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Who Wins

  • Neji was right.

    Votes: 81 31.4%
  • Primary Lotus

    Votes: 177 68.6%

  • Total voters
    258

Lotus

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
106,525
Rock Lee lost like a million times to Neji didn't he? Don't see that changing in the Chunin Exams
 
Oct 26, 2017
19,840
I keep meaning to make an RTTP thread for original Naruto. I just finished a full rewatch with my son, and I hadn't seen since it originally aired. It aged way better than expected.
 

Weiss

User requested ban
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
64,265
On one hand most people can beat Neji

On the other hand Rock Lee's main power is losing
 

smurfx

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,622
rock lee trained with neji so he knew what he can do and with gates he would have demolished him.
 

Sleve McDichael

Avenger
Oct 28, 2017
1,758
In the Chunin Exams, if you remove all plot armor, Rock Lee would have fucked up literally everybody, other than Gaara.

Rock Lee got the shit end of the stick. Best character in the series.
 

brinstar

User requested ban
Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,350
Neji needed to take a fatal blow just to counter Kidoumaru's arrows. He can't do shit to Rock Lee at full speed.
 

The Silver

Member
Oct 28, 2017
10,748
Neji is getting clapped once the gates come man out I don't wanna hear otherwise. Gaara was the worst possible opponent ever for Gated Lee.
 

Oddish1

Member
Oct 25, 2017
2,830
It was a plot point that Neji was better than Lee. Like, that was partially what Lee's motivation was for training so hard. It was to force Neji to acknowledge him.
 

VariantX

Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,932
Columbia, SC
Rock Lee lost like a million times to Neji didn't he? Don't see that changing in the Chunin Exams

Rock Lee wasn't even allowed to use his full power by Guy. He got chewed out for even using primary lotus against Sasuke. Its just one of those things that we don't know. Lee was only given permission to go all out when he fought Gaara.
 

Blackie

Member
Oct 25, 2017
1,644
Wherever
IMO Rock Lee would have won. Naruto did not end up winning thanks to any super special techniques, it was mostly raw Kyuubi power/stamina. Lee with primary lotus and his gates seems like it would have been similar enough to also overpower Neji's "ultimate" spinning defense.
 

Normal

Member
Oct 26, 2017
6,296
Rock Lee would have crushed him. Dude was the second(third if you count Naruto and his ninetails chakra) strongest genin at that point, he just got unlucky with his match up before the finals. Dude ended up just fighting the strongest genin.
 
OP
OP
Soapbox Killer
Oct 28, 2017
27,426
Rock Lee would have crushed him. Dude was the second strongest genin at that point, he just got unlucky with his match up before the finals. Dude ended up just fighting the strongest.

Who was the Strongest?



Also doesn't the Byakugan and the 64 palms tech negate whatever Rock Lee was going to do?
 
Nov 17, 2017
12,864
People are sleeping on Neji. Just cause a character has shown more explosive power doesn't mean they're always the sure win - it's not Dragon Ball. Neji is less of a power house like Lee and more about deadly precision which Lee is weak against. The 8 Gates aren't even a factor in this fight because the moment Neji touches Lee, he's blocking his chakra points. No chakra flow, no 8 Gates.

Neji needed to take a fatal blow just to counter Kidoumaru's arrows. He can't do shit to Rock Lee at full speed.
Kidomaru was a hard counter to Neji. Neji is a pure close range taijutsu fighter and Kidomaru is all about range. In fact, Kidomaru stayed out of Neji's range for most of the fight because he knew Neji would wreck his shit if he got close. Lee has to get close to Neji to fight him and at that range, Lee loses imo.

Edit: Also Kidomaru exploited the Byakugan's blindspot. Lee can't do that.
 

VariantX

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Oct 25, 2017
16,932
Columbia, SC
Who was the Strongest?



Also doesn't the Byakugan and the 64 palms tech negate whatever Rock Lee was going to do?

Its a question of speed really. I don't think Neji wins this because Lee was moving so damn fast that even Gaara's automatic defense couldn't keep up. Theres also the fact that Neji literally had no way of knowing anything about Lee's full speed and power in advance because as stated, he simply was not allowed to show off his full abilities until the match with Gaara.
 

DJwest

Member
Oct 26, 2017
7,187
It was a plot point that Neji was better than Lee. Like, that was partially what Lee's motivation was for training so hard. It was to force Neji to acknowledge him.
Yes, and Rock Lee surpassed him. Like, Neji couldn't believe his eyes when Gated Rock was ravaging Gaara. And I remember Lee saying that he was saving his Gates techniques for Neji. He should be grateful he didn't have to face Lee

People are sleeping on Neji. Just cause a character has shown more explosive power doesn't mean they're always the sure win - it's not Dragon Ball. Neji is less of a power house like Lee and more about deadly precision which Lee is weak against. The 8 Gates aren't even a factor in this fight because the moment Neji touches Lee, he's blocking his chakra points. No chakra flow, no 8 Gates.
Neji probably would not even be able to keep up with Rock with his weights off. Why do you assume that Neji would be able to hit him in the first place lol. Lee wins
 

BlackJace

The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
5,478
Lee would've stomped Neji. Neji's byakugan wouldn't be able to keep up with Lee at full speed.
 
Feb 15, 2019
2,546
If you look at things reasonably yeah, Rock Lee would've beaten the living shit out of Neji. Dude lost to Naruto lol.

Too bad this is Naruto though so if they actually did fight Kishimoto would've found a way for Lee to lose.
 

RPGam3r

Member
Oct 27, 2017
13,661
Neji ability works directly against Lee's gates. When met with a strong defense Lee failed, Neji's precision defense is also very strong.

People always overestimating Lee's ability, not to mention its entirely self destructive and can't be sustained compared to most other abilities.
 

WetWaffle

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Oct 25, 2017
4,621
Neji ability works directly against Lee's gates. When met with a strong defense Lee failed, Neji's precision defense is also very strong.

People always overestimating Lee's ability, not to mention its entirely self destructive and can't be sustained compared to most other abilities.
Neji's defense is nowhere as strong or as fast as a Tailed beast's power. Neji gets stomped once weights come off.
 
Oct 29, 2017
962
In a real match up that's not sparring neji would have blocked Lee's chakra ASAP. Means no gates. Means another L.
 

WetWaffle

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Oct 25, 2017
4,621
how fast do the weights come off? how does lee get around the spin shield thing
Neji can't do it forever, plus as kimimaro showed, neji is vulnerable if someone attacks the moment the rotation ends, which lee is fast enough to do. Lee would just have to bait neji to do a rotation.
 
Nov 17, 2017
12,864
Neji probably would not even be able to keep up with Rock with his weights off. Why do you assume that Neji would be able to hit him in the first place lol. Lee wins
Neji is faster than people give him credit for. He doesn't run around like Lee does because he's a more defensive, reactionary fighter which makes him seem slower. When the dude uses his 8 trigrams, he's fast as fuck.

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Neji is not slow. Honestly, I think the fact that Lee got the super high budget fight against Gaara inflates people's idea of his capabilities. It makes him look faster than he is. Sasuke was able to get to Lee's speed with a month of training when just before that Lee walked all over him WITH weights. Someone of Neji's calibur can keep up with Lee and Neji is a hard counter to Lee. Lee needs to step into Neji's domain to fight him and once he does, Neji is going to block his chakra points crippling his abilities.
 

Sou Da

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,738
Neji is faster than people give him credit for. He doesn't run around like Lee does because he's a more defensive, reactionary fighter which makes him seem slower. When the dude uses his 8 trigrams, he's fast as fuck.

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Neji is not slow. Honestly, I think the fact that Lee got the super high budget fight against Gaara inflates people's idea of his capabilities. It makes him look faster than he is. Sasuke was able to get to Lee's speed with a month of training when just before that Lee walked all over him WITH weights. Someone of Neji's calibur can keep up with Lee and Neji is a hard counter to Lee. Lee needs to step into Neji's domain to fight him and once he does, Neji is going to block his chakra points crippling his abilities.
Yeah like the minute that dude hits Neji, he's just gonna get hit with a chakra block counter
 

RPGam3r

Member
Oct 27, 2017
13,661
Lee only wins if he cuts his pride, goes no weights and opens gates from the first moment.

Otherwise Lee loses. Or in other words, he'd for sure lose.
 
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