man why the fuck does the archive decide to give you results but not me kinda feels rude idk 😡
The status page has had Xbox Cloud Gaming for months/years.
yeah then it's a nothinburger imo
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yeah then it's a nothinburger imo
Hmm, the earliest it would have been for RDO is May 2021 when it came to GP and left in August of 2021.
The status page has had Xbox Cloud Gaming for months/years.
GTA V was brought back in April 2021 and left in July 2021.
Both had Cloud enabled during those windows so it would make sense it would have been up during those periods on the support site. Suppose they were just too lazy to take it down lol
On subjective tastes I do not argue, in fact I reported only objective arguments and not personal preferences.
I basically summarize the argument:
Xbox with Bethesda and Activision-Blizzard can definitely become the best/biggest publisher out there and I am not referring to subjective Level, I am really referring to objective level in general, according to most of the parameters I mentioned in the previous comment. There will always be someone who will prefer Nintendo or Sony but these are precisely personal considerations.
Of course It is not a given that it will be, there are many parameters and variables to consider, but Xbox+Bethesda and Activision - Blizzard has a really good chance of becoming the best/biggest publisher in circulation.
With only Xbox and Bethesda (if the Activision acquisition is blocked), on the other hand, the chances of it becoming the best/biggest publisher are objectively very low, almost close to zero.
I don't think Xbox and Bethesda can match the overall production/scale of Sony and/or Nintendo output for example.
My reasoning is not focused on a single year, but on the whole generation, of course.
As for next year, we still don't know what Sony can release, they haven't made any announcements about that yet. But there are possibilities of having Spiderman 2, Mlb, Tlou faction, Firewalk and/or Firesprite gaas games and Helldivers 2. Not to mention Vr games. That wouldn't be a bad lineup at all.
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Xbox first party alone was already on pace to be one of the best/biggest publishers this generation. Bethesda just adds a ton of fuel to that raging fire. Activision makes it certain.
Lol... I just don't know how you can believe this. Nintendo's games aren't the same scale as Sony or Xbox. They have a few big ones like BotW but when you look at Nintendo Switch's lineup and take out the Wii U ports, you're left with a few great games but a lot of mediocre stuff like Mario Party games, Mario Sports games, Musou games... This is what I mean by Nintendo releases a lot of mediocre stuff that just gets swept under the rug or elevated higher than it should be because of a few great games and they're really good at branding/marketing.
If Xbox released Mario Strikers, they would get eaten alive.
They said they would have more to share next year about TLOU Faction and shared concept art while having a ton of job listings... I highly doubt that game lands next year. Firewalk is still pretty early in development AFAIK and Firesprite is doing Horizon Call of the Mountain.
I mean like... excluding Activision/Blizzard games... Xbox/Bethesda games that have already released this generation and that have already been announced:
- Flight Simulator
- Halo Infinite
- Forza Horizon 5
- Age of Empires 4
- Psychonauts 2
- (PS5 timed exclusive) Deathloop
- (PS5 timed exclusive) Ghostwire Tokyo
- As Dusk Falls
- Grounded
- Pentiment
- Starfield
- Forza Motorsport
- Ara: History Untold
- Redfall
- Minecraft Legends
- Avowed
- HellBlade 2
- Contraband
- Perfect Dark
- State of Decay 3
- Everwild
- The Outer Worlds 2
- Project: MARA
- Fable
- Indiana Jones
- The Elder Scrolls 6
- Kojima game
- Wolfenstein 3
- Hibiki (Tango)
- Project Dragon (IOI)
- Project Colbalt (inXile)
- New IP from The Coalition
- Gears 6
- One other Minecraft spin-off game
- Double Fine working on multiple games
- Project Midnight (Compulsion's third person action-adventure game)
- Halo Infinite's battle royale
- Project Suerte (Monster Hunter-like game)
- a lot of other stuff
Again, this is also without Diablo 4, Overwatch 2, Call of Duty games, Blizzard's survival game, Toys for Bob's Crash spinoff, etc... Honestly your whole stance just reads to me like "Xbox games don't count because they're not third person narrative games" meme. Xbox is far and away already one of the best/biggest publishers, one rough year doesn't take away from that. Activision just makes it certain they will be the best/biggest.
I wonder if Xbox can get third party companies on board with the added streaming license if they bring down the royalty fees like was rumored to come close to, or match, their PC royalties. It could be a scenario where they say "okay, we are going to lower our royalties on console but the new contracts are also going to say it grants an xCloud streaming license on our platforms."Could be a way for Xbox to make the streaming license a normal part of doing biz across their ecosystems.
I will say that Actiblizz being one of the holdouts on getting any traction on granting a streaming license and now they are under Xbox will put increased focus/pressure on getting the other big holdout (Take Two/Rockstar) to possibly grant those rights going forward if Xbox can now focus on them, as opposed to them and Actiblizz before, and sweeten the pot a bit.
I will say that Actiblizz being one of the holdouts on getting any traction on granting a streaming license and now they are under Xbox will put increased focus/pressure on getting the other big holdout (Take Two/Rockstar) to possibly grant those rights going forward if Xbox can now focus on them, as opposed to them and Actiblizz before, and sweeten the pot a bit.
I thought I read a rumor that they changed their licensing to publish games on Xbox a few years back to give them streaming rights. Not sure if it was real or not.
Now that you say that, I think this might be where the idea came from. I guess I just thought it was my own but now that you say this I remember the convos from awhile back.
The first party lineup will be quite robust, the third party offerings on gamepass will be worse due to significantly increased competition in game subscriptions, people will be mad that WoW subscriptions are still separate from gamepass, other people are still insisting that Call of Duty will go exclusive any day now, and I'm still wondering where the fuck Goldeneye is.
I wonder if the backwards compatibility program will come back once the ActiBlizz acquisition is complete. 🤔
There are several games (Singularity, Wolfenstein 2009, etc.) that were published by Activision and are not available on Xbox Series consoles.
There are several games (Singularity, Wolfenstein 2009, etc.) that were published by Activision and are not available on Xbox Series consoles.
Will be cool if MS bring the licensed Activision games too, but this i think will be very dificult to happen.
If any games weren't BC because of insufficient power, then I also hope they'll revive the program while dropping XBO support.
Obviously ABK opens up a lot of new games from a licensing perspective which is nice.
I would love to see Wolf 09 in BC but I'm not clear if it was licencing stopping it. There's a long, confusing saga about that game being delisted on PC. Pete Hines alleged it wasn't to do with rights/licencing (but he is likely full of sh*t).
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Another obvious alt troll account. No point in engaging with their giant walls of text.
Lol, sometimes when someone a bit sus shows up in here I'll do a quick post history and see what their deal is.
Thanks for saving me the time. 👍
Playing (albeit slowly because as always, playing way too many games at once) A Plague Tale and this game is awesome. Can't wait to see how they improve upon Innocence with Requiem. I'm in Chapter 10 now and having a blast.
Same. I can't wait until Gears 6.
It would be great to get a Gears Collection one day!
Was Forspoken expected to be listed for xCloud?
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This is just the XCloud owned games thing where you swap out the name/id at the end of the URL and it will populate the page. Not indicative that it is coming to Cloud or anything at this time. I created a thread on it with the Rumor of owned games coming to XCloud soonWas Forspoken expected to be listed for xCloud?
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Store page: https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/forspoken/9p3b7mt34dls
An xcloud page is generated for every game on Microsoft Store.Was Forspoken expected to be listed for xCloud?
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Lol WC fell for it
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I think Elden Ring is being used mainly for clicks bc it's popular (plus it was referenced on Reddit and here lols). Klobrille getting the shout when the source was that r/xcloud reddit user tho let's be real 😆Lol WC fell for it
Microsoft: Non-Xbox Game Pass titles seemingly ready to hit Cloud Gaming due to bug [Update]
Your Cloud Gaming library still may grow substantially in the near future.
It's not necessarily falling for it as the strings do seem to indicate some backend placeholders for cloud streaming owned games ("You don't currently own this game. In order to play this game, you will need to purchase the game or a subscription that includes it.")
Yeah the string is definitely the most interesting part. Although I wonder how long thats been a thing….
Deciding who someone thinks is the best will always be subjective. Personally, I much prefer Microsoft's output to Sony's, even before Activision, because I like western RPGs and actively dislike the Ubisoft open world template.
ABK doesn't really change much for me, aside from rare Crash and Spyro releases. I dislike almost everything they do and consider many of their games schemes.
There's no archive URLs with non-game-pass games as far as I can tell by looking. It's all GP stuff so it'll just say "Sign In" on the snapshot 😭
Was Forspoken expected to be listed for xCloud?
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I don't think there's been any hints, but isn't it supposed to be a two year timed exclusive?
It's available on the PC store (that's what the listing is for) but not Xbox consoles. I believe it will hit MS Store day 1 with Steam.
They'll want to sell the streaming rights to these services. Exclusive streaming rights will get them more money as well.
Probably seeing the stupid money going around in the TV world and hoping to get that rype of money.
Yeah, that's almost certainly it and then two years later on Xbox.
I know it's reported that PC games are coming to xCloud, I think by Jez and/or Tom Warren, but has that been followed up on any time soon?
Not really expecting that soon (at least not with owned games) but that could be part of a double whammy announcement for Gamescom.
I know it's stupid and it's pure copium because I'm probably not gonna have a PS5 before Forspoken comes out, and that it showing up with an xCloud banner is just a glitch as a result of a quirk in how xCloud/the store works right now with everything having that same placeholder message, but eh, it's fun to speculate crazy shit
Not really expecting that soon (at least not with owned games) but that could be part of a double whammy announcement for Gamescom.
I know it's stupid and it's pure copium because I'm probably not gonna have a PS5 before Forspoken comes out, and that it showing up with an xCloud banner is just a glitch as a result of a quirk in how xCloud/the store works right now with everything having that same placeholder message, but eh, it's fun to speculate crazy shit
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I never said Xbox+Bethesda would not be one of the biggest/best publishers of the generation. It definitely would have been. I just said it wouldn't be the best. I think publishers like Sony and Nintendo are still superior overall. With the addition of Activision, however, the things are different and there is a high possibility that Xbox could become the biggest/best publisher around. It is not 100% certain, but it could be highly possible.
Nintendo's games are among the biggest, most popular and best-selling in the industry. Games like Mario 3d, Pokemon, Zelda, Mario kart, Animal crossing, Splatoon, Fire emblem, Smash bros etc. sell millions and millions of copies.
Sony and Microsoft+Bethesda
(also counting Activision maybe) don't have many other games of this scale, which can compete at this level.
The Firewalk game has actually been in development for a long time. When the partnership was announced, the game was already playable, I think it has been in development for at least 3 or 4 years as well.
Firesprite has 4 or 5 games in development, Horizon Call of the mountain is only one of them, and only part of the team is working on it.
These are the games already announced and already published by Sony in this generation. And this is considering that, unlike Microsoft, Sony has still announced very little while Microsoft has already announced most of its content.
- Astro Playroom
- Sackboy Adventure
- Spider-Man Miles Morales
- Demon Souls remake
- Destruction all stars
- Ratchet and clank rift apart
- Returnal
- mlb the show 21
- mlb the show 22
- GT7
- Horizon West Forbidden
- God of War Ragnarok
- Tlou part 1
- spiderman 2
- Wolverine
- Horizon The Call of the Mountain
This is the Sony games that are in development and that can be realeased in this generation.
New Santa Monica game
New Naughty Dog game
Insomniac multiplayer game
New Guerrilla game ( Horizon multiplayer game likely)
Ghost of thushima 2
Death stranding 2
Firesprite's Twisted Metal
4 more Firesprite games are in development
New game Housemarque
New game Bluepoint
New game Pixel opulus
New game Team Asobi
New mlb games
Bend studio new ip
New game from London studio
New game Mediamolecule
Haven studio game
Firewalk game
Deviation game
Helldivers 2
Bungie multiple games
Multiple vr games
Maybe a new Uncharted
Maybe silent hill
Other stuff
There are more than 30 games in development.
Again, I never said that Xbox+Bethesda would not be one of the biggest/best publishers of the generation. It definitely would have been. I just said it wouldn't be the best. I think publishers like Sony and/or Nintendo are still superior overall. With the addition of Activision, however, things are different and there is a high possibility that Xbox could become the biggest/best publisher around. It is not 100% certain, but it could be highly possible.
But without Activision-Blizzard i don't think so.
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I don't think PC games coming to XCloud has been rumored or confirmed, but rather MKB support is coming. That's been confirmed in a MS Game Dev youtube seminar thing. It COULD mean Age of Empires 4 is being ported to Xbox and will be playable with MKB over Xcloud but who knows rn
look you're entitled to your opinion, and it's one you obviously care about and have considered, but you won't make many friends in here pretending that it's in any way objective.
I think it will just happen naturally.
A big part about the publishers' beef with GFN is that they were getting *nothing* from Nvidia. Nvidia was just kinda swooping in and using their products in a service they were selling to consumers.
With Xbox it's different. Xbox is a marketplace for publishers' games, and they take the lion's share of the proceeds from the sale of their games via Xbox's store. And as Xcloud / streaming become more prevalent, I think being included on Xcloud will just be part of what it means to sell your games on the Xbox platform. It will be viewed as more akin to local streaming than server-based streaming.
Can/will there be holdouts? Sure. But I think bit by bit publishers will see it as Xbox shouldering all of the costs associated with what amounts to a value-add associated with their product. It'll just be a situation where they'll ultimately want their games to have feature-parity with other games on the platform.
The key thing will be Xbox standing strong with not allowing publishers to make streaming a pay-for feature that only comes with the "Elite" version of the release or requires you to pay a $10 fee to unlock the right. It's fine to make it a game-by-game decision, if they want. But with respect to a title/release, Xbox needs to make it so it's either all-in or all-out.
I can't wait to see what Coalition can do with UE5 on the new hardware, and without needing to rush a title out the door.
They are some graphical wizards. If you didn't do Hivebusters yet, it's fantastic.
In my opinion, if that game wasn't called Gears, it'd be much better received and would have received significantly more attention. That franchise has been washed for a while now.
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