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This is true. Like most ppl would expect forza for example. That would just reiterate another Xbox strategy problem of the holiday stuffers but at least it would be some games from them
It is an
Again, maybe we spent too much time following this stuff in detail. I'm still disappointed about Redfall and Starfield delays, in isolation, but Xbox having an empty
The real shame is that so many of us allowed ourselves to be taken by the hopium lol. And that's also why I'm not falling into this "Wolfenstein 3 and 5 other games are coming soon!" trap now either :p
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Indeed - E3 2018 Phil was publicly referencing Fable. And it was so strongly rumored that he got asked about Fable specifically in the Gerstmann interview that same week.
Xbox E3 2018 Briefing
Tune in to the Xbox E3 briefing live Sunday, June 10 at 1:00pm PDT59:42 - Startyoutu.be
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Such an awesome conf :)
I ain't gonna hold u I expected an empty first half but redfall summer last year played me lol I thought I'd be playing that by like august at least. It's just funny the ONLY two things we had timetables on got the boot same time lol
And yea I'm not on no wolf 3 train lol
Shun the unbeliever! Shun!
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In all seriousness, great posts, totally agree. Games are games, 6 months is slightly sad, move on.
lol yea, I was thinking a couple days ago about the decision to announce the delays this way. Did they just get decided that day and they thought they needed to get the word out ASAP before they had time to prepare anything to soften the blow? Or did they actually plan this for any amount of time? Kinda weird. In many recent cases with an upcoming showing for your game, devs have quietly delayed their games by announcing new dates along with their trailer. Was that not an option here because people did expect Redfall imminently?
Not sure, perhaps. I think the WAY in which it was announced contributed greatly to the angst, much more than the actual idea of the delay IMO. It came without the normal messaging guardrails that help people feel like things are in control and going in a good direction. Oh well. It is what it is. ╮(￣ω￣;)╭
Nooo!! I'm getting shunned as hard from the first party thread as first party games are being shunned from the 2022 lineup!
Personally I would now like agreements with oriental software houses.
However, I also think, that differentiating the offer is the best thing. It's not a bad thing to follow the PC market. There are a lot of players out there who prefer to play on the console but, at the same time, are attracted to the games that often come out on that platform. After all, xbox is not just consoles
Sure. Figured I'll just post it here for everyone since it isn't super active and I had to dig it up.
Note that they have various projects listed as both confirmed and speculation?? I wouldn't put a ton of stock in that stuff, but the list of known projects is good.
Xbox Projects thread [XboxEra]
We really back to exclusives don't matter and trying to handwave first party stuff?
Lol ok….
XBox's 2022 is absolutely disappointing so far and the first party landscape for the rest of the year isn't encouraging. Grounded 1.0? Come on…
2022 and the "holy trinity of XBox" may have to do the heavy lifting AGAIN in the 2nd half? Sure. I'm over it. 🤷🏻♂️
Just for fun, I did a search for posts under my name using the search terms "exclusives" and "overrated". Yes. Returned results where I have said and explained in detail why I think exclusives are overrated in Xbox OT 9, Xbox OT 13, Xbox OT 15, Xbox OT 17, and yes Xbox OT 18 too. That's not including all the times I explained why exclusives are overemphasized in this forum and broader internet discourse, without using the word overrated.
I went back to OT 4, wherein I said the comparably more measured: "I'd be much, much more pleased with 2-3 good to great titles every year regardless of size from 1st party (and personally, I don't even care whether they're exclusive or not)." [Rather than 6 every year] Kinda funny in retrospect lol.
And none of that is even the point here today, where I DIDN'T say exclusives don't matter - just that exclusives ARE NOT THE ONLY GAMES ON MY CONSOLE. HELLO??? (Though, again, yes, exclusives are overrated.)
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The reality is, the year is weak as of now, only the showcase can change that... maybe.
The delay is great for those games, it's bad for this year in general. My take is that they took this path knowing they had other games that could carry the rest of the year somewhat, of course no game will be the size of Starfield, but I refuse to believe they took this bullet completely unprepared for it.
The showcase will tell us all we need to know, I'm keeping my expectations in check right now.
Yeah if this is how it's going to be I think I'll join you and GING-SAMA and peace out till June
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that they shouldn't differentiate the offer and/or ignore the pc market, quite the contrary, actually. What I'm saying is that they should pay more attention to the console market and don't act like it works the same way the pc market works. E.G.: lack of marketing, disregard for the importance of brand recognition, no marketing... Did I already say "no marketing"?
Besides that, I will never understand why, for instance, they chose to develop two (three) RTS spin offs of Halo and Gears. Halo and Gears weren't (aren't?) very popular IPs on pc, and the RTSs they launched were kind of... mh... not on par with the standards of other, more "hardcore", RTS. Plus, that's a genre the console gamers snub and that's not easy to play with a controller. I mean, they try to appeal to both the console gamers and the pc gamers with two product that do not please any of the two player bases.
Also, I'm just pissed off by the fact that they havent' published a Halo RPG, a Halo action adventure based on the Spartn-II program story, a Gears survival horror... lol
Thanks, I think that we should make a comment with all that rumored games (not a copypasta of that link, of course) and get it threadmarked...?
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Good approach! I generally don't allow myself to fall into the "hopium" category. I only "hoped" for Starfield in November because Todd said it was coming! Ugh.
As for folks hopped up on Hopium for things like Wolfenstein 3 or an acquisition announcement (lol!) at the showcase…. well, you only have yourselves to blame when the tears of disappointment roll down your cheeks when these things don't appear. 😆 But hey, if these things actually happen feel free to quote this post and I'll gladly own the "L".
The Starfield letdown has sort of washed its way out of my system now and I'm just ready to embrace whatever Phil and the Xbox team have to show us on June 12th. Can't wait to be a part of the Fleet of Hype. I think folks will be surprised how quickly the good feelings around Xbox can return if its a truly kickass show.
I'm tempted to "pull a GING". Nice weather is here on the west coast and the boat and garden need attention….so….🤔
tell me more about its time period and fictionalized setting
Certified banger. Xbox next big ip ppl watching the wrong games
If Forza is 2023 they should honestly just announce that now. Yeah they haven't said 2022 but if they slap a 2023 on whatever they show, people are going to be talking about that after the presentation. Better to get the disappointment out of the way.
lol its going to be genre defining! (you have to do it right) ;)
The fact that games in general are going to be released throughout the year doesn't mean that Xbox isn't having an awful year so far.
And before you say anything, you can look up my reaction to the Starfield delay and you'll see that I agree with you.
But just pointing to Game Pass and saying therefore all concerns are invalid feels a bit like an attempt to distract from the problem and saying that the only relevant perk are the day 1 releases feels a bit disingenuous, too.
When you say that, you disregard all the different reasons why people subscribe to Game Pass. Everyone has different tastes and Game Pass still isn't at a place where it can even cover most people's preferences. That's why we always have a bunch of people being disappointed by the new announcements every month, simply because it's not at a point where it can please everyone. Not to mention that there are absolutely subscription filler games you can also get everywhere else if you wait a bit or already got in the past. My EGS library is pretty big and I don't think I have bought a single game on that store.
And with these thoughts in the back of your mind, I have no idea how you can look at this
and genuinely say "I don't understand the concern, it's gonna be great!". Because to me, with neither Stalker 2 nor Atomic Heart likely releasing this year, this looks kinda dreadful and if I wasn't subscribed until early 2024, I'd definitely cancel my subscription after playing through Plague Tale and maybe pick it back up to try out Forza, whenever that comes out.
And all that doesn't even go into day 1 first-party releases supposedly being the main draw of Game Pass and why a lot of people have subscribed to it in the first place.
So, please, let's not be dismissive of others and mock their tone just because you're fine with the situation.
At least there's Wolfenstein 3 coming out later this year.
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Seems like it did pretty good tbh. 4 million for a new IP plus the Game Pass money is a nice beginning. Means lots of people played it. So, hopefully a sequel can build on that base.
Happy for Obsidian and excited to see what a higher budget (just speculation) sequel will look like.
I can't speak to anything about Obsidian or other studios, but Microsoft overall is not mandating anything about work arrangements. It's entirely up to each organization and team to decide what works best for them.
My group, for example, is 100% flexible right now. Some people are 100% remote, maybe even living remotely, others choose to come into the office multiple days per week, I personally just come in one day per week usually and occasionally come in other days.
Some organizations / studios might decide differently, but even within an organization or studio which decides that some people must / should be back at the office <x> days/week, there's always room for exceptions for various reasons.
I have no doubt it will, and yeah good sales numbers even with GP
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