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WSJ: Nintendo to Launch Two New Switch Models. Premium "Enhanced" Model and Cheaper Portable Model.
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I'm sure it's been asked already, but what will need to be done if buying a new console if you have a lot of titles purchased digitally?
Nintendo's portables consistently sold better than their home consoles. If someone buys the Switch Light but then says, "You know what, I want a premium experience now" then they have an easy upgrade path.
I personally don't see a downside to offering one.
1. Backup (supported) Cloud Saves on old device
2. Log into new device
3. Download games
4. Download Cloud Saves
So it's sounding more and more like the Switch "Pro" is twice as much in terms of Specs. it sounds like there is a newer CPU being used, likely A72/A73. Tegra Mariko seems to reach at least double the current Switch's performance when docked, Mariko's profile in Switch firmware also has 8GB ram and a 4GB profile, possibly for the 2 different models... based on the SNK leaker's info, the specs did change after his overclocked X2 stuff, that is natural as they moved on to Mariko from Parker.
I'd also suggest that the cheaper model probably uses the same chip at a lower clock speed, so that when portable, both devices run games with a similar spec to the current Switch when docked, though possibly with faster CPU and RAM, allowing for games to target these new devices, especially after the first 2 years, would allow them to more seemlessly leave generational hardware in the past and embrace a more natural dev cycle, where iterations on hardware allow relevant performance levels going forward.
I'd also suggest that the cheaper model probably uses the same chip at a lower clock speed, so that when portable, both devices run games with a similar spec to the current Switch when docked, though possibly with faster CPU and RAM, allowing for games to target these new devices, especially after the first 2 years, would allow them to more seemlessly leave generational hardware in the past and embrace a more natural dev cycle, where iterations on hardware allow relevant performance levels going forward.
You would think there wouldn't be any meltdowns but there are some people so against a mini version that I wouldn't be surprised.
The games you buy digitally are linked to your Nintendo account not the console. You can just redownload them
Nintendo is smart. Get ahead of the decline. Don't wait until the decline starts. Keep putting fuel in the train. The Mini was a given. The Pro possibly coming this early throws me off a little, but whatever. They probably don't want to chance it at all.
I'd love to have a truly portable model like the 3DS, but I fear it'll be underpowered... The Pro model is appealing, but it doesn't address my main issue with the Switch, which is that I don't find it to be a particularly good handheld. The performance boost could be good, though.
What is a Tegra Mariko? Next announced Tegra revision is the Tegra Orin/Pegasus from everything I know. Also the name Mariko doesn't come up on any Nvidia roadmaps I could find.
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For games that don't use cloud saves (like splatoon) is there a way to do a system transfer to move over save files to a new system?
The main feature of interest I would have in a pro unit is Bluetooth headset compatibility
The main feature of interest I would have in a pro unit is Bluetooth headset compatibility
I have to imagine both models will be a straight upgrade over the OG switch
Or at least the smaller one being identical
Or at least the smaller one being identical
That Mariko was the name for the Switch revision T214 that was shown in the code for the 5.0.0 Switch update in 2018. Was talked to have 8gb of RAM
A smaller Switch kinda has to have better hardware in order to run the same games in a more difficult thermal envelope.
Part of Nintendo's confidence in the Switch's extra longevity, it seems, comes from the idea that the system isn't generally limited to one sale per household. "Our ultimate ambition is for a Nintendo Switch to be owned not just by every family, but by every single person," Miyamoto said in the Q&A. Only then, he said, will consumers be able to "take for granted that everybody has a Nintendo Switch, then we can create new and very Nintendo genres of play, and Nintendo Switch can have a life apart from smart devices and other video game systems."
This isn't a new concept for Nintendo. Company president Tatsumi Kimishima has said multiple times in recent months that he expects many households to buy multiple Switch consoles for separate family members. Miyamoto had the same vision for the Nintendo DS back in 2009, telling the Economist that "instead of selling one unit per household as with the Wii, Nintendo wants to sell one DSi per family member."
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/02/nintendo-hopes-every-single-person-will-own-a-switch/
2 Switch Gos for the Pokemon playing kids, 1 Switch Go with Doom for mommy in the Lockheed Martin boardroom and 1 main Switch at home to play Bayonetta on the TV.
an A72/75 at 1.5GHz and 256 cuda cores at 1GHz docked and 50GB/s bandwidth is gonna make more of a difference than most people realize
All the kids right now don't have control over the TV and they're all playing their Switches in bed.
Why? Especially when the leading theory is for the portable only one being cheaper.
What I expect:
NINTENDO SWITCH S
- Price around 350 dollars;
- Better battery life (1+ hours compared to the normal Switch)
- Unlocked Tegra X1? (I mean no customisation)
- Better dock
- 8gb ram
- Larger screen in portable mode
NINTENDO SWITCH
- Price drop to 250
NINTENDO SWITCH L(ite)
- Price around 200/220 dollars;
- No rumble, reduced dock's form factory, no motion IR camera
NINTENDO SWITCH S
- Price around 350 dollars;
- Better battery life (1+ hours compared to the normal Switch)
- Unlocked Tegra X1? (I mean no customisation)
- Better dock
- 8gb ram
- Larger screen in portable mode
NINTENDO SWITCH
- Price drop to 250
NINTENDO SWITCH L(ite)
- Price around 200/220 dollars;
- No rumble, reduced dock's form factory, no motion IR camera
Again, article clearly says that it won't be like a Vita. Nowhere I'm saying it shouldn't be cheaper or aimed at hand-held audience, I just don't see how that means removing the joy-cons.
People who have played the new consoles say the cheaper one isn't like a Vita. I don't know what else can that mean.
What is a Tegra Mariko? Next announced Tegra revision is the Tegra Orin/Pegasus from everything I know. Also the name Mariko doesn't come up on any Nvidia roadmaps I could find.
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Mariko (aka T214) is a chip referenced within Switch's firmware for about a year now. The Tegra chips above are Nvidia's automotive chips, whereas Mariko is almost certainly a custom SoC for Nintendo.
Cheaper or not, it has to have more capable innards if it is to run the same games.
Being smaller means working with worse thermals and having to account for smaller battery.
What is a Tegra Mariko? Next announced Tegra revision is the Tegra Orin/Pegasus from everything I know. Also the name Mariko doesn't come up on any Nvidia roadmaps I could find.
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it was not the name of the Switch revision, it was the name of the custom chip that the Switch firmware had built into it's official code. Somewhere there are devices using a chip called Tegra Mariko, that have 8GB of RAM and run the Switch OS. Nintendo has updated this firmware in 6.0 and 7.0 and Mariko is still there and I believe it's even been updated.
Ah I see but I would think the next Switch would be based on the automotive chips given they are how the tegra line is continuing.
I could see them doing a revision of the existing Switch to fix some of the hardware & software shortcomings of the original. Unless they plan on putting the Switch Pro at the OG Switch's price point ($300), there's room for it to co-exist with the cheaper & more expensive options.
Because its mobile hardware and thats how this stuff works
They arent going to shoehorn the old stuff and they already moved on from the old chipset thanks to the vulnerability of the original
I would wager neither, most Nintendo hardware revisions just get a trailer and press release out of the blue
Well if the SNK leaker's specs were right, and with the current confirmation I think it's safe to assume... a 256 cuda core GPU would need to be clocked at 1.6GHz or better to achieve 'Overclocked Tegra X2'. I assume it's using a bigger GPU, 384 or 512 cuda cores, and since Xaiver uses 512 cuda cores and was designed around the same time as this chip, I'm venturing to guess that the chip is 12nm and uses 512 cuda cores with 800GFLOPs+ of performance.
Custom chip between Nintendo and nvidiaWhat is a Tegra Mariko? Next announced Tegra revision is the Tegra Orin/Pegasus from everything I know. Also the name Mariko doesn't come up on any Nvidia roadmaps I could find.
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I still think a Switch lite could get rid of joycons and come without a dock but still be dockable. For joycon games you can buy joycons separately.
Lowers entry price. Allows accessory up selling.
They could sell a dock plus joycons combo pack or something. Plus some sort of joycon charging station.
Lowers entry price. Allows accessory up selling.
They could sell a dock plus joycons combo pack or something. Plus some sort of joycon charging station.
I know. I remember buying a cell phone once and it was locked up right out the box. Just displayed the damn clock. ;)
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