The HDR part specifically speaks about 'all games'.
The pessimist in me suspects that the auto-hdr will be very similar to sdr-to-hdr conversion most televions already can do.
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Xbox Details Their Backwards Compatibility Plans Including System-Level HDR and Doubling the Target Framerates/Resolution of Select Games
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The pessimist in me suspects that the auto-hdr will be very similar to sdr-to-hdr conversion most televions already can do.
What they're talking about in terms of letting the game run on the full CPU/GPU at full speed...is exactly what the PS4 Pro boost mode was.
If they're recompiling every game for a XSX environment that would be different. But otherwise I don't see the distinction they're making.
The HDR and select framerate doubling are definitely extras we haven't seen before in BC, the latter in particular should be very sweet.
Literally always boost mode...
I'll be interesting to see the HDR implementation, lots of TVs and blu-ray players do HDR conversion on SDR and the results are kind of wonky since it can highlight random scenes that don't need it, and put weird highlights on people's faces.
I thought boost mode was just a dig at Sonys variable clocks like the downclock statement is.
they're really knocking it out of the park with the Series X. every time they share more info the console becomes more enticing to me and I have absolutely no interest in MS's 1st party output, though that could change with all their semi recent acquisitions. I expected MS to bring their A-game this gen and they still managed to exceed expectations. it's really something.
That's not the case. It uses machine learning that was trained on how Gears 5 implemented HDR, and it can then apply it to other games. Check EvilBoris' post here
It is.
They're just saying that the XSX always uses its max power no matter what, implying their competitor isn't doing it (regardless of whether they do it for BC or not).
I realize that everyone likes the new games coming on all platforms, but man this is just next level awesome for the thousands of games coming over to be played at their best to include even some titles with doubling of frame rates which is just insanely cool!
For a while I had been thinking I'd just end up getting a PS5 and playing Xbox games on PC this generation, but this is the kind of thing that makes me really reconsider that. I'll have to see how this plays out in reality and maybe wait for the first console revision but I figure at some point I'm actually gonna have to end up getting a new Xbox.
Microsofts dedication to bc is to be commended. And with gamepass being the rock Xbox is now built on its almost a requirement tbh. Gives new people a jumping on point. But with all that said a next gen platform also need to bring next gen experiences.
Said it before but for all the talk of teraflops and bla bla bla, this right here is where Microsoft/Xbox are seemingly running rings around the competition.
I really hope the SX is a huge success, they deserve it because of things like this and Gamepass.
I really hope the SX is a huge success, they deserve it because of things like this and Gamepass.
That would be amazing. Hopefully that's one of the select games, at least at the beginning.
Yeah , I would imagine we will have similar things in certain titles, if there is pure white or clipping in the sky (360 era games with tons of bloom are guilty of this) then it can look wonky.
Some titles however can look super good if they were exposed well to begin with. I suspect that the early 360 games that had HDR added were using an early version of this.
Halo 3 and Mirrors edge both massively benefit from it.
I wonder if they will make this a toggle for games or if they have vetted each game.
The chances are they will have a
Few different variants of the AI's output to use, so they may be able to match up less intense versions for games that perhaps did have a lot of white clipping.
I think I heard in a recent podcast with Phil Spencer that the backwards compatibility team are working in raising the dead next.
They just want people to make a good choice, there's nothing wrong with that.
Thanks for stating the obvious. LOL One doesn't negate the other.
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All games without HDR will have the ability to have HDR added at the launch of the Series X as that is a system level option.
The select games getting updated is for the upped resolution and framerate past what the game originally was.
I think they're actually referring to "legacy" mode (not boost) that PS5 is using for PS4 BC, that slows the system down to ensure compatibility. Unless of course a game is BC enhanced for PS5.
Sounds nice but until we actually see this implemented, this is just marketing hype. If this lives up to the promise, awesome, but I'll withhold excitement until then.
They should know that Cerny has said that PS5 - even though it says variable frequency, they are almost always at full speed as he said at his presentation.
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Digital foundry article says Series X runs at 3.6Ghz with 8 cores and SMT, or 3.8Ghz with 8 cores only, and for backwards compatibility the old games don't use SMT so they want to run them all at 3.8Ghz. I don't think they'll be that much difference given the 0.2ghz frequency but it is technically 'maxing' the console out.
I wish they'd confirm that they're resuming adding more games to BC. I mean most likely they are, but confirmation would be nice.
Didn't they purposefully cut off the addition of new Back Compat games for the sole purpose of focusing on improving performance going forward and ensuring compatibility going forward?
Original Splinter Cell is already 4K on One X, unless you mean 60fps?
That would make more sense, but is a bit confusing!
They'd want to be very confident of zero compatibility problems to dispose of some kind of 'legacy mode', even if it's not exposed to the user. No harm to keep it in your back pocket. But I guess the results they've seen so far are encouraging.
I mean, it's a pretty obvious dig at Sony. People should keep the same energy when Sony eventually fires back.
I could live without the little pr swipes, but I strongly approve of the XB team's back compat efforts over the last ~5-6 years and am looking forward to seeing what they can do with even more power. Hoping that there are a fair few games pushed to 60 or beyond (even though I understand the technical limitations means that it's probably only a small fraction that will run without errors there).
I think they've been busy trying to ensure all Xbox One games work on XSX before they start adding more of the 360/Original Xbox games. Perhaps they will go back once the work on Xbox One games is complete, they have hinted at doing that in the past.
We can say that about any announcement from any of the big three until we get hands-on.
It's not confirmation but at the bottom of their article they said,
Agreed. My main reason for purchasing an X was for the 4K BC. It's going to be tough on deciding which next-gen console to purchase first since both are really tempting.
