microsoft stores or something I don't know if it would actually make sense.
He was speculating on what it would be as he hopes anaconda will be targeting 4k60.
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Albert Penello making too much sense. Also like he said if it's a 1080 console it has to be quite a bit cheaper than ps5. Imagine a 249$ Lockhart going up against a 399 ps5. Or a 299$ Lockhart against a 499$ ps5. Like brad sams also just said Lockhart is aiming to be a lot cheaper than the ps5, which to me means more than 100$.
3 and a bit months until we see Halo Infinite, welcome a few new studios to the xbox brand, and more!
I still don't see MS giving up a middle ground "sweet spot" console at $400 to Sony alone. I think MS is dead set at having the power advantage at all costs and will price their high end box at PS5 price no matter how much they lose on consoles at first. Subsidize through Gamepass.
Also, I still believe the One X will be forward compatible.
Also, I still believe the One X will be forward compatible.
What are y'alls favorite games on game pass? I signed up for the deal they had back in February to play Crackdown, and through a series of events I've ended up with 4 months for 2 dollars.
I've played most of the first party games on there already, plus Hellblade. I'm currently playing through We Happy Few right now and despite its numerous technical and design flaws loving it, but there's still 3 months to kill after I finish that.
I've played most of the first party games on there already, plus Hellblade. I'm currently playing through We Happy Few right now and despite its numerous technical and design flaws loving it, but there's still 3 months to kill after I finish that.
Ashen and Mutant Year Zero. Ashen is not just a good game pass game, but one of the best rpg games this generation.
Not a fat chance. The x will stay forward compatible as long as the Og and not a minute longer.
I just have a PC, so I've got limited options. Forza Horizon 4, ReCore, and Halo Wars DE have been my favorites. The first two games I never expected to like.
Still haven't tried Gears 4, Halo Wars 2, We Happy Few, or State of Decay 2.
ReCore is the biggest surprise. There's a lot more depth to the combat systems than I expected, and the platforming is fun. Some metroidvania (what a shit term that is) design present, which is good. The challenge runs are pretty cool. Only critique is the poor performance I've had (aka easily the worst running game on my PC amd its not graphically impressive) and the story/voice acting feels a bit cheap. Overall, I hope this is something Microsoft takes another look at. The foundation is there for a unique franchise.
The single greatest game on Game Pass is Mass Effect. Given the game is 12 years old, you've either played it already or have no interest in it (which I find personally offensive). In which case Cities Skylines is a game I've been addicted to for far too long.
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I'd stay away from We Crappy Doo Doo, other games are fine
It just goes to show the diversity of the Xbox fandom that we even have 8yr old's in here
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