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Blue Lou

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A yearlong BuzzFeed News investigation across six countries — based on more than 100 interviews and thousands of pages of documents, including confidential memos, internal budgets, and emails discussing weapons purchases — can reveal:

  • Villagers have been whipped with belts, attacked with machetes, beaten unconscious with bamboo sticks, sexually assaulted, shot, and murdered by WWF-supported anti-poaching units, according to reports and documents obtained by BuzzFeed News.
  • The charity's field staff in Asia and Africa have organised anti-poaching missions with notoriously vicious shock troops, and signed off on a proposal to kill trespassers penned by a park director who presided over the killings of dozens of people.
  • WWF has provided paramilitary forces with salaries, training, and supplies — including knives, night vision binoculars, riot gear, and batons — and funded raids on villages. In one African country, it embroiled itself in a botched arms deal to buy assault rifles from a brutal army that has paraded the streets with the severed heads of alleged "criminals.
  • The charity has operated like a global spymaster, organizing, financing, and running dangerous and secretive networks of informants motivated by "fear" and "revenge," including within indigenous communities, to provide park officials with intelligence — all while publicly denying working with informants.
WWF has launched an "independent review" led by human rights specialists into the evidence uncovered by BuzzFeed News. "We see it as our urgent responsibility to get to the bottom of the allegations BuzzFeed has made, and we recognize the importance of such scrutiny," the charity said in a statement.

More at https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tomwarren/wwf-world-wide-fund-nature-parks-torture-death
 

LazyLain

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Damn World Wide Fund for Nature, You Scary.

Pretty fucking disgusting if this is true. I don't personally know how reputable BuzzFeed is when it comes to their investigative journalism though.
 

IDreamOfHime

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There's gonna be so many people supporting this. I don't even want to read social media comments about this news...
 

OwOtacon

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Can someone recommend me a good wildlife charity? WWF was my one of choice, but I'm pulling my yearly donation now.

Feel guilty for ever supporting them.
 
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There's gonna be so many people supporting this. I don't even want to read social media comments about this news...
Yep. Shame on them.

PETA and WWF, the hell are wrong with these groups? Terrorists.

EDIT: Yep, and they came through ignoring what is happening because "tHEy'RE kILLing poACHeRZ".
Some people...I swear.

If you're fine with torturing people to get to poachers then you can go fuck yourself. Terrorist sympathizers.
 
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Jeb

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Disgusting.
Stuff like this makes feel paranoid with charities these days, which is terrible because you don't need something stopping you from helping those who need it the most.
 

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I know of a group of ex special forces people who may have ties to this. They go out and train the rangers, supply better guns, and help them piece together their own worn out gear.

WWF is pretty much contracting mercenary groups.

I guess the poachers were getting bold, so WWF thought that they could win by terrorizing the population into giving them up. The poachers usually have more up to date equipment and heavier firepower. WWF's response is fighting fire with fire.

They have no experience with diplomacy, so of course the villages are going to suffer.
 
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Cycas

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Hopefully outlining instances, the vast majority of rangers are from of local communities, some are even ex-poachers and they put in some amazing work and without them there'd be no more Rhinos, Tigers and we'd probably be on our last Elephants.
 

Airegin

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Can someone recommend me a good wildlife charity? WWF was my one of choice, but I'm pulling my yearly donation now.

Feel guilty for ever supporting them.

I'm pretty sure WWF is still the best one (international at least). Both PETA and Greenpeace are worse.

This seems like WWF's intentions were good but things got way out of hand.
 

Username1198

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Can someone recommend me a good wildlife charity? WWF was my one of choice, but I'm pulling my yearly donation now.

Feel guilty for ever supporting them.

I donate to

https://www.awf.org/

I beleive it was rated A grade from CharityWatch.com which means most of the money you donate actually goes to the charity. With awf I beleive only 3% goes to admin fees, 10% fundraising

OT I don't even know what's to say.....this is going to blow up for sure. Crazy af
 

Famassu

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I don't personally see anything wrong if poachers are killed while people are defending animals from them but some of these methods surrounding the activity, jeesh. :S
 

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WWF is prime example of a Western NGO that is built to maximize its returns from western consumers built on the values of old money aristocrats - it's not even a very good conservation movement nowaydays... no matter its flaws, I'd recommend "WWF - Silence of the Pandas", which you can watch legally here: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x105tsl
 

danmaku

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This seems like WWF's intentions were good but things got way out of hand.

This. Maybe they put their trust in the wrong people. The poaching business is brutal, these people are desperate and you won't stop them without violence, but funding a full fledged private army is absurd.
 

Airegin

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This. Maybe they put their trust in the wrong people. The poaching business is brutal, these people are desperate and you won't stop them without violence, but funding a full fledged private army is absurd.

They honestly should have known though. Giving people weapons never ends well.
 

Zoc

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I know a lot of poachers are armed to the teeth and wouldn't flinch at killing park rangers, so to some degree fighting back will get dirty - but it's a slippery slope to turning into the bad guy yourself. I hoe WEF can pull themselves back from the brink.
 

Zastava

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Hopefully outlining instances, the vast majority of rangers are from of local communities, some are even ex-poachers and they put in some amazing work and without them there'd be no more Rhinos, Tigers and we'd probably be on our last Elephants.
This does not excuse torturing and murdering people, and if you read the article, it details cases in which WWF funded rangers have waterboarded and beaten people to death without any evidence the victims had anything to do with poaching.

WWF lobbied the Nepalese government to drop the case against the murderers, and is actively complicit in cover-ups.

I believe strongly in animal conservation but, and this shouldn't be fucking controversial, draw the line at torture and murder.
 

degauss

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I imagine it's hard to hire rangers in third world countries who are protecting species with lethal force, and not have a certain percentage of corruption, unnecessary violence and turmoil. I imagine that is a murky, tumultuous thing to have to try to manage and police.
 

Zastava

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I imagine it's hard to hire rangers in third world countries who are protecting species with lethal force, and not have a certain percentage of corruption, unnecessary violence and turmoil. I imagine that is a murky, tumultuous thing to have to try to manage and police.
I imagine they should probably not ignore, downplay, excuse and cover up torture and murder but you do you.
 

Zelas

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I imagine they should probably not ignore, downplay, excuse and cover up torture and murder but you do you.
I think the question is how much of this is localized. BuzzFeed isnt suggesting this was sanctioned all the way from the top. Things are going to fall through the cracks in an organization with this much coverage.

Staffers in the charity's in-country field offices are supposed to report any allegations of brutality back to its headquarters in Switzerland. But documents reveal WWF's own staffers on the ground are often deeply entwined with the rangers' work— coordinating their operations, jointly directing their raids and patrols alongside government officials, and turning a blind eye to their misdeeds.

Headquarters can't ignore what they never knew in 100 countries. Let's start with awful oversight from HQ instead of accusing them of personally signing off on murder.
 

smurfx

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I bet all their leadership are just fine with those tactics since it's only third world people being killed.
 
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I am ok with this as long as the people they are killing are poachers.
 

Keikaku

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Poachers are scum. I'm donating to wwf asap.
 

Alavard

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I'm pretty sure WWF is still the best one (international at least). Both PETA and Greenpeace are worse.

This seems like WWF's intentions were good but things got way out of hand.

The rangers believed that Shikharam helped his son bury a rhinoceros horn in his backyard. They couldn't find the horn, but they threw Shikharam in their jail anyway.

Nine days later, he was dead.

An autopsy showed seven broken ribs and "blue marks and bruises" all over his body. Seven eyewitnesses corroborated his wife's account of nonstop beatings.

WWF's staff on the ground in Nepal leaped into action — not to demand justice, but to lobby for the charges to disappear. When the Nepalese government dropped the case months later, the charity declared it a victory in the fight against poaching. Then WWF Nepal continued to work closely with the rangers and fund the park as if nothing had happened.

Ah yes, good intentions.