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Xbox controller is still probably the most ergonomic, all around best controller in existence, but holy shit, they need to add haptics. Rumble suuucks
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Meh. I have a PS5 and Astro. It's neat, but the fact that the controller wants to touch me back doesn't really change much for me. It's just kinda...neat, but inconsequential.
I find it neat on my PS5 but it's so down the list of what matters to me that I don't really care. It only ever matters to me in racing games, which Xbox rumble does very well anyway, and even then I prefer to play those on my wheel.
So, sure, nothing against getting better haptics on Xbox, but not really bothered either way.
I did feel similar to what you're describing when transitioning from X360 to X1, because I find trigger rumble indispensible in racing games now, so it's hard going back. So I kinda get it.
So, sure, nothing against getting better haptics on Xbox, but not really bothered either way.
I did feel similar to what you're describing when transitioning from X360 to X1, because I find trigger rumble indispensible in racing games now, so it's hard going back. So I kinda get it.
I play Switch games w/ Hori split pads that have no rumble, and many of those games still end up ranking up there on my GOTY lists year over year. Has nothing to do with how a controller shakes. It's a nice feature, and the DualSense haptics are impressive when done well, but it's not something I prioritize as part of the overall experience. Battery life on the DualSense is easily its most disappointing quality, and when haptics are prevalent, I find myself having to charge it every day, sometimes more on weekends.
If you ask me, the Xbox controller rumble effects can be great if devs are willing to put some effort in. Yesterday I was playing the first Project Cars on my Series X. I was surprised how genuinely great it felt. I don't have a PS5 but this came close to how I imagine the PS5 controller haptics are. I get the impression a lot of devs seem to copy paste generic rumble settings, or don't properly explore the possibilities.
No. I know I can't rely on these companies to put decent quality lithium rechargeable batteries in these devices. Would rather take this out of their hands and be able to replace the batteries myself.
The DS4 is annoying in this regard. I use it for PC games and while it's great from a latency point of view, the built in battery sucks.
I like what they did with the 8bitdo Pro Controller 2. It gives you the option to use a replaceable battery pack that comes with the controller, or you can just take it out and use batteries instead. I've never even used the battery pack with the controller. I immediately started using rechargeable AA's when I got it.
I never have a comfort problem with either the Xbox or dualsense, but the difference in quality this gen is huge. To go from loud clicky, plastic cheap feel of the XS controller to the Dualsense just shows how good the DS is in comparison.
And that's before we take in to account the button register problem on the xs controller to contend with. My THIRD controller is now fucking up. So yeah, I'm really hoping they're doing something about their quality issues as well as adding haptics.
And that's before we take in to account the button register problem on the xs controller to contend with. My THIRD controller is now fucking up. So yeah, I'm really hoping they're doing something about their quality issues as well as adding haptics.
https://www.xbox.com/en-NZ/accessories/batteries-chargers/play-and-charge-kit Works on any Xbox One/Series controller. Charges through the controller. You've had this option since the Xbox 360.
the idea is not to pay for MORE stuff after buying a console in a place of the world where they are already overpriced
but this link reminds me ... does the 360 play and charge work with the series controller ?
Seems more like an e-waste potential to me. People should only buy the batteries and cables they need, rather than just adding more to the pile. For example, some people like myself already have perfectly good eneloops. Coming with the battery pack would be entirely redundant to me.
Nah. Entirely different form factor, and I believe the electronics are different as well. Only the One & Series are cross compatible.
People calling for a rechargable battery are fucking loony. Buy rechargable AAs for crying out loud.
Even more with how terrible the rechargable battery in the PS5 controller is I dont need another controller that constant needs charging and sometimes dont even manage a full night of gaming. And i cant do anything about it. It sucks.
I'm almost certainly getting a DualSense for my PC the next time I need a controller despite the compatibility issues. I just won't buy a controller without gyro at this point, and the haptics seem good too.
I've owned my SX for over 100 days now. Not once it that time did I have to reposition my thumbs on the analogues, like I've often had to with the DualSense and DualShock 4. But yes. The rumble is very bad indeed. So bad, in fact, that I've turned it completely off for the past few weeks, and I don't miss it one bit. (Going back to DualSense when I start HFW is gonna be epic lol)
Yeah I agree once it gets haptic, and better d-pad lol it'll be the best controller. I'd love to say Dual sense is my favorite but controller hurts my hands after a few hours.
have you tried WRC 9 or 10?
that series feels amazing with the Dualsense.
Footstep haptics are the worst thing to come out of this gen of consoles. Genuinely game ruining for me, I actually repurchased one game I bought on PS5 on my Xbox as the footsteps haptics made it unplayable for me and there was no way to turn it off without losing all haptics. Glad to hear HFW doesn't have them.
I also think the speaker in the controller is doing more heavy lifting for walking on different surfaces than the haptics themselves. When combined they give a good illusion, pretty sure that it won't be anywhere near as effective without the sound element.
But back to the question posed in the OP: I'm in agreement, time to catch up and replace the Series Controllers rumble motors with a good haptics setup.
Lastly, you folks wanting an inbuilt battery are bonkers, that's the worst thing about half the controllers I own.
All it needs is gyro and IMO itll be perfect. I've never liked Sony's controllers, and Nintendo's "pro" line are fine but nothing special.
all of these. the xbox controller fails to provide the bare minimum exprected in 2022
Haptics would be fine but the most important missing feature of the Xbox controller is gyro.
It was a big oversight to not add gyro to the Series controller whilst still maintaining the comparability of old controllers in non gyro games.
There's still time though and Xbox have shown themselves to be good at listening to consumer feedback on recent times so I expect done development here.
It was a big oversight to not add gyro to the Series controller whilst still maintaining the comparability of old controllers in non gyro games.
There's still time though and Xbox have shown themselves to be good at listening to consumer feedback on recent times so I expect done development here.
asymmetric sticks extremely suck for accessibility. that said, everybody else needs to step up their game and provide an equivalent to the XAC.
No thanks, being able to immediately switch to full rechargeable batteries is better than having to wait or play tethered.
And if you really want it, they sell third party charging kits that just clip in the battery area and then the whole controller docks into a charger.
Rumble can be cool when someone does it right, but it's so limited. Most the time it just... buzzes here and there. Modern haptics have a much wider range of info they can convey. It make old spinning motors seem like a PC speaker that can only make those little honk and beep sounds.
Gyro is more important than haptics, but it doesn't have that either. I'm genuinely shocked at how far behind the xbox controller is. Remember we were playing with gyro in 2006
Fully agreed with the OP. It needs a little refresh feature-wise to bring it up to par.
Built-in batteries is such an odd hill to die on. Other than upfront cost, there's no other situation where it's better. Even then, I bought like an 8 pack of Ikea batteries like 5 years ago and they constantly rotate between my Xbox and PC peripherals and are still going strong.
With that said, it would be nice if Microsoft included some eneloops in there by default.
Built-in batteries is such an odd hill to die on. Other than upfront cost, there's no other situation where it's better. Even then, I bought like an 8 pack of Ikea batteries like 5 years ago and they constantly rotate between my Xbox and PC peripherals and are still going strong.
With that said, it would be nice if Microsoft included some eneloops in there by default.
I have big hands so I don't mind the size of the dual sense and it never got uncomfortable for me . With that said I agree that the Xbox controller feels more ergonomic in the hands . The rumble on the other hand is simply crappy even compared to something like the switch pro controller. The switch pro controller is even more ergonomic than the Xbox controller but both are good .
The D pad is way too clicky and loud and rumble doesn't add that much anymore, it was cool 20 years ago. I still prefer the form factor of the Xbox controller, however the DualSense is a small step for man but a huge leap for Sony. They're basically neck and neck with Xbox now.
Upfront cost doesn't make any sense either. It's not like the shit battery in the Dualsense comes for free.
Never want to see Xbox controllers have built-in batteries as standard. They're a pain in the ass as the system gets older. It's nice having the option of not using them or just buying a play and charge kit if you REALLY want to rechargeable experience.
The people talking about preferring rechargeable inbuilt batteries are crazy. I have a couple of rechargeable AA duracel batteries and they last an obscenely long time. I don't need to wait for charging because I always have a pair charged and ready to go . Plus this makes the controller basically last forever because inbuilt batteries all fail eventually.
Gyro is more important, as it allows gameplay not possible without it. Anyone who has played Splatoon can tell you how, if done right, it is game changing.
I respect how subjective controller comfort can be but myself and just about every non-enthusiast gamer friend I've invited over to play games between the PS5 and my XSS/PC combo pretty much always prefer the DualSense. And that's before even getting into haptic feedback, adaptive triggers, and gyro.
My girlfriend can hear me playing my series x when I'm in the living room at night and shes in the bedroom because the sticks and buttons on the xbox controller are so loud when you click them lmao.
There was actually a thread here about it last year.
