Switch Pro would probably use UFS 2.0 or better anyway, which is plenty fast, do an SSD is not that necessary. The specs that go into 4K (DLSS, strong GPU/RAM bandwidth) seem much more useful.
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Would you prefer the Switch Pro have 4K or SSD? (Poll)
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4K.
I think the last Nintendo console that ran at my display's native resolution was N64 or GameCube. I'm tired of playing Nintendo games at poor resolutions.
I think the last Nintendo console that ran at my display's native resolution was N64 or GameCube. I'm tired of playing Nintendo games at poor resolutions.
DLSS support is my number one request -- I think it's doable to have that (given the Nvidia hardware) as well as a GPU increase for faster loading. But if I had to pick one, I'd take DLSS, so the answer is 4K on that technicality.
The point is more that the Switch storage solution is already ancient, and the current low-end solution of UFS 2.0 already does 1 GB/s. What's more, in order to support those multi-GB read speeds, you need a ton of processing power. PS5/XSX support this via customised hardware, Switch would need something similar to have any use for those high loading speeds. At those speeds, it's the CPU that's the bottleneck, not the storage speed anymore, so going for a multi-GB vs. 1 GB/s storage solution probably does nothing but waste precious power draw. Even the 1GB/s solution probably above the feasible limit already.
It's not that Switch wouldn't benefit from faster storage - it's more that improvements in GPU processing by way of better ALU performance as well as DLSS support is so much more likely to make a tangible difference. But it's the CPU that needs the boost the most I think - and luckily advances there have gone really fast, so some much better solutions are available.
Ok but what makes the PS5/XSX special is PCIe4, not "SSD"
edit: this isn't a pedantic distinction either. People are posting stuff like "super fast storage because 4K is too power hungry". You know what else runs hot and power hungry? PCIe4. You're not going to run that bus on a low power handheld and that's going to cap your transfer speeds at the level of cheaper drives that will still, nonetheless, be SSDs.
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It should have both, yeah? The latest Playstation and Xbox models launched with both. Even 4K with some kind of reconstruction like DLSS plus an SSD should be the expectation.
4k for 4k user interface would be nice, the "actual" game doesn't need to render in 4k.
Their storage is already quite decent, but can be improved of course.
Their storage is already quite decent, but can be improved of course.
Should be noted that the OP (probably) means with the SSD a NVMe storage (or another sophisticated SSD solution) and hardware capable of sustaining higher read and write speeds compared to the current ancient embedded MMC solution, which literally is a memory card embedded on the SoC.
4k is a pipe dream, there are upscalers that can achieve 4k but the quality varies, a lot. DLSS is its own hurdle and would require certain hardware components on the SoC that Switch Pro would use. It's not very likely Nintendo has interest to pay for it and the internal resolution would have to be decent for DLSS to have any actual benefit. This means that older games may not see any benefit from DLSS solution
4k is a pipe dream, there are upscalers that can achieve 4k but the quality varies, a lot. DLSS is its own hurdle and would require certain hardware components on the SoC that Switch Pro would use. It's not very likely Nintendo has interest to pay for it and the internal resolution would have to be decent for DLSS to have any actual benefit. This means that older games may not see any benefit from DLSS solution
Oh wow, I lived under a rock I guess. I wasn't aware that so many people already had 4K in their households. :o
I'd actually prefer a 1080p handheld screen. All games running at native res and 30fps or higher. Most big third party games are running 25fps which is annoying.
SSD and quick resume would be a dream.
People who are not bothered by the astounding loading times for a game like ACNH are boggling my mind.
People who are not bothered by the astounding loading times for a game like ACNH are boggling my mind.
As someone who has been using SSDs on PC for years, 4k. Not once have I been bothered by the Switch's speed?
I voted SSD, simply to not vote 4k. I have a good Samsung 4k TV and yet resolution is the least important aspect of game visuals to me.
That's the thing with DLSS ... if you have 1080p with adequete Tensor cores, bingo bango, you have 4K resolution with a small performance overhead.
I don t care at all about 4K.
I don t have a 4K tv, 4K in portable mode don t bring anything.
But loading times could seriously be improved
I don t have a 4K tv, 4K in portable mode don t bring anything.
But loading times could seriously be improved
Via DLSS even undocked games would see significant gains though. Like DOOM Eternal undocked with DLSS would be crystal clear 720p on a Switch, not very muddy/blurry 540p or less.
And you'd probably get a higher frame rate to boot.
SSD
There is no way the new switch will have 4k
Do you remember how long Nintendo took just to go HD
There is no way the new switch will have 4k
Do you remember how long Nintendo took just to go HD
DLSS makes that irrelevant. You only need 1080p, I think even lower now (like 900p) for DLSS to take it from there and give you a 4K image.
I don't even have a 4K TV, but 4K; if it's powerful enough to do 4K, it means it'll be better supported. Switch is already blisteringly fast in most cases.
Since it already has flash storage, how about asking:
"Which is MOST important for you in a Switch Pro?"
- 4K
- 60/120fps
- Larger storage
I'm sure 60/120fps option would be dominant here.
The main reason I'm holding off from getting a Switch is because I want BOTW in 60fps.
"Which is MOST important for you in a Switch Pro?"
- 4K
- 60/120fps
- Larger storage
I'm sure 60/120fps option would be dominant here.
The main reason I'm holding off from getting a Switch is because I want BOTW in 60fps.
If the internal memory of the Switch is already flashstorage, it's probably the most insanely slow flashstorage in a device.
I haven't seen the stats but "barely in any household" sounds like a stretch. Considering pretty much every single TV in the market north of $250 is 4K, and has been for a few years now, I get the feeling that there's significant overlap between people who shop for consoles and people who have a 4K screen.
Now if we were talking about "TVs bright enough for actually decent HDR", I'd definitely agree that a tiny tiny fraction of the population owns one.
Looks at Animal Crossing......
For the love of god an SSD. The game takes waaaaaaaay too long to launch.
Plus I would much rather they focused on more realistic resolutions like 1080p if it allows to reach 60 fps. I want 30 fps to die as a standard as quickly as possible.
For the love of god an SSD. The game takes waaaaaaaay too long to launch.
Plus I would much rather they focused on more realistic resolutions like 1080p if it allows to reach 60 fps. I want 30 fps to die as a standard as quickly as possible.
I don't have a 4k tv and I play mostly in portable mode but I'd choose the 4k option if it goes with better or more stable framerate for games. And possibly nice anti aliasing via downsampling.
If the catch is more pixels but 30 or sub 30 Fps, no thanks.
It's true that PS5 load times are the true next gen surprise for me, but switch games are Ok in this regard for the most part. Cartridges and Sd cards are already pretty fast media.
If the catch is more pixels but 30 or sub 30 Fps, no thanks.
It's true that PS5 load times are the true next gen surprise for me, but switch games are Ok in this regard for the most part. Cartridges and Sd cards are already pretty fast media.
I don't own a Switch so I may be wrong on this, but don't people make great use of external storage (SD cards)?
With a custom SSD either you say goodbye to that or you force games to run with slower interfaces (which is not ideal).
Actually given the fact that SD UHS-III and SD Express pretty much don't exist (but a Switch 2 could possibly make them more popular) right now the storage situation it's a bit of a problem.
With a custom SSD either you say goodbye to that or you force games to run with slower interfaces (which is not ideal).
Actually given the fact that SD UHS-III and SD Express pretty much don't exist (but a Switch 2 could possibly make them more popular) right now the storage situation it's a bit of a problem.