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Arm Van Dam

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/at-t-explores-parting-ways-with-directv-11568841544?mod=hp_lead_pos2

AT&T Inc. is exploring parting with its DirecTV unit, people familiar with the matter said, a move that would mark a sharp course correction in strategy for Chief Executive Randall Stephenson, who billed his $49 billion bet on the satellite provider as key to the phone giant's future.

The telecom giant has considered various options, including a spinoff of DirecTV into a separate public company and a combination of DirecTV's assets with Dish Network Corp., its satellite-TV rival, the people said.

AT&T may ultimately decide to keep DirecTV in the fold. Despite the satellite service's struggles, as consumers drop their TV connections, it still contributes a sizable volume of cash flow and customer accounts to its parent.


AT&T acquired DirecTV in 2015 for $49 billion. The company's shrinking satellite business is under a microscope after activist investor Elliott Management Corp. disclosed a $3.2 billion stake in AT&T last week and released a report pushing for strategic changes. Elliott has told investors that AT&T should unload DirecTV, The Wall Street Journal has previously reported.

There could be regulatory hurdles to any deal with Dish, which has about 12 million subscribers. When Dish's predecessor EchoStar Communications Corp. and DirecTV's former owner Hughes Electronics Corp. tried to merge in 2001, regulators ultimately blocked it on antitrust grounds, worried that many rural Americans would be left with only a single option to get their television service. More recently, Dish Chairman Charlie Ergen held talks to combine with DirecTV in 2014, but lost out to AT&T.

On the idea of merging the two satellite providers, AT&T finance chief John Stephens said, "From a regulatory perspective, it hasn't been successful and I don't know that there is any change in that regulatory perspective." He added, speaking last week at an investor conference, "I understand the industrial logic, but quite frankly it's been tried and has been rejected."
 

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ugh, what. I'd welcome AT&T selling it off because they made it so much worse than it used to be when they bought it, but I don't think selling it to Dish is the answer.
 

Slayven

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Didn't they just buy Directv?

I had it for a few years, it got tiring every few months them getting into fights with local channels
 

captive

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On the one hand this would be great. Directv used to have top notch customer service. And now with att they are God awful.

On the other hand dish network sucks too.
 

Landy828

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I literally called DirecTV today and told them to cancel my service at the next payment date. Switching to YouTube TV.

I was only paying $56 a month due to having AT&t cell phone. It jumped to $123 a month this month. My discount from when I first got DirecTV ended and they refused to give me any other deals.
 
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mrmoose

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Nov 13, 2017
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If they sell it there goes my uncapped internet. At that point I may just switch away from AT&T entirely.
 

Anustart

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Att is such a horribly inept company.

I worked for them for 6 months and the internal organization was junk.
 

Chaos Legion

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Reverse Morris Trust (Tax-free spin-merge)!

That would be a cool deal to work on, IMO. Problem is, Trump hates AT&T and would try to block it out of spite. If Warren or Bernie win, there's no way their administration would allow them to do this without paying any taxes...so I dunno if it happens.

Might just have to bite the bullet and list it as a public company.
 

FLEABttn

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Beyond any DOJ issues with there being only one (major) satellite provider, I don't see Dish going for this unless it was extraordinarily cheap. Dish would have to maintain three satellite "arcs" instead of the suboptimal two they maintain now because there's basically zero chance they do a truck roll to half of their customers to replace the hardware and re-point dishes. I'm not sure they could even consolidate uplink facilities quickly or cheaply so the infrastructure economies of scale would basically come from laying off a redundant billing and install department.
 

Kronotech

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The combination is the only real reason I'm still with ATT. If they split, I'm jumping to Verizon. I hope they don't.
 

Andokuky

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They suck. Worst TV provider I've ever had. Took them three technicians to install it correctly and they seem to only hire ex cons fresh out of prison as install techs. The box broke like two weeks in and they sent me a new one and told me to only return the card inside of the old box and not to bother returning the old box.. then hit me with almost $200 in fees for not returning the box LOL. They wouldn't remove the fees, I dropped them. I still get calls two years later from their promotions department asking me how my service is going and telling me they have offers to lower my DirecTV bill.

Went back to Frontier but cut the cord a couple months ago and it's been great.
 

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I know several people who are/were at DirecTV. They pretty much all told me that AT&T completely fucked up their work culture during the acquisition. And now it sounds like it was all for nothing. How shitty.
 

Nemesis121

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AT&T turn DTV into shit now they want to dump it lol, don't worry AT&T i will feel the same way, getting ready to cut DTV by the end of October..
 

Ogodei

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I literally called DirecTV today and told them to cancel my service at the next payment date. Switching to YouTube TV.

I was only paying $56 a month due to having AT&t cell phone. It jumped to $123 a month this month. My discount from when I first got DirecTV ended and they refused to give me any other deals.

That was my parents' experience. They were customers for 10 years and the bill just kept going up and up despite them cutting packages back around 2016.

My thought on it is whoever your broadband provider is has you by the balls. If they can get you a decent offer on TV, then that's who you may as well go with.
 

Rad Bandolar

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I dropped DirecTV soon after ATT acquired them, since my entire experience with them is that everything they touch turns to shit (I still haven't got over what they did to Cingular). It sounds like they did what they do best, but I'm surprised they're dumping it this fast, espcially since they haven't completely driven off the customer base yet.

Selling it to Dish would be the final insult for DirecTV. Dish was always the also-ran, so buying what used to be the dominant player in the market would be sweet for them.
 

Var

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I literally called DirecTV today and told them to cancel my service at the next payment date. Switching to YouTube TV.

I was only paying $56 a month due to having AT&t cell phone. It jumped to $123 a month this month. My discount from when I first got DirecTV ended and they refused to give me any other deals.

I did the same a few months ago. I had to call back in twice more before they actually cancelled my account though.
 

mreddie

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LOL so now with HBO Max, they just said fuck it and ditch DTV and possibly make a new monopoly with DTV/Dish, LOL
 

TheZynster

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Att is such a horribly inept company.

I worked for them for 6 months and the internal organization was junk.

brah, you can't even get installation after 4pm.........its insane. I had to take half days or a day off of work just go get my fiber installed. Once it was installed its great, but jesus no one ever works late there. I could have comcast at least at my house near 8pm or on my schedule.
 

Surakian

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I dropped DirecTV soon after ATT acquired them, since my entire experience with them is that everything they touch turns to shit (I still haven't got over what they did to Cingular). It sounds like they did what they do best, but I'm surprised they're dumping it this fast, espcially since they haven't completely driven off the customer base yet.

Selling it to Dish would be the final insult for DirecTV. Dish was always the also-ran, so buying what used to be the dominant player in the market would be sweet for them.

I'll never not be upset with what they did to Cingular. AT&T is a plague on the telecommunications industry. They buy out what they can, run it down, and then spit it back out in worse shape than it ever was before.
 

mrmoose

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Direct TV will further shrink when they lose the NFL rights in 2020.
I wonder if we'll finally get RedZone. I really like the Sunday ticket version but I'm not paying full price for Sunday Ticket for that and they don't offer just the channel by itself (unless you convince them when you renew).

Honestly, if you're a big fan of sports that's the one thing that's pretty much impossible to replicate via streaming, at least if you live in an area where the teams have specific channels and you'd be blacked out on the normal channels.

Although I just renewed a discount earlier this year I've heard from plenty of people that DirecTV isn't budging even during the cancellation process, but I guess they just don't care.
 

h1nch

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I was a 9 year DTV cutomer but dropped them 2 years ago in favor of Youtube TV and it's been a very positive experience.

Positives:
- available channels
- NFL sunday ticket
- relatively decent tech (not great, but always seemingly way ahead of cable box tech)
- picture quality (compared to sling/vue/yttv)

Negatives
- expensive
- stupid recurring fees for equipment that depreciate over time (but will keep charging you the fee until you call to complain)
- signal dies during rain storms
- shady contractors who show up to do installs and maintenance
- guide has tons of junk channels. gotta manually set up filters to filter out porn, ppv, and otherwise channels you don't sub to
- advertisements in the fucking guide (seriously, get fucked for this DTV)

The only thing I miss is Sunday Ticket and the Siciliano version of Red Zone.