You want clearcut evidence of that she called him the n-word while driving? And at the same time complain about him video-recording to instagram while driving? I legit dont understand your logic here.
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Women yells "I HAVE A BLACK HUSBAND"after he confronted her when she cut him off
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He was the one that brought up the racism accusation though. How should she defende herself.
There is no obviousness as there is a lack of hard evidence, merely conjecture on your part.
See that's the thing that gets me. She was called a karen, derogatory word for a white woman who is a bigot of some sort. The word in itself is racially charged. Now if the woman merely flipped the guy off how is she to defend herself from this accusation? All i see is two people who have road rage issues amd one guy decided to socially destroy a strangers life. She may be a racist but i don't know based off his video. There must be a longer video somewhere
I mean, I get it, but the bigger concern for a lot of people is that we live in a society where Black people feel the need to have recording devices ready at all times for their own safety.
If not for him having this on video, who in that area, listening to that woman's wailing and gnashing of teeth, would have believed that he didn't attack her? That he didn't even attempt to attack her?
This is why Karens are dangerous.
Ok, but there is situations and situations, he did this clearly for self-defence. A black man without a video in America is a dead man in those situations, and even with a video he could easily end up shot. He was not making a music video or wtv for god's sake.
I see one person with road rage issues and one person who's outraged because someone used an ethnic slur against him.
Is this the "Won't somebody please think of the children?" for racists? Why do you feel the need to defend the woman when he was not even touching her, he just asked for an apology, that's it.
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Technically, she cannot defend herself: she is past that point once she is being called a "Karen" and she is being filmed. There was no other course of action than to lay down on the ground in a fetal position, try to hide her face as best as she could, and then hope that her employer and friends would not see the viral video, so that she would not get fired, left by all her acquaintances, and forced to move to another city or state.
She gets it right at the end of the video, but that is what she should have done right away.
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Technically, she cannot defend herself: she is past that point once she is being called a "Karen" and she is being filmed. There was no other course of action than to lay down on the ground in a fetal position, try to hide her face as best as she could, and then hope that her employer and friends would not see the viral video, so that she would not get fired, left by all her acquaintances, and forced to move to another city or state.
She gets it right at the end of the video, but that is what she should have done right away.
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Or, apologize and act like an adult. The guy was giving her every chance in the world and she chose to act like an infant.
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Do we have any video of a situation de-escalating after someone apologizes? She knows she is past that point and that is why she panicks.
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Do we have any video of a situation de-escalating after someone apologizes? She knows she is past that point and that is why she panicks.
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Two pages in and we already got:
- "Karen is a racist term to oppress white women!"
- I don't see any racism!
- But why is he recording?
- [thing that isn't racism] is what's really bothering me here!
- "Karen is a racist term to oppress white women!"
- I don't see any racism!
- But why is he recording?
- [thing that isn't racism] is what's really bothering me here!
I am deleting my posts because the OP initially did not have the full video. I only ever said the story sounded weird.
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Is this sarcasm because god damnTechnically, she cannot defend herself: she is past that point once she is being called a "Karen" and she is being filmed. There was no other course of action than to lay down on the ground in a fetal position, try to hide her face as best as she could, and then hope that her employer and friends would not see the viral video, so that she would not get fired, left by all her acquaintances, and forced to move to another city or state.
She gets it right at the end of the video, but that is what she should have done right away.
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She starts off the video screaming she's being attacked.
Maybe if she thought about her job before being a racist shitheel, she wouldn't be screaming bloody murder from a black man patiently asking her questions on camera. Really makes her look even more guilty.
Just maybe, institutional racism against black people that's getting them killed is a bit more important right now, don't ya think?
"DEROGATORY", "RACIALLY CHARGED", LMAO. Just blatantly ignoring white privilege and trying to make this about "white racism", I really can't believe it.
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No. Or if she did, I missed that part.
Hmm, I think the video would have been posted online even if she had tried to apologize. That being said, it is true that the video might not have become viral if she had apologized straight away. So that would have alleviated the consequences of her racism and could have worked in her favor. Like, she knows her face will be on the Internet, but less seen.
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No. Or if she did, I missed that part.
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Hmm, I think the video would have been posted online even if she had tried to apologize. That being said, it is true that the video might not have become viral if she had apologized straight away. So that would have alleviated the consequences of her racism and could have worked in her favor. Like, she knows her face will be on the Internet, but less seen.
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She started out by screaming she was being attacked. Why do you think she would do that?
Are you serious?
She literally came out of the car screeching that she has a black husband before anything else. You don't do that unless you're trying to deflect charges of racism. She knows she did something undeniably racist.
Good point.
Opens with an on camera lie and people think she's telling the truth about the stuff off camera? Nah
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Is there another video? I don't hear that. I hear "I don't understand, I don't understand what is happening. You are attacking me"
Her saying she is being attacked is gross, clearly white privilege behavior. But I don't hear her saying anything about a black husband. What is the time mark for that?
You think because he doesn't go in hot with the fact she called him the N word he's making it up?
Technically, she cannot defend herself: she is past that point once she is being called a "Karen" and she is being filmed. There was no other course of action than to lay down on the ground in a fetal position, try to hide her face as best as she could, and then hope that her employer and friends would not see the viral video, so that she would not get fired, left by all her acquaintances, and forced to move to another city or state.
She gets it right at the end of the video, but that is what she should have done right away.
I'm really curious as to what you're trying to get at here is, and why you won't just stop beating around the bush and say it directly.
Man: "She called me the N-word and flipped me off."
Woman: *shrieks so loud she frightens dogs in the area*
This thread: "I don't see the racism here."
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We're fucking doomed.
Woman: *shrieks so loud she frightens dogs in the area*
This thread: "I don't see the racism here."
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We're fucking doomed.
He never mentions it when interacting with her. He only mentions it to defend his behavior when yelled at by someone else. As someone who has been at the receiving end of many racists moments, I find his behavior a little odd.
The IG story one shows a longer video.
I think people were expecting a caught in the act video. Though she was already caught when she went for the "I have a black husband" card.
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I dont get that either since he indeed brought it up while confronting her.
You don't think it's possible he is embarrassed and doesn't want to announce it unless he absolutely has to?
You don't see it in the clip in the OP. There's another clip floating around Twitter that starts as she's getting out of the car. She initially tries getting in his face and he tells her to back away. That's when she screams "I HAVE A BLACK HUSBAND" and goes into hysterics. And that's right where the clip in the OP picks up.
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Yeah, the longer clip is on his Insta:
I'll watch the longer video. I didn't realize there was another one.
regardless of what ethnicity her husband is, u gotta feel for him... if nothing else, any time you had an argument with this woman all the neighbors would instantly know v_v ouuuch
ps. karen is disgusting, karen is entitled, karen is frustrating as hell, karen should go to hell. I don't wanna be seen as being unequivocal about that. fffuuuck her.
ps. karen is disgusting, karen is entitled, karen is frustrating as hell, karen should go to hell. I don't wanna be seen as being unequivocal about that. fffuuuck her.
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And Karen's can also be of other skintones, there are black Karen's out there. Right now they are not the biggest problem to focus on, but you'll meet them if you work in the service industry. The 'I'd like to talk to your manager' archetype sadly exists universally. Just white Karen's have added racism on top of it.
Wait are you serious? Unless it was caught on tape for YOU to judge, then it didn't happen? Fuck the black mans word, let's auto-believe the crying white woman huh? That's some primo shit you're on, bucko. You're part of the problem.
a lotta people in this thread ignoring her screaming shes being attacked at the start when hes being non violent
and then, when she realises he's recording and not going to approach closer than 1.5m, she switches gear to how her life will be ruined and hes calling her a karen
what happened to that "fear of being attacked"
not like it was just engineered theatrics in the first place so a black man would get persecuted for being perceived to attack a defenseless white women ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
so you don't have her on video road raging which you probably shouldn't (shoutout for the people whataboutism him using a phone while driving) unless he has an expensive dashcam
she still shows in her behaviour
1) shes intentionally trying to get him attacked by crying wolf
2) when that doesn't work, she knows her racist actions are going to be shown and accuses him of ruining her life
and then, when she realises he's recording and not going to approach closer than 1.5m, she switches gear to how her life will be ruined and hes calling her a karen
what happened to that "fear of being attacked"
not like it was just engineered theatrics in the first place so a black man would get persecuted for being perceived to attack a defenseless white women ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
so you don't have her on video road raging which you probably shouldn't (shoutout for the people whataboutism him using a phone while driving) unless he has an expensive dashcam
she still shows in her behaviour
1) shes intentionally trying to get him attacked by crying wolf
2) when that doesn't work, she knows her racist actions are going to be shown and accuses him of ruining her life
Yep.
Best part is when Mr. Huight Knight who comes out to defend her even when other witnesses come out and confirm seeing her brake check him.
Abe explained, she assumes her life is about to ruined without her having an opportunity to have her side of the story heard.
Is there footage of her using racist language? It's a little odd at one point he claims she used a slur, but for the most part he seems more concerned with her flipping him off.
If she used racist language, whatever. Personally I don't feel anyone needs to be humiliated for flipping someone off, and I can understand her reaction if that's the case.
Maybe she's read recent stories of other people losing their job after videos of them have been posted online and isn't thinking rationally because she thinks there's a decent chance her life is about to be ruined.
I don't really see the point of trying to draw conclusions based on anyone's intentions. If she thought she was about to unfairly lose her livelihood it makes sense that she's in hysterics and not acting rationally. Her knowing she fucked up and desperately trying to turn things around on her victim is absolutely another possibility, but unless there's more footage of what actually happened there's no way of knowing.
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Even after countless examples of "Karening" just this past month alone, the one time where there is no initial evidence of racism in a video (which she didn't even deny btw) the default for some people when white women tears are involved is still denying racism was involved. For me tho, the best thing about her freaking out is her realization that real consequences can happen if you are a racist asshole which means exposing them is working.