You're being openly shitty when you say you'll take it only after other people be your guinea pig. This is a thought experiment. If you can't even in a thought experiment take a fucking vaccine without prefacing you don't trust it enough to take it first you don't really believe in these vaccines.
Just say you don't trust it. Stop hiding away trying to seem reasonable. If there was a vaccine today and I was told I can take it I will take it. Period. Will I logistically be in the first round? No. Does that matter to how you should answer this question. No it does not.
You only get to have this mentality because other people are willing to take it for the greater good. If we all had your mentality no one would fucking taking take it lol. Yall wanna have your cake and eat it too.
What research are you going to be able to do that scientists aren't able to do?Not a chance. These vaccines are being rushed to hell. I'll need to do some serious research first.
Wow, an anti-vaxxer out in the open. Lol!
"They" are. Not me.Seeing a lot of people here saying no is fucking sad
We're really gonna be doing this thing for another year
Literally had this conversation with a coworker last night. A vaccine only gets approved for public use if it's safe. They've already done all the tests necessary for someone like me to take it. Give me that vaccine please. I want to go to the movies again.
More anti-vaxxers in this forum than I thought there would be. Apparently all these enlightened, mega-smart, genius IQ posters will be doing better research than the medical community. I mean, they're even going to wait it out and observe the willing participants, looking for... side effects, I guess? Uh... people dying from this vaccine that is designed to fight a deadly disease, I suppose? I can't wait for their findings! I'm sure they'll be totally legit, unbiased, and informed by only the best sources and information. They're so smart, taking the cautious approach while the plebs and morons line up for this awful, awful vaccine. Surely these guys will stay locked up in their apartment, never leaving, not even one single time, to keep at-risk people who can't get the vaccine safe. Surely.Seeing a lot of people here saying no is fucking sad
We're really gonna be doing this thing for another year
All of the vaccines that are anticipating to be ready in the next few months have been tested on tens of thousands of people, and have shown their efficiency and safety, the first person to be injected with the oxford vaccine it as part of the trial was in April. Several of the vaccines(Not any of the mRNA ones) are based off of in development SARS vaccines, and have been testing and monitored for at least 5 years.Sir, if you chose to take it first and someone opts to watch how it works on you so they gain confidence to go get it themselves, that's the way it fucking works. Isn't the decision to take the vaccine based on the great souls who donated their bodies to the science for the greater good so that you can get your ass up to go take the vaccine yourself? Lol!
I'm sorry if it offense you that people chose another option that isn't of your logic. I'm also very sorry if you are offended by being called a guinea pig, because that's essentially what you're really on, when the truth is 100% of everyone in the world won't be taking it day one. Just say that you're offended and move on. You're the one being sensitive about people's decision and now rushing to call out reasonings as "unreasonable" when they in fact aren't.
And weirdly enough, people saying no isn't because they flat out don't want to. People here saying no aren't against every and all vaccines that would make them "anti-vaxxer" as you like to throw around. It just means that they opt out of being first....which there is NOTHING wrong with that. Take your high horse and speed your way in line and do for the greater good as you clearly feel you should. Don't put that shit on everyone else who chose not to. Shit, I don't see you signing up to be the actual guinea pig of the people who volunteered to actually be host of the vaccine that you have and now sit back and wait for the results.
You got your cake to eat too so stop lol!
I want to remind you that this isn't a nationwide pandemic. Its a GLOBAL pandemic, so everybody in the world will be watching how this works. Right now, the testing (from what I've seen and I could be wrong) isn't being tested on hundreds of millions of people which this will have to be distributed to make sure we are all on the same page....also, do I need to also remind you that this vaccine is not being made by one company but multiple? Yeah, I think people who want to wait and see is not the shitty one's at all. It's called just being realistic in consideration with what we know so far. No one is shaming the rest of people who want to take it.
Considering they may not have figured out all the side effects.
It's honestly blowing my mind how some posters itt are literally spewing anti-vax rhetoric, but when called an anti-vaxxer say "no, not me, this is different than all those other vaccines!". If you're going to be an anti-vaxxer, at least own it. Pathetic stuff.This is full tilt anti-vaxx rhetoric you're spewing here, weather you know it is, or not.
I don't think this applies in this hypothetical scenario. I could be wrong. I assumed in this scenario everyone is being offered the same thing at the same time.So, if my answer is "No" due to supply constraints, should I just change it to "Yes" for the sake of this poll?
Yeah, this assumes you are offered a vaccine today and the steps going through the population have determined today is your day for the vaccine.So, if my answer is "No" due to supply constraints, should I just change it to "Yes" for the sake of this poll?
Sadly, it's nowhere close to being that way in the United States, but it does get the point across for the hypothetical.Yeah, this assumes you are offered a vaccine today and the steps going through the population have determined today is your day for the vaccine.
Is this parody because if not then it's actually hilarious.Not a chance. These vaccines are being rushed to hell. I'll need to do some serious research first.
This would be remarkably quick for vaccine development - within 10 months of detailing the genetic code. The average wait for approval in the US is nearer eight years
If only. This is similar to actual shit I've heard actual people in real life say.
A lot of those "No" votes, including mine, are not outright or even skeptical though. A lot are simply because of the condition of "today" and we know there's going to be a supply issue until at least the middle of next year.
Just so you know there are multiple independent health and medication agencies throughout the EU that will have to sign off on this before it becomes available to the public.Covid vaccine: Pfizer applies for first approval in US
The vaccine could get emergency authorisation in the first two weeks of December.www.bbc.co.uk
from the BBC about the vaccine.
I would still say yes but am hesitant in a way. I'm healthy and probably can afford to wait to see results.
Its not a hard question. Would you take it? Y/nSadly, it's nowhere close to being that way in the United States, but it does get the point across for the hypothetical.
Yeah, but alex jones says...Ya, but there are a lot of posters that have expressed that they don't trust it and don't trust pharma, acting like they can research better than the fucking Lancet Journal.
All the vaccines have been going through the same rigorous processes and have had 10's of thousands of participants already.
If you got offered an effective vaccine today, that was approved by the EU/ whatever you have in the US.
Would you take it?
Yeah that's another part too, we discussed that, or at least to the extent of our own knowledge about vaccines. That they've always been DNA based or something and this one targets mRNA that puts it even more into uncharted territory and 'how did they do all this in the span of months?', etc.