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Djkhaled

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Oct 28, 2017
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It's their developmental brand lol.

Literally the only "Main Show Stars" advertised were The Revival and I don't even know why they are as a regular RAW viewer.

It's NXT. Most WWE fans don't care to watch NXT. I've been watching WWE since I was 10 and I literally never felt any urge to watch their developmental brand.
But it's not their developmental anymore, Becky was "literally" advertised prior to the show. You can fanboy all you want, but it was a hollow victory.
 

Jimmyfenix

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Oct 25, 2017
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Week 1: AEW had 518k more viewers
Week 2: AEW had 350k more viewers
Week 3: AEW had 302k more viewers
Week 4: AEW had 265k more viewers
Week 5: AEW had 179k more viewers
Week 6: AEW had 9k more viewers
Week 7: AEW had 207k more viewers
Week 8: NXT had 23k more viewers
AEW down 6% from last week (Last week 957,000)
NXT up 22% from last week (Last week 750,000)

to fuel the flames a bit
 

Mahonay

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Oct 25, 2017
33,318
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Week 1: AEW had 518k more viewers
Week 2: AEW had 350k more viewers
Week 3: AEW had 302k more viewers
Week 4: AEW had 265k more viewers
Week 5: AEW had 179k more viewers
Week 6: AEW had 9k more viewers
Week 7: AEW had 207k more viewers
Week 8: NXT had 23k more viewers
AEW down 6% from last week (Last week 957,000)
NXT up 22% from last week (Last week 750,000)

to fuel the flames a bit
Last week's Dynamite was the immediate follow up to the Full Gear PPV. Drop off this week made sense.

This week's NXT was a big invasion show leading into both TakeOver and Survivor Series. That rise, also makes total sense.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Some of y'all with some revisionism on Monday Night Wars shit. The absolute best part was having TWO options so you could flip between them and see who was pushing who.

I'm totally checked out on WWE but two shows hovering right around 1 million is good and is jsut going to keep pushing each other.
 

darkside

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Oct 26, 2017
11,318
This thread is cringeworthy as hell. I've found NXT to be the better product so I'm regularly watching that live but I'm glad both shows seem to be doing relatively well.
 

Rivenblade

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Nov 1, 2017
37,130
Some of y'all with some revisionism on Monday Night Wars shit. The absolute best part was having TWO options so you could flip between them and see who was pushing who.

I'm totally checked out on WWE but two shows hovering right around 1 million is good and is jsut going to keep pushing each other.

Amen. I don't watch NXT but I'm happy for those that do. Sounds like good stuff is happening over there too. Cliche to say at this point, but it's a great time to be a wrestling fan right now.
 

Sephzilla

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Oct 25, 2017
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AEW has had a pretty steady base just under a million viewers, which is fantastic for a new promotion. Who cares if NXT beats it once and a while.
 

Rivenblade

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Nov 1, 2017
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AEW has had a pretty steady base just under a million viewers, which is fantastic for a new promotion. Who cares if NXT beats it once and a while.

This is the correct take. They're keeping their fans happy and will hopefully grow that base number over time as word of mouth spreads and we get some more stories and stars that stand out.
 

Orioto

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Oct 26, 2017
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So the whole game is to see if AEW can shake the wresting world by beating WWE, but it's cheating if WWE puts its biggest stars in the game ?
The truth is AEW is competing against the nichest of niche wwe wrestling shows. There is no test there it's a trap.
AEW's progression is important, but the little fight against NXT is basically a way for WWE to maintain them in the pawn game.
 

Rivenblade

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Nov 1, 2017
37,130
So the whole game is to see if AEW can shake the wresting world by beating WWE, but it's cheating if WWE puts its biggest stars in the game ?
The truth is AEW is competing against the nichest of niche wwe wrestling shows. There is no test there it's a trap.
AEW's progression is important, but the little fight against NXT is basically a way for WWE to maintain them in the pawn game.

205 Live still exists, no?

Anyway, AEW is doing just fine.

Don't act above being a fan. Rooting for your team is fine. Shiting on wwe is even better. But firing up six devices to stream and then tweeting about it is pure cringe.

#FACT
 

Jimmyfenix

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Oct 25, 2017
1,231
being a wrestling fan in 2019 is pretty cringe but we all do it anyway

it's part of life

at least we all hate ROH
 

CenaToon

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Oct 25, 2017
4,286
Its criminal a show like AEW last night didnt get 1.0 minimun, it was fantastic.

Still, its really funny that Le Champion is not a draw in his own demo lmao.
 

Mahonay

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Oct 25, 2017
33,318
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So the whole game is to see if AEW can shake the wresting world by beating WWE, but it's cheating if WWE puts its biggest stars in the game ?
The truth is AEW is competing against the nichest of niche wwe wrestling shows. There is no test there it's a trap.
AEW's progression is important, but the little fight against NXT is basically a way for WWE to maintain them in the pawn game.
AEW couldn't exactly stop WWE from choosing to put NXT live on USA Wednesday night for the explicit purpose to directly compete with Dynamite.

In the end, this new "wrestling war" is likely pulling in more viewers for both shows. It's not inherently bad for them to go at each other. Both feds are forced to put out the best show possible on a weekly basis. So 🤷‍♂️


You don't have bad faith actors to self sabotage like you did in the Monday Night Wars that caused WCW to die from the war.
 

sora87

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Oct 27, 2017
6,869
NXT deserves to be on par with Dynamite tbh. They're both great shows, NXT usually has better quality matches but Dynamite seems to be the better paced show. Wednesday night is a great time to be a wrestling fan.
 

Buckle

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Oct 27, 2017
41,149
So the whole game is to see if AEW can shake the wresting world by beating WWE, but it's cheating if WWE puts its biggest stars in the game ?
The truth is AEW is competing against the nichest of niche wwe wrestling shows. There is no test there it's a trap.
AEW's progression is important, but the little fight against NXT is basically a way for WWE to maintain them in the pawn game.
AEW never wanted to directly compete with WWE (and they've said its crazy to try to before), they wanted to be the alternative with their own night to carve out a niche.

This whole time, WWE has been trying to counter program them/hurt their momentum and the only way they could win was to advertise the main roster on NXT. So yeah, if people want to feel proud of a start up company with nowhere near the amount of money and resources holding off the company that has a monopoly on the business in the states, I'm more than willing to root for them being able to stand their own against the odds.

WWE just expected AEW to be easily scared off at the first sign of confrontation but I think they're proving to be more than that.
 

Tabaxi

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Nov 18, 2018
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AEW couldn't exactly stop WWE from choosing to put NXT live on USA Wednesday night for the explicit purpose to directly compete with Dynamite.

In the end, this new "wrestling war" is likely pulling in more viewers for both shows. It's not inherently bad for them to go at each other.

I don't think the wrestling war is doing much for AEW in either direction. From what we've seen, the crossover is there, but small, and the demographics are overall quite different. It matters in the sense that the overlap decides who "wins" during close weeks, but I really disagree that it's relevant to AEW's longterm growth.

AEW's long term success is going to be contingent on whether they can create new wrestling fans, not draw from WWE existing base.
 

Mahonay

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Oct 25, 2017
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I don't think the wrestling war is doing much for AEW in either direction. From what we've seen, the crossover is there, but small, and the demographics are overall quite different. It matters in the sense that the overlap decides who "wins" on close weeks, but I really disagree that it's relevant to AEW's longterm growth.

AEW's long term success is going to be contingent on whether they can create new wrestling fans, not draw from WWE existing base.
True.
 

MassiveNights

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can't believe WWE has exhausted the for-years-fantasy-booked NXT invasion angle, which one day could have been epic and on one solitary unplanned show was a lot of fun, just to win the Wednesday ratings one week by 20k, while still losing in every demo that matters.

Fucking desperate.

They are in a war with themselves.
 

Jmdajr

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Oct 25, 2017
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I can't believe WWE has exhausted the for-years-fantasy-booked NXT invasion angle, which one day could have been epic and on one solitary unplanned show was a lot of fun, just to win the Wednesday ratings one week by 20k, while still losing in every demo that matters.

Fucking desperate.

They are in a war with themselves.
There is no future only today brother!
 
Jan 10, 2018
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It's their developmental brand lol.

Literally the only "Main Show Stars" advertised were The Revival and I don't even know why they are as a regular RAW viewer.

It's NXT. Most WWE fans don't care to watch NXT. I've been watching WWE since I was 10 and I literally never felt any urge to watch their developmental brand.

NXT, that developmental brand, where young unproven grasshoppers like Cesaro, Beck Lynch, Shinsuke Nakamura and Finn Balor can make their first baby steps
 

dennett316

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Nov 2, 2017
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Blackpool, UK
Wednesday night is the only night of wrestling that matters. Mondays and Fridays can piss off. I really wish I could watch NXT as well as AEW but we don't get it on a free channel, and I just don't want to support WWE by getting the Network to see it. If they ever do an NXT only option, I'd pay for that.
For now I'm more than happy with AEW Dynamite and Dark on YouTube. More than enough good wrestling there. That Raw and Smackdown get 2 million+ viewers while Dynamite and NXT get less than a million really irritates me.
 

NoRéN

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Oct 26, 2017
2,623
So wwe had to bring in a bunch of raw and smackdown people to finally beat aew and it was only by about 20k?

Damn! At least their aarp crowd is loyal.
 
Oct 25, 2017
20,229
It's their developmental brand lol.

Literally the only "Main Show Stars" advertised were The Revival and I don't even know why they are as a regular RAW viewer.

It's NXT. Most WWE fans don't care to watch NXT. I've been watching WWE since I was 10 and I literally never felt any urge to watch their developmental brand.

NXT is barely a development brand anymore.
 

Bronx-Man

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Oct 25, 2017
15,351
All I'm getting from all this is that the overrun does wonders for NXT. Tony should try to sweet-talk TNT into giving them one.
 

LiquidSolid

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Oct 26, 2017
4,731
i still find it funny that JR was trying to throw shots at seth because he isn't over as Becky yet she is the reason AEW lost this week

Becky is really the biggest draw in wrestling
*US wrestling.

But to be honest, a 230k jump for a hyped up invasion angle featuring the second biggest star in the company (behind Lesnar) is pretty weak. It just goes to show how WWE can't make stars and the few that fall into their laps, they quickly water down and kill their momentum.
 
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