I was just answering generally. That film being Spiderman probably did have a lot riding on it but I doubt anyone is unhappy with how it did.
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Wkd Box Office - 12•28-30•18 - Jan 4th update: Aquaman now the highest grossing DCEU film ever with $888M worldwide.
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This goes for basically any movie of the 2000s. It'd comfortably add a few hundred million to its tally. The Raimi Spider-Mans, which didn't hit a billion at the time, were actually huge back then. They'd all be cleared of the billion mark comfortably with ticket prices of today. Gross has always been a flawed metric to try and judge the popularity of movies against each other, especially older movies. Even ignoring ticket prices, you have movies that are affected by exchange rates where they may be making more money in local territories, but the gross may not reflect that in US dollars.
Like, if we use Homecoming as an example, its gross looks good when you compare it to the Raimi movies. Reality is, it's nowhere close to as popular as any of the three movies were back then.
This! Aquaman has more visual imagination then the new Star Wars'. That's crazy to think about.
TDK is a masterpiece and one, if not, the best superhero movie ever made, of course it would have made much more money now than it did at the time.
I always forget that Dark Knight never released in China.
Was the Chinese market big back then? I never really payed attention to it until a few years ago.
Was the Chinese market big back then? I never really payed attention to it until a few years ago.
I didn't even realize there was a narrative of Homecoming being a bomb until I started looking at these threads :lol
Civil War cleared a billion too. But outside of Civil War and Infinity War, what other phase 3 movies were seriously predicted to hit a billion? Panther definitely wasn't. Maybe Guardians 2?
If WB puts Aquaman 2 in December again, it'd be going up against either a Star Wars or an Avatar.
Civil War cleared a billion too. But outside of Civil War and Infinity War, what other phase 3 movies were seriously predicted to hit a billion? Panther definitely wasn't. Maybe Guardians 2?
If WB puts Aquaman 2 in December again, it'd be going up against either a Star Wars or an Avatar.
Aquaman benefited by audiences thirsty for a Star Wars fix at Christmas after being trained to expect it. Solo would have done much better if it released then, Bumblebee was more of an E.T. tied to a dead franchise, Spider-Man was too animated, Mortal Engines had no support whatsoever, and Mary Poppins wasn't exactly an action spectactle. H20man wouldn't do quite as well going up against Wars/Avatar, I'd think November or Summer alternating with Wonder Woman/Insert DC character here would be fine.
Was BvS' total gross really *that* bad considering it was a sequel to MoS which debuted at like 650 million only and was the introduction of a brand new Batman that no one had even seen before. The movie still did close to a billion WW.
Is there anyone that could have predicted Aquaman will make a billion?? I was expecting at least $600 mill or something.
When you consider the hype and opening numbers the only answer is yes. Honestly, a Batman vs Superman movie by name alone should comfortably hit $1B. The fact it didn't even hit $900M says it all. The awful reviews and bad word of mouth pushed so many potential viewers away.
Not until I saw it. It hit just about every quad and it's a must see theater visual spectacle. Wan took a page out of Cameron's handbook.
The idea that you can make modestly priced Batman crime thriller/action films that cross 1 billion, then add $150 million in CGI and Superman/WW, and make less money, is probably a more realistic way WB would look at it.
Wow you only saw Unbreakable last year?
Is there anyone else in this thread who hasn't seen it yet? You would really be doing yourself a disservice. Don't even watch a trailer a review. Watch it raw and fresh. It's totally worth it.
Well, it was bad enough that WB shitcanned Snyder and brought on Whedon to reshoot major elements of the movie .
If IX comes in under TLJ this forum is going to get...hectic for several weeks.
Everybody be taking credit for Joseph Campbell who was all about Junge and Freud
It had some of the worst legs of any modern blockbuster
Great opening and then a complete collapse after opening weekend when people saw what a miserable experience it was
IX should do better than TLJ I would think. JJ knows how to make a crowd pleaser and I doubt it will be as controversial as TLJ was
I still dont think it will be even close to 2B though
I don't see much of an issue with Aquaman 2 launching against Star Wars, especially with mainline Star Wars finishing this year. I think the Star Wars spin-offs would be hurt more by Aquaman if anything. But they need to keep it away from Avatar. Considering how well Aquaman did in China, you don't want it releasing close to Avatar 2. The original Avatar did stupid numbers in its time. That sequel is going to be a monster in China, and probably the international markets in general, and that will undoubtedly affect Aquaman's performance overseas.
I think somewhere around 1.5B is reasonable. Without China's support I just don't see it going much higher.
I didn't even think that TLJ would hit to 2B before it came out. Force Awakens was seriously a perfect storm of no new Star Wars movie for a decade and choc full of nostalgia bomb that critics and the public loved. I thought it was an ok movie and TLJ was much more interesting.
Yep, and I think going through the MCU era only made Unbreakable that much better. That isn't to imply the MCU movies are bad or that I don't enjoy them (I definitely enjoy them for the most part despite some issues ranging from minor to moderate), but it was just such a refreshing take on it all. Everything from the characters and their motivations, the powers, the scale, the setting, etc... You then take into consideration the fact the movie came out almost 19 years ago and was way ahead of its time.
It gets a very high recommendation from me as well. A must watch superhero film.
I'm more interested in seeing if there's any impact on the MCU after Endgame. Probably not, but it's the conclusion to a decade long story and the presumed end to an endless multi-year hype machine so I wonder if the motivation to go see everything will still be there. I remember people criticizing the scale of AM&W after IW and I wonder if the same will apply to the next few films assuming the Avengers are out to rest for a few years. We might see the same thing with the next Spidey film, where people have a hard time winding down and it hurts their reaction to the movie. Assuming the movie is still good, of course.
Uh, No. Snyder didn't get canned, Snyder's daughter died. Maybe WB was glad he stepped away because of the reception, but it's complete bull to categorize him being 'shitcanned', especially when he's still largely responsible for a mostly successful run of films. Outside of Justice League, hasn't every DC movie done well?
The only one you can categorize as an objective failure is JL yeah
BvS underperformed but it still made money
Take Suidice Squad. Made almost $750 million.
Now imagine if that movie was critically and commercially accepted as good. even THAT makes over a billion imo.
His movie was basically taken away from him, his original vision altered in significant ways. If WB didn't think he was a problem they wouldn't have brought in Joss Whedon to rewrite/reshoot his movie. He was almost 6 months into post-production when he was off the project.
Props to Millar, he was way ahead of the curve on this one. I don't like his writing but Mark clearly understands what resonates with consumers.
ERA's movie of the year but bombs pretty much everywhere
There ya go
What having an opinion on JL?
I just didn't like the Whedon stuff at all. It felt really jarring and poorly done. I'm sure part of that was because it was all done last minute but I didnt like his additions
Since when are we not allowed to talk about our opinions in the Box Office thread?
Cause I've been a part of them for almost 10 years and we've always done that
That was sarcasm.
I wasn't even talking about you in my first post. Have a good day.
Hah.
The best outcome I think would be a Fury Road type scenario. Stellar reviews and respectable -if unspectacular- box-office numbers for a movie of this type.
But I don't see Villeneuve as a crowd-pleasing type of filmmaker. There's kind of a ceiling that I don't think his movies can cross, unlike someone like Nolan for example.
What sucks is that the most exciting thing about any Dune project for me is always what's past the first book.
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