i haven't seen a single paper mario fan give a damn about games outside of their spin-off, so yeah i agree
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WORLD'S WORST MARIO GAME?
- Thread starter OmegaNeon
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Paper Mario fan & Mario fan right here! Mario is my favorite franchise overall.
So i do mean it with 100% sincerity when i say that Color Splash is the worst Nintendo made Mario game, spinoff or otherwise.
I liked NSMB, it is in retrospect bland and inferior to the classic 2D Mario games. However it felt like such a breath of fresh air in 2006 to have a brand new 2D Mario game on a handheld no less, and it was a neat mix of old and new. Many things from the 3D games were brought over into 2D which was novel at the time. The original NSMB had its own identity and didn't just shamelessly copy-paste the previous games. The rest of the NSMB line i don't really care for as they are nothing but less expansion packs to the original NSMB.
i mostly wish that NSMB2 went full-tilt on an arcade-y bend by making it less about the traditional mario platforming with lives and shit and more about score attacks
it's more fun to have all those numbers go up when i'm trying to go for a score than just having all those coins go into my lives
it's more fun to have all those numbers go up when i'm trying to go for a score than just having all those coins go into my lives
Honestly Galaxy was probably the most disappointing to me. Sunshine is my fav nintendo game ever so I was hyped as hell for galaxy but it was such a step down imo. Hated the worse camera using dpad and controls with no second stick. And the cursor on the screen was an annoying gimmick. Also didnt like the smaller linear level design. So while its surely not the worst, its def one of my least favorites.
I get that you have more freedom of control
in Sunshine, but... the camera is glitchier in Sunshine. Gets stuck in walls and behind objects with pretty regular frequency.
TIL people actually like Sunshine's camera... Which frequently clips in to walls.
Worst 3D Mario: Sunshine - for me it just has too few pure platforming sections. Fludd is fun, but goop cleaning was only fun in small doses. Odyssey did this style better.
Worst 2D Mario: Super Mario Bros 2 (japan/lost levels). - Basically just first party Kaizo Mario. Not for me.
Worst 3D Mario: Sunshine - for me it just has too few pure platforming sections. Fludd is fun, but goop cleaning was only fun in small doses. Odyssey did this style better.
Worst 2D Mario: Super Mario Bros 2 (japan/lost levels). - Basically just first party Kaizo Mario. Not for me.
For pretty much 99% of the cases you press the L trigger and it gets recentered behind Mario. If it starts moving on it's own, which only occured in the ferris wheel level then you pull the camera back (Zoom out) and it solves the issue. The biggest issue with the Galaxy camera was not the lack of controls but it was far too zoomed in on several parts.
Mario Game Gallery, specifically "Mario Go Fish"
... beaten by three minutes, apparently there are other unfortunate souls out there who played this game growing up
... beaten by three minutes, apparently there are other unfortunate souls out there who played this game growing up
I've never been more disappointed in a Mario game than I was with Mario is Missing as a kid. It looked like a new Mario game.
As far as mainline Super Mario games go, it was probably Galaxy for me. Didn't like anything about it and dropped it early on. I don't remember playing Sunshine for very long either.
It's just not as well designed as the other mario games.
And then the levels start repeating..
And then the camera kills you half the time...
I just think the greater freedom of control more than makes up for the glitchiness that didnt really ever bother me and is easy to compensate for. The fact that Sunshine from 2002 was the last 3D mario to include a real freecam until Odyssey says alot and is kinda sad.
I think this should be by categories. Only rating games I've actually played. Not necessarily beaten but at least played a bit.
Worst overall: Mario is Missing. This game fooled me as a kid at Blockbuster. I am still a bit salty.
Worst main 2D game: New Super Mario Bros 2 on 3ds. There are a couple of duds in this genre but this is the blandest of them all.
Worst main 3D game: Super Mario 64. I think age hasn't been amazing for this game imo. I loved it back in the 90s but I think Nintendo has consistently surpassed it. The garbage N64 controller doesn't help either.
Worst Mario Party Game: Island Tour on 3ds. I just didn't get much fun out of this one. Star Rush and the Top 100 were much better packages overall.
Worst Mario Sports Game: That Wii U Mario Tennis game. It was so barebones. The 3ds one wasn't much better.
Worst Mario RPG: Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time: I actually think this and Paper Jam are a bit on the dull side. I don't think any of these or the Paper Mario games are bad though.
Worst overall: Mario is Missing. This game fooled me as a kid at Blockbuster. I am still a bit salty.
Worst main 2D game: New Super Mario Bros 2 on 3ds. There are a couple of duds in this genre but this is the blandest of them all.
Worst main 3D game: Super Mario 64. I think age hasn't been amazing for this game imo. I loved it back in the 90s but I think Nintendo has consistently surpassed it. The garbage N64 controller doesn't help either.
Worst Mario Party Game: Island Tour on 3ds. I just didn't get much fun out of this one. Star Rush and the Top 100 were much better packages overall.
Worst Mario Sports Game: That Wii U Mario Tennis game. It was so barebones. The 3ds one wasn't much better.
Worst Mario RPG: Mario and Luigi: Partners in Time: I actually think this and Paper Jam are a bit on the dull side. I don't think any of these or the Paper Mario games are bad though.
Mario World is a 2D game though!
I think if we limit to the main line games, either Super Mario Bros 2 (USA) or Super Mario Land is the worst.
This is my vote. Fuck that game.My second vote
What a disgrace to the Paper Mario name
I long for the days when Paper Mario was good ;_;
I think age has hurt Mario 64, but I think Sunshine is worse for how much of the game is busywork in comparison.
If we only count first party mainline stuff. I'd say it's probably Super Mario Bros as everything after it improved on it.