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Clay

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Oct 29, 2017
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I moved a few months ago and while looking at places I was shown an apartment where someone had recently died. The women showing me the unit mentioned that it had been vacant for months and when I asked why she told me the previous tenant had died in it and that they're legally obligated to disclose that fact for a few years. I asked if they were willing to negotiate rent but apparent the complex was owned by a massive company and rents were determined each day by an algorithm, staff didn't get any say in setting rates and there was no negotiation.

I ended up finding a cheaper place at a complex I liked a lot more, but the fact that unit had stayed vacant for so long seemed really odd to me. It seems like I read very frequently that the number of religious people in the US is declining. Are there really so many superstitious people around that a place where someone died is harder to sell or rent? The tenant died of old age too, I guess I can kind of see being weirded out by living where someone was murdered, but people die at home of natural causes all the time, I don't see what the big deal would be.

And honestly I don't totally get being weirded out if someone was murdered. In college I rented a room from a women for about six months and halfway through the lease she confessed that the previous owner of the house murdered his family and committed suicide in it. I didn't really care. I never picked up on any malicious spirits or evil vibes or anything. I felt a little guilty about it but I couldn't help thinking a little less of her after she made it out to be a big deal. She even told me that sometimes she briefly saw blood on the walls, but it'd be gone the next second, and once her young niece felt hands grabbing at her when she was playing in the front yard. Somehow I'm guessing those things wouldn't have happened if she hadn't been told about the murder.

There's probably a ton of superstitious people living in potentially haunted places without knowing it since new owners or tenants only need to be notified for a few years, unless the law was written with the exact number of years it takes an evil spirit to move on.

What are Era's thoughts? Is living in a murder house asking for trouble? Or just a good excuse to try to haggle a bit?
 

KtSlime

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Oct 25, 2017
6,910
Tokyo
This is my dream, often people are worried about ghosts so the price is a bit lower. Getting a nice new condo in a good location where someone died in it would be great.
 

CHC

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Oct 27, 2017
10,247
A regular death house is fine, people die all the time. Murder house, ehhhh.... there are other houses out there. Not a ghost-fearing man, per se, but it's a bit much knowing someone was murdered in the place I am now relaxing.
 

345

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Oct 30, 2017
7,444
in japan, realtors have to tell you this sort of thing, but it's always done vaguely like "by the way, something happened here. is that a problem" and the answer is usually "no because this will knock a ton of money off the rent"
 

DGenerator

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Oct 26, 2017
1,922
Toronto, ON, Canada
In traditional boomer luck, my mom bought a two-story house with a tree in the front and a big backyard in 2001 that went down from $359k CAD to $259k over two months because an elderly lady died in the house. It's worth likely over $1.05M now.

On those kinds of terms (discounted because old people with money are superstitious), yes.
 

.exe

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Oct 25, 2017
22,315
Where someone died? Sure. Where someone was murdered? Depends. If it was some kind of insane torture house, I would probably give it a pass. My SO would end me if they found out anyway.
 

CHC

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Oct 27, 2017
10,247
Also, with a murder house, all it takes is one asshole to make a podcast about that particular murder and then people are always going to be creeping around your yard trying to sneak a peak of where it all went down. Not chill
 

KarmaCow

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Oct 25, 2017
9,175
Unless the place now has notoriety and gets weirdos gawking, I would but I would also use that stigma of ghosts or whatever for leverage on rent. I get why people would pass on it if there was no negotiation at all.
 

Fat4all

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Oct 25, 2017
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Also, with a murder house, all it takes is one asshole to make a podcast about that particular murder and then people are always going to be creeping around your yard trying to sneak a peak of where it all went down. Not chill
thats when you flip it, charge money for tours, sell tshirts
 

adj_noun

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Oct 25, 2017
17,347
I'd live in a house that had a friggin' chainsaw massacre in it if it meant I could actually afford the thing.
 
Oct 25, 2017
10,513
in japan, realtors have to tell you this sort of thing, but it's always done vaguely like "by the way, something happened here. is that a problem" and the answer is usually "no because this will knock a ton of money off the rent"
How much is a ton? Those Japanese ghosts are like extra creepy, I've seen the OG Grudge
 

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'this apartment might be haunted by ghosts' is an intriguing method of negotiating down the price of a house
 
Oct 28, 2017
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Australia
You could pretty much guarantee someone has died in every house that's older than about 40 years. I say, if you're not actually having to step over the corpse to get your laundry done, don't sweat it.
 

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It depends. Dying of old age, heart attack, that stuff is normal. I live in one if we count that.

Murder house / double suicide / etc? Nah fam, no thanks.
 

Brashnir

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Oct 25, 2017
1,236
I fully expect to in a few years. I have an agreement with my family to take over payments on my dad's retirement home when he passes.
 

Einbroch

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Oct 25, 2017
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I assume someone died at some point in one of my homes or apartments I've lived in over the years.
 

Reversed

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Oct 25, 2017
3,381
Only if it was natural causes or accidents, though the latter one could be a thin veiled murder attempt (enuff american crimi for me).
 

Volimar

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Oct 25, 2017
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Sure. Those ghosts better kick in for rent if they're going to be moving things and slamming doors.
 

ninnanuam

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Nov 24, 2017
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Natural causes not even gonna blink. Actually it's likely someone has died in my house at some point, it's really old.

With murder, it might be a sign that the neighbourhood is shitty. At that point I'd want to look into what happened.
 

skeezx

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Oct 27, 2017
20,276
lived in such a place twice, once involuntarily (found out later, gun accident with a child), then voluntarily (elderly lady, natural causes)

i have a few lame "haunted house" stories from the former (minor stuff like doors opening and closing, was probably the A/C or whatever), i was a kinda sorta spooked but figured if there's a malevolent spirit there then so what? what's the worst it can do
 

kubev

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Oct 25, 2017
7,533
California
At least three people died in the house I lived in throughout high school, and at least one of them seemed to be haunting it. They all died from natural causes, though, so it didn't really bother me. I don't think I'd want to live in a house if I was aware that someone had been murdered there, though.
 

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I mean, a relative died in this house I'm in currently (just natural causes), which is where my parent's have lived. So yeah, doesn't bother me at all. It's just a normal cause and majority of houses have had someone die at them at some point (and hopefully just due to natural causes, rather than illness or worse).

That said, I'd definitely err on the side of caution if there was crime reports or murders in the house. Mostly because there could be a history in that area, notably crime rates and stuff. I still remember I was just apartment looking in Pittsburgh and there was in one photo that had a bit of blood splattered against the wall (not like a whole lot, but enough for me to just not want to look at that further). But for natural and arguably deaths that resulted in illness? No issues, honestly.
 

Sanctuary

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Oct 27, 2017
14,247
Yes, although if someone was murdered, and the perpetrator is still at large, or the neighborhood in general is bad, then likely not. People simply "dying" in a home is pretty common and a fact of life.

In "Ozarks" they went one step ahead and bought the house someone is actually currently dying in.

Really enjoyed that show. I also wouldn't hesitate in a situation like that if it meant getting a really good deal, and the person who was living there wasn't completely alone for their final days.

If you say so, Norman....

LOL
 
Oct 27, 2017
4,018
Florida
Yes, although if someone was murdered, and the perpetrator is still at large, or the neighborhood in general is bad, then likely not. People simply "dying" in a home is pretty common and a fact of life.



Really enjoyed that show. I also wouldn't hesitate in a situation like that if it meant getting a really good deal, and the person who was living there wasn't completely alone for their final days.

I figure monarchs did it for centuries.