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Would you buy a PS Vita like handheld device that is solely used for Remote Play?
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I was able to grab one of these for iOS for like $50.no, just buy a cheap android phone and something like this
I LOVE it. Use it almost daily. Has totally replaced my Switch.
Correct, but you can buy a $6 app called PSPlay that lets you use other controllers and gives an excellent experience.
If my experience with remote play were consistently good, then yeah, in a heartbeat. I'd love to have a handheld for playing some of the bigger RPGs.
But as is, no. Remote play is really inconsistent in quality for me, and I have a wired connection for my PS5 with a 5ghz router. Steam works just fine using remote play. The PS app does not.
But as is, no. Remote play is really inconsistent in quality for me, and I have a wired connection for my PS5 with a 5ghz router. Steam works just fine using remote play. The PS app does not.
I found this on the play store https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=psplay.grill.com Does anyone know if this really works? I mean, the reviews are good, but does anyone here have experience with it?
Yes, I used the Moonlight app. Homebrew your switch at your own risk, however -- it can void your warranty or even get you banned.
But if you already use an Android phone, the Kishi is a cool accessory to use for some simple cloud gaming.
I probably would if it worked really well, but realistically there's probably not a big enough market for something like that.
Yep, that's it. I have been playing 13 Sentinels with a Kishi with it. There's occasional hangups, but I'm more often than not impressed as heck by it.
This sounds very interesting, and that's the way the official app should work.
I'd be terrified of getting my account banned for using something like that, though.
I'm honestly holding off until a new Switch revision is release before I do all of that. Normally I'd be inclined to trade my old system in if the new one plays the cartridges, however I have an OG launch Switch. I already purchased a little physical piece to let me get into the boot stuff to homebrew.
Once I eventually get a new Switch, I'll turn my old system into my homebrew device. I don't want to risk getting banned or shut out from my purchases.
No, only because there are several other devices I can use that are significantly better than the Vita when it comes to remote play now (way better screen and resolution support, better wifi, better controls, etc).
There is no homebrew app that allows me to do that as far as I know.
I think if they wanted to get more into promoting that they would just push something like the Kishi. Would be tough to get the price right on such a device, I think.
I don't know. I wouldn't be completely opposed, but there are a couple problems with that:
1. To get something up to my standards, with great screen, wifi, battery life, and good sound, it's going to be expensive. And to buy something that is single-purpose and extraneous for a high price is hard to justify.
2. I already have a great phone that can use Remote Play that, combined with my Razer Kishi (that I got one clearance for a cheap price), meets all the requirements in my previous point. It's not ideal, because it's big and bulky, buttons and triggers don't feel as high quality as a good handheld, and it wastes battery life on a device that is meant to do so much more than just that, but it makes it even harder to justify a Remote Play handheld.
Why even consider it? Because I love a nice solid feeling handheld (which Razer Kishi+phone does not), it would likely have good battery life since it wouldn't have any powerful hardware to power, and I'm a gadget fiend. But yeah, more than likely I would not be able to justify it.
1. To get something up to my standards, with great screen, wifi, battery life, and good sound, it's going to be expensive. And to buy something that is single-purpose and extraneous for a high price is hard to justify.
2. I already have a great phone that can use Remote Play that, combined with my Razer Kishi (that I got one clearance for a cheap price), meets all the requirements in my previous point. It's not ideal, because it's big and bulky, buttons and triggers don't feel as high quality as a good handheld, and it wastes battery life on a device that is meant to do so much more than just that, but it makes it even harder to justify a Remote Play handheld.
Why even consider it? Because I love a nice solid feeling handheld (which Razer Kishi+phone does not), it would likely have good battery life since it wouldn't have any powerful hardware to power, and I'm a gadget fiend. But yeah, more than likely I would not be able to justify it.
I was excited to use remote play when I got my Vita back in the day, but it worked like ass in my house. Only used it a few times.
Because that's ridiculously wasteful. My 2DS can run games for days on a single charge, and it's all thanks to highly efficient local processing. Laggy streaming of handheld games with a tethered controller would just be a massively inferior experience.
If it could directly connect to the console rather than using my wifi I'd definitely consider it. I adore using remote play on the Vita and half the reson is that it can directly connect to the PS4 itself. I've tried using remote play on my phone, laptop and pc and even when using ethernet I've never been able to get anywhere near as stable of a connection as using a Vita.
If you're content with being limited to Remote Play rather than a true portable machine like Switch or Vita then I'd suggest just using a tablet or phone with a full-function controller.
I just don't think this is a viable idea any smartphone can emulate the capability you mention and any device built solely for remote play will be so indistinguishable from a smartphone in terms of its hardware that it probably wouldn't be profitable for Sony. Such a device which would be so close to something like a lower powered Switch lite in terms of form factor would need to retail for less than the $200 that goes for.
I'd think it would be more likely Sony would re-enter the handheld market than produce a remote play only device.
I'd think it would be more likely Sony would re-enter the handheld market than produce a remote play only device.
Yeah. The thing about these remote play only devices is, why would you ever produce a device like that?
If you've got that remote play capable device, it's not a big ask to make it a fully featured handheld. You'd have to go 90% of the way anyway so why not 100%? It just doesn't make any sense to make a new handheld that doesn't function like a real handheld.
Does this work with both the official remote apps (Xbox and PlayStation)?
I use a 10" Galaxy Tab S5e to stream via Moonlight when I want to play downstairs. It works wonderfully with indiscernible lag. I have also used GeForce Now to it to replay Sleeping Dogs which wasn't as good, but nice and convenient.
PS4 streaming has always been more finikity for me than PC streaming. I have got it working acceptably now, but have yet to play a full game through using it. I stream over homeplugs at a high bitrate from my PC. Remote Play just does not have the same performance for me. To stream without noticeable lag or judder I have to move the PS4 to the same room and hard wire it to the wifi AC router in the room too.
I don't know what it is about PS4 remote play, but if I put it in the same room as my PC and hardwire it to the same router the streaming performance isn't good. It seems like there is something with the PS4 Pro itself - either hardware or software - that causes this comparably poor performance.
ETA I wouldn't buy a handheld only for Remote Play from Sony. I would consider purchasing a high quality streaming handheld as long as it was lighter than my Switch but with a slightly bigger, 1080p, screen. The sticks and buttons would have to be Vita quality. This hypothetical device would have to work with Moonlight / Steam streaming, GeForce Now, Stadia, PS4 / PS5 Remote Play, and be able to stream from Xbox. It would have to be really good as I already get an excellent experience with the S5e and Xbox One controller.
PS4 streaming has always been more finikity for me than PC streaming. I have got it working acceptably now, but have yet to play a full game through using it. I stream over homeplugs at a high bitrate from my PC. Remote Play just does not have the same performance for me. To stream without noticeable lag or judder I have to move the PS4 to the same room and hard wire it to the wifi AC router in the room too.
I don't know what it is about PS4 remote play, but if I put it in the same room as my PC and hardwire it to the same router the streaming performance isn't good. It seems like there is something with the PS4 Pro itself - either hardware or software - that causes this comparably poor performance.
ETA I wouldn't buy a handheld only for Remote Play from Sony. I would consider purchasing a high quality streaming handheld as long as it was lighter than my Switch but with a slightly bigger, 1080p, screen. The sticks and buttons would have to be Vita quality. This hypothetical device would have to work with Moonlight / Steam streaming, GeForce Now, Stadia, PS4 / PS5 Remote Play, and be able to stream from Xbox. It would have to be really good as I already get an excellent experience with the S5e and Xbox One controller.
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The original price is expensive. The current price at Walmart ($49 with Razer Hammerhead earbuds) is really attractive though. I think it's still going for that sale price?
Yes. Unlike Android, you can use 3rd party controllers for PS streaming with the official app.
thread reminds me I need to dig out my vita to rp spelunky 2 before it comes out for the switch and im tempted to double dip.
If it was truly optimized for remote play with excellent wifi, proper triggers and buttons and a decent screen, yes.
Ideally I would really like a retrogame handheld that also has a remote play client with all of the above.
I know the response here is use an android phone etc, but at least for me my samsung galaxy s9+ doesn't seem to have good enough wifi - it's laggy and unreliable.
Ideally I would really like a retrogame handheld that also has a remote play client with all of the above.
I know the response here is use an android phone etc, but at least for me my samsung galaxy s9+ doesn't seem to have good enough wifi - it's laggy and unreliable.
No, I'm tv centric, I'm either home and can be at the tv, or on my short drive to work/ at work and cannot play anything at these times anyway. So I don't need to take a system anywhere with me.
Only reason I'd buy a different form factor system is to play portable games on a tv, like the GBA player or Playstation TV. But dedicated portables with exclusive libraries are dead, I don't really need to worry about that anymore.
Only reason I'd buy a different form factor system is to play portable games on a tv, like the GBA player or Playstation TV. But dedicated portables with exclusive libraries are dead, I don't really need to worry about that anymore.
Absolutely not. The Vita was offensive with respect to ergonomics and I/O...two things such a device should nail.
Nope. I used Remote Play like once or twice and that's it
Definitely interested in a new portable device though
Definitely interested in a new portable device though