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World of Warcraft: Shadowlands |OT| Anima Crossing: New Prison
- Thread starter Prophet Five
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forme it's weird you being fine with that tho, you said it yourself, you had to change for no reason other "one thing didnt unlock at the same time as the other". I get not bothering you or rolling with it or whatever, but agreeing with it?
Exactly.
that's another can of worms in itself.
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Yeah, idk, it makes sense to me. The Soulbinds are meant to have similar appeal once they're fully unlocked, but that doesn't mean they keep parity all the way through. When you first picked up Soulbinds (months ago, at like Renown 2) and only had the earliest traits available, your Soulbind calculus might have been different than once you had fully unlocked them (example: Dreamweaver getting a power spike from unlocking his second Potency early, even though Niya is the single target DPS Soulbind for most people once fully unlocked).
I also didn't "have" to change to Korayn in my example. The values that I use to make my choices just temporarily changed for one week, and it was up to me what to do with that information. TBH I don't even remember if I actually bothered to change to Korayn since it was the awkward pre-season week, but I definitely noted it as an option. My third best Potency conduit is small enough that, if I had been using Korayn for something else, I probably would have actively made the decision to not bother reshuffling everything for only one week.
It might just be a difference with how we view Soulbinds. You compared them to class specs (a "character defining" choice that you typically dedicate yourself to), but I see them more as "tactical" options that I might change for different fights, M+ affixes, or PvP comps. Their individual values are changing all the time, so having them progress at slightly different rates feels like a natural extension of the sorts of decision making that the system is already built for.
We'll just agree to disagree. :D I can see how, if you view Soulbinds as something you want to "lock in", then having them progress at different rates would feel weird and go against that.
(I guess this goes back to my earlier post on how different players view the game differently, lol.)
I also didn't "have" to change to Korayn in my example. The values that I use to make my choices just temporarily changed for one week, and it was up to me what to do with that information. TBH I don't even remember if I actually bothered to change to Korayn since it was the awkward pre-season week, but I definitely noted it as an option. My third best Potency conduit is small enough that, if I had been using Korayn for something else, I probably would have actively made the decision to not bother reshuffling everything for only one week.
It might just be a difference with how we view Soulbinds. You compared them to class specs (a "character defining" choice that you typically dedicate yourself to), but I see them more as "tactical" options that I might change for different fights, M+ affixes, or PvP comps. Their individual values are changing all the time, so having them progress at slightly different rates feels like a natural extension of the sorts of decision making that the system is already built for.
We'll just agree to disagree. :D I can see how, if you view Soulbinds as something you want to "lock in", then having them progress at different rates would feel weird and go against that.
(I guess this goes back to my earlier post on how different players view the game differently, lol.)
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The reason for the controversy was that WoW changed most cooldowns from being off-GCD to being on-GCD. The resistance was to the change, not to on-GCD cooldowns existing in the first place. I think the players were largely right to complain there, given that this behaviour for many of these cooldowns were subsequently reverted in Shadowlands - though we're now in a situation where there are bizarre inconsistencies across classes and specs (e.g. why is Pillar of Frost off-GCD but Dark Transformation is on-GCD?).
Once I get my steam deck (Q1 2022) I am going to install wow on it and work on configuring the controller to work for it lol.... bad idea? Or genius level? I think I could get by some light gaming on it. Nothing serious like raiding I would imagine. But I am pretty sure a customized controller set up could easily handle all the inputs.
Or I could just plug a mouse and keyboard into it lol... I got an extra mechanical keyboard... would just need another mouse.
Or I could just plug a mouse and keyboard into it lol... I got an extra mechanical keyboard... would just need another mouse.
Echo was so damn close to killing Mythic Sylvannas just now. 51.2%. What a great World First Race this has been
Ya apparently you have to get her to 45% on Mythic, in the patch notes it mentioned how her health to win was lowered by 5% on Normal and Heroic but no one caught it.
i was really surprised they werent aware of the 45% to have at least been aware of that happen but still their reactions had real
energy
Yeah, I just saw. You see Painsmith on mythic? That shit looks bonkers.
Finished up Normal SoD last night and got 4 down in Heroic. I'm up to 3 Domination Sockets also, so that's exciting! (Though I don't have a completed set bonus yet.)
The difficulty curve for SoD is definitely funky. Normal mode was something like Fatescribe > Painsmith > Kel'Thuzad = Sylvanas >> Everyone else.
Sylvanas was fun, though I can definitely see how P2 will get tiring when you're trying to prog on Heroic P3.
The difficulty curve for SoD is definitely funky. Normal mode was something like Fatescribe > Painsmith > Kel'Thuzad = Sylvanas >> Everyone else.
Sylvanas was fun, though I can definitely see how P2 will get tiring when you're trying to prog on Heroic P3.
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Wow I will keep using moonlight on my ipad with the apple keyboard and mouse but FF14 is gonna be all up on my steam deck.
Looks like Echo wins
www.wowhead.com
Echo Claims World First Mythic Sylvanas Windrunner Kill
After 169 pulls, Echo has conquered the final 5% and claimed the World First Mythic Sylvanas Windrunner kill and Sanctum of Domination clear. Congratulations to them!
www.wowhead.com
Huh? I literally did that yesterday. That's weird. I even managed to catch all the way up in renoun.
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went back to a old covenant you mean? Well I went to talk to the Kyrian guy earlier this week and he just gave me the usual "prove your worth" quest :/
edit: just went back there to make sure and yeah, this is what he says as usual
maybe it's because Kyrian wasn't my FIRST covenant? I was Nightfae -> Kyrian -> Venthyr.
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It's been entertaining seeing how well the arms warriors in the top guilds have done this raid. From what I see it looks like they've all gone Night Fae however and I personally don't really want to swap out of Venthyr, especially as my Warrior is more for PvP than anything else. I also don't want to have to start from 0.
on one of limit's last few pulls they had a kill pull going ahead in damage and people up and had one of the most unfortunate DCs to one of their pallys and just fucked them for that pull and then i think the tiredness just set in finally after like 16hrs.
Gratz to Echo on the win! Insanely close race.
It was a one-time forgiveness of "Covenant sin", not a permanent change to the rules. So if you left the Kyrian once already in 9.1, then you'll have to do the quest to rejoin them.
It was a one-time forgiveness of "Covenant sin", not a permanent change to the rules. So if you left the Kyrian once already in 9.1, then you'll have to do the quest to rejoin them.
I think this was the issue. Oh well, its done now after the reset no biggie. Speaking of, I found out you can fill the entire "prove your worth" bar with those 4 endlessly respawning rares in south bastion (the ones people use for the coins calling usually), so that was neat... and not intended in the slightest I have to imagine haha
Good guy Muffinus:
It gives me hope to see current WoW devs being so militant against how the corporate voice has handled this, and demanding a statement. Curious to see what we'll get from the game's directors and producers in the weeks to come. This would have been the window of time we'd start to see 9.2 news, I imagine, and surely a lot of work has been done on that front, but it's secondary to how they plan to reform and address the issues brought up by the suit.
It gives me hope to see current WoW devs being so militant against how the corporate voice has handled this, and demanding a statement. Curious to see what we'll get from the game's directors and producers in the weeks to come. This would have been the window of time we'd start to see 9.2 news, I imagine, and surely a lot of work has been done on that front, but it's secondary to how they plan to reform and address the issues brought up by the suit.
Apparently Preach is giving up WoW content now, besides Drama Time. What a shame, but I respect him for doing so. I am struggling right now with justifying paying a subscription fee that will be used to fight this lawsuit.
The game really needs a win. It feels like they haven't had one for a long time now.
The game really needs a win. It feels like they haven't had one for a long time now.
For anyone following along with the current story, I've been kind to Shadowlands because I think the Lore right now is super interesting, but the story telling problems I think have hit their apex with this Elune business. I won't say what it is for spoiler reasons if that matters to you, but at least imo it's entirely unearned and as it stands, fucking stupid. It could have worked if they actually put in the time to set it up, but they didn't. At this rate I just don't get it. I think and hope in the wake of everything going on, that the WoW team comes together as a unit and really rethinks their approach to the game.
I just.....don't understand how it can be satisfying to write a plot that strictly relies on major characters being fucking idiots.
I just.....don't understand how it can be satisfying to write a plot that strictly relies on major characters being fucking idiots.
Nothing in the cinematic screamed 'Elune is a fucking idiot' to me 🤷
In many ways I just don't understand how Elune could learn/understand Ardenweld is having a severe anima drought but have 0 idea as to why. If Ardenweld is not getting anima, then the Arbiter is not sending it clearly. Why was there any faith the souls would go there? So to me this is being framed as she saw the tragedy happening, but didn't step in to help thinking all those souls could help Ardenweld which ultimately ended up being for nothing since they all went to the Maw anyway. What happens after we don't know since it ends hinting those souls have a great purpose and so on.
It's a big fucking decision to get so wrong despite the what I can image are giant fucking warning signs and worse yet it's not earned. I for the life of me do not understand how Blizzard seemingly went out of their way to disengage the player/story from the Night Elves after burning their home and funneling us off to BFA/Old God bullshit. Yet we're coming back to it in a very impactful way story/lore wise, just matter of factly.
A message from the WoW team went up about the past few days. It's not much but they're at least removing any references in the game to known abusers.
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23703199/a-message-from-the-world-of-warcraft-team
https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/23703199/a-message-from-the-world-of-warcraft-team
That is not what is implied, at all. She didn't orchestrate it at all, but used the tragedy (as she herself calls it) to send the souls of Night Elves to the Winter Queen rather than turn them into wisps.
As for how she didn't know they were going to the Maw? Noone in the Shadowlands noticed, so there's that. No reason to expect Elune to know.
As for how she didn't know they were going to the Maw? Noone in the Shadowlands noticed, so there's that. No reason to expect Elune to know.
In my opinion:
edit: yeah what Noppie said
Elune says "in the wake of tragedy, sent forth the cascade of souls to sustain you"
That does not mean that she cause / influenced Sylvanas's burning of Teldrassil, it just means that, in her own words, "in the wake of tragedy" she made the best of a bad situation. What was the alternative, they all become Wisps I guess?
That does not mean that she cause / influenced Sylvanas's burning of Teldrassil, it just means that, in her own words, "in the wake of tragedy" she made the best of a bad situation. What was the alternative, they all become Wisps I guess?
edit: yeah what Noppie said
You mean like the one for Garrosh were he ended up escaping, and then the Eternals said it was over because they were actually judging the others at the trial?
Blizzard does not believe in justice for victims. Those who judge the perpetrator are the REAL villain's according to them.
yes that was the reference
the 4 guys from the shadowlands can be the judges now and then say the mortals were bad for being mean to sylv
are you really trying to make a connection between the awful shit going on at Blizz with their writing?
like... really?
No. They've been setting up the message of "wanting justice is wrong" ever since the beginning of Shadowlands. It's very obvious.
Here is my prediction for the future plot:
With all her soul back Sylvanas will feel really bad about the stuff she's done guys. She is the only one who has the knowledge to beat the Jailer! All the NPC's will agree that punishing is wrong and if you feel she should be punished for her crimes you are bad. You will have to take quests from her. She will sacrifice herself and become the new Arbiter (the Arbiter is basically an empty set of clothes). You will be expected to believe she has been very heroic. Blizz will put her on a shelf to be used 3-4 expansions down the line.
again, you're conflating justice with vengeance, they are not the same thing. I haven't seen any messaging with the quests that justice is wrong, the messaging is more in the lines of "vengeance is wrong/dangerous, and will consume you" which tbh is a pretty common trope in story telling so not really surprising it's used here as well.
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