Wondering Aloud: What do y'all think would turn *the majority* of Trump supporters away from him?

[Psyborg]

I spent most of this presidency very naive and thought basically every egregious act, every excruciatingly stupid gaffe, every bit of chaos like fucking firing the FBI director, every obvious lie, every Russia bombshell, etc etc was going to cause the mountain to crumble (or at least sway my Trump supporting friends and family members). 4 years later and the mountain is only stronger and higher so I don't have any answer for this. I thought him losing the election would deflate the balloon at least a little bit but instead they just throw that fact into the fake news pit.

 

[HaL64]

It's a cult. And they are devoted followers.

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This is the answer.

It's a die hard religious cult. I mean he just got tons of his followers to believe something without evidence. Doesn't get anymore concrete as religious cult than that.

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[Sanka]

Him basically becoming a progressive to the point where they would think he is part of the enemy that Q is fighting. Trump is a useful tool to spread their hate and give it weight. But the moment he stops doing that they will drop him, which means it will never happen.

 

[super-famicom]

Nothing, its a cult

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Absolutely nothing. They're too brainwashed and too far gone.

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I agree with these posts

 

[Deleted member 64609]

Even if he suddenly did a 180 and became a human being, they'd probably think it was some elaborate ruse and play along (to an extent).

 

[Mekanos]

"I'm passing a resolution to register all guns in civilian hands. We've had the biggest shootings in the US, bigger than anywhere else, far bigger than Mexico, and I want to pass a big, beautiful resolution to prevent this from happening ever again".


Watch how quickly they'd turn on him then!

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It would definitely be this or something else that materially impacts them. They can justify and explain away anything until it affects them.

 

[chezzymann]

Abortion and gun control. C'mon guys you know it's true.

 

[Trey]

Nothing.

 

[Tavernade]

I think him breaking down in tears and being dragged away from something while throwing a temper tantrum would do it. Like full on emotional meltdown on TV, possibly including him crying for his mommy, while losing something.

They want a winner, they can't come back from that.

 

[Deleted member 35987]

At this point he'd have to condemn whiteness to turn any supporters off

 

[Claire Delune]

Literally nothing. He could be documented on video performing the most egregious acts imaginable, and his cultists would simply choose not to believe it because they're already primed to think everything negative about him is pure fabrication.

 

[Jimmypython]

eliminating all the crazy right wing media is a start

 

[Xeno]

He could literally come out and say he's actually politically liberal and he just did all this to be president and make money and these idiots would convince themselves it's a coded message.

 

[TelemachusD]

Become pro-gun control and pro-choice because those are literally the only issues that matter to a wide swath of Republicans.

 

[Godzilla's Left Toe]

Nothing these people believe he's chosen by God

 

[Digital Dinosaur]

I think him breaking down in tears and being dragged away from something while throwing a temper tantrum would do it. Like full on emotional meltdown on TV, possibly including him crying for his mommy, while losing something.

They want a winner, they can't come back from that.

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Yes, it'd have to be something that forced his followers to stop seeing him as a "big man". Considering how delusional their view of him already is, it'd require a real whopper. But it could probably be done.

Generally, Trump has to stop representing the promise of dominating and conferring "pride"; white identity politics. Based on my experience with people like Trump supporters, it's not so much that they'd snap out of it, as become embittered and betrayed, and turn inward. Withdraw from supporting anyone, or engaging with politics anymore.

They'd still be out there powering toxic attitudes and culture, but would remove themselves from supporting a fascist future politically.

 

[pikachief]

French kissing a gay black man.

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[Deleted member 4212]

If he raised taxes or went against 2a, he's lose a lot of people. But a lot of his supporters would simply believe that he didn't do those things and he would probably keep the majority in the end.

 

[Quantum Leap]

A lot of them seem to be obsessed with pedophelia so probably a video of Trump being a pedo. Other than that, he could shoot someone in the middle of fifth avenue and they would still vote for him, it's literally a cult.

 

[shinobi602]

Nothing.

When he said he could walk on 5th Avenue and shoot someone and people would still vote for him, it wasn't outlandish.

 

[Nola]

A more extreme figure with an even stronger cult of personality.

 

[McScroggz]

In terms of what he might actually say or do? Probably nothing honestly.

 

[Deleted member 76797]

a more interesting question to me is, what will they do if trump just falls out from the public eye and fades into obscurity occasionally doing speeches or whatever it is ex presidents usually do. i don't really the see the upside for trump to be a high profile public anymore. he can just go do rich guy stuff and retire.

i can't think of any other GOP politicians who are like him and would elicit such a weird devoted following. imagine a boat parade for fuckin jeb or marco rubio. i just don't see it.

 

[Avitus]

They are beyond the control of Fox. Nothing will get to them. He'll still be revered even after dying.

 

[qaopjlll]

There's nothing you can do or say to the majority of Trump supporters to sway them from the cult... they would rather die than support political policies that would improve their quality of life.

 

[Failburger]

Seeing how toxic Trump supporters are, I wager if Trump have a gay relationship his supporters would drop him fast.

 

[Thequietone]

I don't think you can get through to these people. I had to turn my music up so I could drown out my Trump supporting sis in law ranting from the otherside of the house about how we're going to die because her step dad's last name is Trump. They don't live in the same reality as us. I've tried reasoning with her before about this stuff and tried walking her through this with critical thinking but she seems incapable of connecting the dots. I've given up and I am moving out when I can.

 

[danm999]

Him losing will do it, real problem is their attachment to him isn't the real problem since they'll go invest their energy into something else.

 

[Imperfected]

Actual, incontrovertible proof that he was involved in the celebrity pedophilia ring and engaged in sex with preteens. There's enough of the whole QAnon madness that hinges on Democrats being a secret cabal of evil pedophiles that it might cause some actual cognitive dissonance.

That is, in fact, what I suspect the "intelligence" that was alluded to earlier this week probably was.

 

[Deleted member 4212]

Actual, incontrovertible proof that he was involved in the celebrity pedophilia ring and engaged in sex with preteens. There's enough of the whole QAnon madness that hinges on Democrats being a secret cabal of evil pedophiles that it might cause some actual cognitive dissonance.

That is, in fact, what I suspect the "intelligence" that was alluded to earlier this week probably was.

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He only did that so that he could go undercover and expose the real pedophiles.

 

[Danby]

Time is the only thing at this point. Hopefully trump will begin to fade from the spotlight as he becomes increasingly irrelevant. Hopefully they go after his taxes, and his debts become due, and the business is broken into parts, and his brillance in their eyes beguns to slowly fade. And eventually he will die.
The children may strive to maintain relevance, but hopefully they face an uphill battle.

 

[Faenix1]

There's people here in fucking Canada that would LOVE to have Trump instead of Trudeau.
Ain't a damn thing Trump did that his cult of dumbasses would'nt eat up. They'd all have to find someone else to worship.

 

[Keldroc]

Literally nothing he would actually do.

 

[Addie]

Nothing.

Even if Trump were caught on video doing Epstein-related things, a good number of Trump supporters would justify this as Trump going undercover in furtherance of Q's agenda to root out pedophiles.

Granted, I think that demonstrable evidence of something like that would turn away a good portion of his supporters, but let's pause and take a step back. Consider the fact that we're actually discussing what percentage of his supporters would disavow him were crimes against innocent children involved.

 

[GraphicViolets]

I wouldn't be surprised if he did something that they didn't like that they claimed he was doing it because he was forced to. at least with the qanon and all style of supporters. idk how many of those there are. most of the republicans i know are more into the party than they are him and would drop him the second that there was someone they believed would win better than him (so long as the person running wasn't more moderate)

 

[SigmasonicX]

There isn't anything immediate that can be done. Even if Trump says a bunch of stuff that goes against what his followers believe, we've seen in the past that Trump supporters they'll deny he said it even with video proof.

I think the best way forward that's likely is cutting them off from Trump and pro-Trump propaganda, and eventually when deprived for long enough, they'll get better. However, I don't see this happening when they're all flooding to Parlor and such.

 

[Einchy]

Nothing.

They're a full on cult now, he can do and say whatever and his supporters would mentally twist themselves to see it as okay.

 

[SinkFla]

Nothing. Really nothing. He'd have to hold a gun to their heads and tell them he has willed their children into becoming liberal Muslim homosexual abortion doctors and MAYBE then they'd repel his Adonic wiles.

 

[frenchmovietheme]

Legitimately it would take a video of him molesting a minor. And even that I'm not sure about bc some of them would say it's fake and not believe it

 

[AusGeno]

Legalising abortion and banning guns. Outside of that I'd say he's teflon-coated kevlar.

 

[Godfather]

He would need to turn Democrat, praise BLM, and restrict 2nd amendment rights.

 

[Thisisme]

Nothing. Keep in mind Trump supporters are plugged into different media. Anything he did would be spun into something else.

 

[FaceHugger]

It's like the leopards eating faces meme at this point. They're hopeless. We just need to keep voting.

We have larger numbers than these clowns. Use them.

 

[construct]

depltforming would be a good start

 

[Kino]

Nothing. He could rape a little girl on national television and they'd accuse her of seducing him. All while pushing that qanon pedo bullshit. He's literally infallible in their eyes.

 

[It’s Time To Go]

Nothing. Think go everything he's done, the way he's acted, the stuff we've learnt he did in the past 5 years, hasn't made a bit of difference. I doubt most of his supporters would be swayed, or even believe he did a bad thing.

 

[Ayato_Kanzaki]

So I got to thinking... what could Trump do that would turn the majority of his supporters away (because we know it will never be all)?

Outside of God Himself returning to Earth, I'm really not quite sure. But humor me - what do you guys got?

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Gun Control.

Trump made noises about restricting a few models of rifles once, just after a massacre. That is the one and only time I saw the nuts posting in The_Donald questionning their worship of Trump. He walked that one back in less than twelve hours.

 

[Watchtower]

Him working with/agreeing with/praising Democrats.

The cult of Trump is built off radicalized partisanship and the "culture war". Trump the MAGA God-Emperor embodies this vision. For the real Trump to fail them he must fail this vision, and to do so he must consort with the enemy.

We saw this in the 2018 Syria bombings. It was one of the only times r/t_d and the online MAGA army actually went against him, calling him a fool puppeted by corporate interests. They didn't hate him briefly because he was suddenly acting hawkish, they hated him because for a brief moment he was working with hawkish Dems to do it.

 

[@dedmunk]

Nothing, he will get away with whatever he wants. He goes on and on about the fake news media but in reality he is the one spreading fake news, his qanon conspiracy theorist dumbshit supporters go down these fake news rabbit holes on social media and youtube and come out thinking they know something everyone else doesn't and it makes them feel empowered. The misinformation age is scary as hell.

 

[The Dragon Mask]

Something he would never ever do.

Admit he has lied profusely about all matters, that he regrets everything he has done and that the "radical left", Obama, Biden etc. are actually much better politicians who have the wellbeing of the people far more in mind than he. A complete 180 in all aspects that make Trump "great".

Like I said, it's never happening.