Yea, the Disney worlds felt weak this go around. Frozen especially. Maybe there's some more I don't know about, potc is the last of the revealed worlds I've got left.
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Would you be interested in a Kingdom Hearts sequel without Disney/Pixar? (POLL UPDATED, please vote again)
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Jesus Christ no. As much as I've continued to follow the series, the arrogant sidelining of the Disney content throughout the years has been a big issue for me.
I mean playing the first game I was irritated that I had to get through 2+ hours of gameplay to get to Tarzan.
I mean playing the first game I was irritated that I had to get through 2+ hours of gameplay to get to Tarzan.
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Disney and Final Fantasy are the main appeal of the franchise for me. We're already down one of those.
The whole game was built off of Disney's back, people are really wildin if they want a game without it. That shit is heartless AF!
Replace with Star Wars, Marvel, FF or even other SE ips like how we got Twewy in DDD then yeah, I'd be interested in it. I think the Disney stuff is key though for the main series but not enough to write off some different.
I'd try it. The Disney worlds usually feel like busywork with a watered-down-from-the-movie storyline (although thus far I've liked that Monstropolis takes place after the events of MI). I'm actually kinda annoyed that aside from Moogles and some cactuar mentions there doesn't seem to be any FF presence in KHIII.
No, but I would be interested in a KH game without any of the original KH characters like Sora and so on, and only play with the Disney characters.
I want more of the Disney, so no. Unless they did like... Nickelodeon cartoons or something and then I'd be on board.
I wouldn't mind it if they went nuts and focused on Square Enix worlds. Disney content is charming but it doesn't really allow for much story advancement. All the weird story beats are 100% Square.
That said I think one game is all i need of that then back to Disney.
That said I think one game is all i need of that then back to Disney.
This is me. I'm enjoying KH3 a lot but easily the worst part for me is the freaking story. Everytine some dude in a black hoody appears I groan and go "here we go again" bracing myself for more endless bullshit.
KH3 actually did a pretty decent job of integrating the Disney stuff into the plot I thought. They're always going to be a bit detached from the main arc, but the themes all connected this time and the Organization explained why they cared about what happened in them for a change, which was... nice?
But I'm a bit biased, if it weren't for the Disney stuff I honestly would probably be anywhere near as interested in the series.
But I'm a bit biased, if it weren't for the Disney stuff I honestly would probably be anywhere near as interested in the series.
I guess it depends on how interesting the replacement worlds would be. A large part of Kingdom Heart's appeal for me is visiting Disney worlds. It's just so darn neat to explore their version of what the world map would be for these various movies.
If the replacement content isn't interesting enough, I'd need the combat to seriously step things up a few notches. I'm certainly not in this for the story.
If the replacement content isn't interesting enough, I'd need the combat to seriously step things up a few notches. I'm certainly not in this for the story.
that's what ive been thinking, either that or square enix should just give it another name and characters entirely, Nintendo IP lends itself well to an idea of different worlds coming together.
The OC stuff has always been more interesting than any of the Disney movie stuff. I don't mind the Disney stuff at the core of the plot (King Mickey) and I think Goofy and Donald are awesome, but the Disney worlds are boring. I'd rather watch the movies the worlds are based off of.
Just give me a KH that's similar to the last 5 hours of KH3 with someone editing Nomura's wild ride.
I'm curious though. Do people love Disney so much to skip or ignore the KH plot? That sounds like a lot of work. May as well watch the movies again.
Just give me a KH that's similar to the last 5 hours of KH3 with someone editing Nomura's wild ride.
I'm curious though. Do people love Disney so much to skip or ignore the KH plot? That sounds like a lot of work. May as well watch the movies again.
I'd be interested in a game like that, but I don't think that's what a Kingdom Hearts sequel would need to be.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Disney own Kingdom Hearts? Would they even allow something like this?
Plus, Disney is an essential ingredient to Kingdom Hearts. Both Disney and Square Enix, like it says right above the logo.
Without either, you don't have Kingdom Hearts.
Plus, Disney is an essential ingredient to Kingdom Hearts. Both Disney and Square Enix, like it says right above the logo.
Without either, you don't have Kingdom Hearts.
Where's the option 'indifferent/depends'? I don't like the core Organization XIII story that Nomura came up with and prefer the Disney world's stories, but at the same time I like the KH games largely because of the fun combat. After all, I was looking forward to Versus XIII because it had KH style combat but not based around Disney worlds.
Disagree. I find the Disney aspects often to be the absolutely worst parts of the series as they're almost purely filler. 3 treats it a bit better, but it still doesn't hold a candle to the main, overarching story.
for me the original appeal came from the collab of FF and Disney but since FF pretty much got the boot and most of the focus now is on the original cast anyway i don't really need disney stuff in it anymore anyway.
It doesn't matter. Disney is the reason why the game was made, Disney is what attracts mainstream audiences. The main, overarching story sucks and no one cares for it or actively dislikes it.
I mean Disney owns KH, a sequel doesn't happen without the house of mouse. This isn't even a hypothetical situation.
I'd play them either way but I can't possibly see even the most minute chance that Disney could stop being part of these games so I honestly don't see what the point of the question is.
Kingdom Heart's entire existence is to be a Disney game. That's its identity down to its very core. Kingdom Hearts literally doesn't exist without Disney.
Kingdom Heart's entire existence is to be a Disney game. That's its identity down to its very core. Kingdom Hearts literally doesn't exist without Disney.
In hopes that more time is spent carefully laying out the world and lore and story mechanics, yes.
For a long time the Disney aspect was in large part the main draw of the Kingdom Hearts games for me, but upon revisiting them as of late and going into KH3, I'm finding it's a pretty shallow visitation to each Disney World that operates a lot more like filler than substantive character or plot growth.
Just under assumption that the afforded extra time might make things make a bit more sense to confused folks like me that just can't seem to follow or wrap their head around what the hell is actually going on in Kingdom Hearts, I think it might be best for the series to focus more on its own identity so that these games might make me feel something other than the obvious appeal to my lifelong Disney film fanship and decent action RPG gameplay with tons of visual spectacle.
For a long time the Disney aspect was in large part the main draw of the Kingdom Hearts games for me, but upon revisiting them as of late and going into KH3, I'm finding it's a pretty shallow visitation to each Disney World that operates a lot more like filler than substantive character or plot growth.
Just under assumption that the afforded extra time might make things make a bit more sense to confused folks like me that just can't seem to follow or wrap their head around what the hell is actually going on in Kingdom Hearts, I think it might be best for the series to focus more on its own identity so that these games might make me feel something other than the obvious appeal to my lifelong Disney film fanship and decent action RPG gameplay with tons of visual spectacle.
The Disney part of kingdom hearts is like 75-80% percent of the game and some of you are saying it's the worst of it? Why are you playing it? It's kinda weird honestly
Honestly I'm invested enough in the KH universe that I'd bite.
They would never do it though, it'd be a suicidal move for the franchise. Disney owns it outright anyway, you'd sooner see a Kingdom Hearts game that only had Mickey and other Disney characters (so no Sora, Riku, Kairi, Organization, etc) than one without them.
They would never do it though, it'd be a suicidal move for the franchise. Disney owns it outright anyway, you'd sooner see a Kingdom Hearts game that only had Mickey and other Disney characters (so no Sora, Riku, Kairi, Organization, etc) than one without them.
I'd be happy if we kept Disney but branched out to other types of worlds. I don't have much interest in multiple iterations of the same Disney worlds over and over again like Olympus and the properties that are left are bottom of the barrel unless we add Star Wars and Marvel to mix, which I'm all for. Video game worlds and Shonen Jump worlds, hell yeah. Heart of the cards and the shadowrealm write themselves.
I mean, the main overarching story really just exists as a reason to go explore the Disney worlds, occasionally started by or capped off with some original content. When you've got a member of the OG cast commenting on how confusing everything's gotten, Donald and Goofy trying to explain what they can and then throwing their hands up when yet another new thing gets thrown in the mix and other characters just handwaving the in-universe explanations by calling it all nonsense (despite actually being the case), it's pretty clear that it's just a framework for everything else to happen.
This isn't even a "kingdom hearts story sucks lol" statement, I love following all the nonsense in the series. But without any of the Disney stuff to fill out the experience, the OG stuff is pretty shallow and just becomes a bunch of characters shouting nonsense about hearts without any of the underlying Disney coding to define it.
Sure if it had a different aesthetic. Enemy design in Kingdom Hearts is really ugly and really only fit with that Disney aesthetic.