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Xbox BC people with Doom installed: do not delete it, Beth straight up yanked it [Update: Fixed]
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The video game preservationist in me is very happy right now, thank you for testing!
The point is that companies want you to think you only own a license to said game, meaning they can revoke it at will and tell you to piss off. Buy the new, inferior release if you want to keep playing.
They can't do that with a physical copy of the game.
This is why the streaming future is a horrible idea for consumers. There's nothing to preserve.
This being said, I'm really hoping this is a case of miscommunication.
Dat all digital future! You don't own shit, and they can take it away from you whenever they feel like and keep the money. And even if they don't, eventually the store/service inevitably goes down. All Digital is not consumer friendly.
Between this and the new ports requiring an online account to even start....someone check Don Mattrick's linkedin. He may have a new job.
This fear wouldn't even be possible without the digital infrastructure, though. That this is possible, even if it turns out to be a mistake on the part of the store management team, is something I and others find striking.
It doesn't negate the benefits of digital libraries, but it is very much a consequence of them.
Thanks for this, much appreciated. I'm keeping the games on my Xbox One and never removing them again.
I wholeheartedly disagree - the focus should be on making it impossible for companies to exert this kind of control over purchases. And I certainly would buy a physical copy. I can't tell you the number of times I've picked up a physical release if it released after the digital version or if I found a steep discount on a disc copy of a game I already had digitally.
The fact that we've had little community-wide panics over stuff like this and Minecraft Story Mode recently (whether you think is warranted or not) makes me inclined to agree. There needs to be firmer, visible safeguards in place; maybe in the terms and conditions of using the store (guarantees over your right to access) and messaging to reinforce that status. Surely both those worried about these events and those telling the first group to calm the fuck down would be amiable to that.
focus should be on calling for regulation to prevent companies from being able to do this kind of shitty stuff, not on just asking them not to
I'm glad I own a physical copy of Doom 3 BFG. I've got the digital versions already installed, and have no plans to delete them, but it's nice knowing I have a viable backup.
Removing them from your download list is unacceptable though. If it doesn't get resolved then I think I'm done buying from Bethesda.
Removing them from your download list is unacceptable though. If it doesn't get resolved then I think I'm done buying from Bethesda.
I don't think so. They just dropped xbone PS4 and switch versions of the games. They want you buying them not playing your 360 BC versions.
If this was just some error, it wouldn't have affected both PS3 and Xbox systems.
I came here to say the same thing. This is why I can't go all in on digital.
You used to be able for a very short period put Sonic's Ultimate Genesis Collection in an XBOX One and you'd get the 360 versions of Sonic 1-3 & the forever ago delisted version of Golden Axe. Somebody was supposed to do something about that and it never happened.
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This is clearly an error, probably related to the BC aspect w/ delisting process. Hopefully MS gets it sorted quickly
According to this thread PS3 is unaffected, looks like only Doom 3 on PS3 has been delisted
EDIT: Yep I just bought Doom Classic Complete on PS3
According to this thread PS3 is unaffected, looks like only Doom 3 on PS3 has been delisted
EDIT: Yep I just bought Doom Classic Complete on PS3
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This *just* went live on Xbox Marketplace:
Can anyone who own(ed) Doom II on XB360 see if they can claim that download for free, and/or if it lists as "owned" ? Either way, it sure DOES look like they removed the new levels that launched on the 360 version of Doom II, woof.
Still looking for Doom 1 Classic...
EDIT: Doom 1 Classic is here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/doom-1993/9plzphbnhtmf?activetab=pivot:overviewtab ... if you were affected and can check whether that's "owned" or "free" for you, lmk.
Can anyone who own(ed) Doom II on XB360 see if they can claim that download for free, and/or if it lists as "owned" ? Either way, it sure DOES look like they removed the new levels that launched on the 360 version of Doom II, woof.
Still looking for Doom 1 Classic...
EDIT: Doom 1 Classic is here: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/doom-1993/9plzphbnhtmf?activetab=pivot:overviewtab ... if you were affected and can check whether that's "owned" or "free" for you, lmk.
So the game was released on Xbox One, so they yanked the BC version to force sales. If it doesn't come back, this is a new precedent for grimy sales practices for old games.
Says "Buy" and "4.99" for me.
I just tried clicking buy to see if the message would change (it's done this for me before once or twice) and it just goes through the buying process.
edit:same with the Doom 1 link.
This is bad. If they want to yank the 360 version and have everyone buy the Bone version, that's fine.
But removing the game from the libraries of people that already bought it is downright scummy.
But removing the game from the libraries of people that already bought it is downright scummy.
Yeah, I mean that still sucks, but that kinda happens with PC games sometimes. Like when the Bulletstorm remaster came out they yanked the old one from sale, but I can still play it and download it from steam. It's happened to other games too, I think.
PS3 is affected, as Richter1887 has stated. On the European store, the listing has vanished, and following a (what was previously viable) link from its psprices page leads to a page not found error.
https://store.playstation.com/en-gb/product/EP1003-NPEB01014_00-DOOMCOMPLETEPACK
I would assume there's a possibility other regions will follow.
That's a shame, if you have a USA account (or make one really quick) it's still available for $15. I literally followed the link on the front page and was able to buy
They both say Buy (6.49 CAD) for me. I own the backwards compatible versions as well.
Damn, looks like Bethesda pulled the BC versions.
Yep, got my 360 Doom 3 BFG disc waiting at home along with my Quake 4 (plus Quake 2 1080p 60fps version) 360 discs.
Xbox operate in a way to support your historic digital purchases as long as possible.
Must be a stuff up in the process, would be good to hear word front MS, even if they are just looking into it.
majornelson ?
Must be a stuff up in the process, would be good to hear word front MS, even if they are just looking into it.
majornelson ?
Hmmm I'm confused.
My Xbox 360 copies of Doom I and Doom II are still installed but I see the Leaderboards and playing Mulitplayer options are blacked out for the first Doom.
That's really lame. Apparently, when I inserted the Doom 3 bfg edition a few years back I didn't have my og copy of Doom I installed so it installed the new licesnse, this removing my ability to ever play Online mp again. Fucking weak.
My Xbox 360 copies of Doom I and Doom II are still installed but I see the Leaderboards and playing Mulitplayer options are blacked out for the first Doom.
That's really lame. Apparently, when I inserted the Doom 3 bfg edition a few years back I didn't have my og copy of Doom I installed so it installed the new licesnse, this removing my ability to ever play Online mp again. Fucking weak.
Luckily I already own it, but that's not bad advice for anybody with a PS3 still hooked up.
Anybody tweeted this to him? Would be great if he gave this exposure as it really needs it.
How do we go from having all classic Doom games/expansions to this shit?
I don't own it and used to have both Doom 1 and 2 digitally on 360/One BC. Both games are also gone from my ready to install list.
Did they not understand why some of us were so concerned, when they wanted to implement online DRM at the beginning of the generation? It was about ownership and fear of not having access to the games we've purchased. Are they straight up removing games from our accounts now or is this a mistake?
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Delistings happen, obviously we want some assurances that the games will be made available again to those who already bought them on Xbox, but this isnt anything blatantly insidious quite yet.
Yeah, I'll never get rid of my 360 version of Quake 2, lol
Also, WTF's this all about?
If anything, I hope that's just for multiplayer...
Money, and nobody at Bethesda being involved in the original games development.
You're required to sign in to Bethesda.net the first time you start the game. You have to sign in at least one time to play at all. It's bullshit.
Oh... well that double sucks.
I just noticed if you go to Bethesda.net and then All Games and filter to Xbox 360 games, the only game that comes up now is Doom 3 BFG.
Reminds me, at E3 Bethesda took credit for creating the FPS genre. Yeah, Bethesda somehow created Wolfenstein 3D and Doom when John Carmack, John Romero and the original team aren't even working there.
