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Bumblebee will pass 100M, and have a shot at grossing its production budget domestically. Still low by Franchise standards, but it has to pay for Bay.
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Wkd Box Office - 12•21-23•18 - X-mas 5-day updates: Aquaman $105M, Mary Poppins $41M, Bumblebee $34M, Spider-verse $25M
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Bumblebee will pass 100M, and have a shot at grossing its production budget domestically. Still low by Franchise standards, but it has to pay for Bay.
Seems Hollywood Reporter is going with 11.6 million for Poppins on Christmas.
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...1171632?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...1171632?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
I mean, it doesn't even have "Transformers" in the title, it has a muted budget by series standards, and the studio has repeatedly referred to it as a "spinoff." I'm sure they had lower expectations. I'm sure they were still hoping for more, but they weren't expecting traditional TF numbers.
Cool, thanks for the info. Christmas seems like a healthy increase over Monday, so that should maybe be a good sign.
Ferrell hasn't done anything good in over a decade. I'd be surprised if it was half decent
I think we are in agreement, it was never gonna hit traditional TF numbers. Even with that said, these numbers are well below those so I wonder if the studio will view this film as a success at the end of the day.
I have no idea what their internal expectations are.
Yeah, we'll have to wait to see how the final gross plays out, especially as there are still key markets the movie needs to open in that could vary greatly in gross (China is sort of a question mark. Maybe Japan, too).
That's really it. TLK crater the franchise. Flick did 130mil and this is coming fairly close after it. If it skirts to 110-120mil Dom, that could be considered good given what it is following. Reboot the franchise as a lower budget set vs the 217mil budget TLK had.[/QUOTE]
I am just happy we got it. First good Tranformers movie. Was really surprised by how much fun it was.
As a movie it probably will be seen as a bit of a disappointment, but of course for Hasbro a big thing is the toy/merch sales. GI Joe barely made much the first time around but the toy sales were solid so they pushed ahead for a sequel.
Hasbro also is pushing harder it's licensing and making money off their IPs. While all their departments have been seeing declines and losses, they have been making bank more than ever on licensing deals, and because of that they have been saying they are trying to become an IP company, since the toy market has been shriveling.
I really hope they have the right takeaways because I have no interest in the Bay brand of TFs and if they return to that, count me out.
It's amazing we are even talking $1B scenarios for a movie about Aquaman.
Given how popular and personally funny he is, it's remarkable how many utterly shitty movies Will Ferrell stars in.
Thought the most cold-blooded part of Deadline's article, not even Netflix wanted to touch Holmes and Watson
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Lower budget for sure but I don't think they'll go cheap on it.
Cloudy with a Chance of meatballs made $243MM on a budget of $100MM. Cloudy 2 made $273MM on a $78MM budget. Spider-Verse will probably crawl to Cloudy's gross take on a similar budget.
I don't think Sony would hurt Spider-Verse 2, given Spider-Man is a tentpole franchise for them. At least, I hope.
That all female spin-off is probably dead though. If animated Spider-Man can't pull in a decent gross, no chance the all female spin goes ahead.
Paramount isn't creatively bankrupt. Just poor mismanagement. Once they eventually merge back with CBS, the combined entity has plenty of tentpole franchises to tap into. Also the fact they aren't tapping into Nickelodeon more is just asinine.
I thought it was excellent and I came in expecting to be bored to shit as I'm not a huge fan of the original.
You're aware how word of mouth works, right? Most people get to know that movies exists through marketing and people they know or follow, either through WeChat, Weibo, Youku or what have you. People use Maoyan to order tickets online. The fact that you put a great emphasis on aggegrated anonymous reviews is laughable.
Thought the most cold-blooded part of Deadline's article, not even Netflix wanted to touch Holmes and Watson
Too shitty even for Netflix...
I can't believe Aquaman might actually be the biggest hit DC movie since The Dark Knight Rises.
man, that is such a huge bummer
bummers all around!
Insane that 900m - 1 Billion is in play for a Aquaman movie of all things.
Between how well Wonder Woman and Aquaman have done it just shows how seriously DC fucked up with their portrayals of Batman and Superman. Imagine how successful films about those 2 should be in the modern era
I won't defend their decision, but also Batman and Superman just came with a lot of baggage where there are some fairly iconic versions of the characters drilled into the mainstream. So I'll give them some props for at least trying something new/different with the characters.
And I am a bit bias as someone who enjoys MoS/BvS, but clearly it isn't what the mainstream audience wanted out of those properties, and I hope they know that now.
Leave the experimenting to the DC Universe movies... if that ever becomes a thing.
someone add another one to the sad affleck image
Well deserved
Reeves Batman, if its as good as it should be, is an easy Billion. Even with the villains being Penguin and Riddler.
I'm hoping he uses subsequent movies to shine the light on the Batfamily.
I hope Wan returns for the Aquaman sequel. Tighten up the jokes and have less going on, but maintain the insane visuals, scale and action. Happy for Mamoa, hope his breakout film hits that billion.
I'm hoping he uses subsequent movies to shine the light on the Batfamily.
I hope Wan returns for the Aquaman sequel. Tighten up the jokes and have less going on, but maintain the insane visuals, scale and action. Happy for Mamoa, hope his breakout film hits that billion.
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Imagine Zach Snyder's The Killing Joke
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Because Zach Snyder is an edgelord who was drawn to the edgiest stories.
Imagine Zach Snyder's The Killing Joke
:shudder:
A movie about a dude that talks to fish is about outgross BvS and Justice League.
Goddamn, Snyder, you fucked up.
The new Batman needs to lean hard into the detective/noir side of the character. Not necessarily go full "DARKNESS! NO PARENTS!" but I agree it doesn't need to be Aquaman level crazy.
Superman? I don't even know. They have to go in a direction that somehow doesn't trend similar ground to both Donner and Synder's takes while also not being too much like Aquaman.
Dude some people forget Wonder Woman came out last year. Six years ago was a lifetime away.
I don't think people want "smart" Batman, it would be "boring" to see him working a case for 2 hours.
Though an adaption of Arkham Asylum... where it's essentially Batman: The Raid could do gangbusters
All DC need to do to make Superman work on screen is adapt the current version of the character from Rebirth including his son.
I dont even like Supes really and I love his Rebirth comics
And yeah Batman needs to lean hard into the detective / noire side of things
I dont even like Supes really and I love his Rebirth comics
And yeah Batman needs to lean hard into the detective / noire side of things
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