The original achieved that already just by having him walk through a door
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Wkd Box Office - 12•13-15•19 - Jumanji Exceeds Expectations, Frozen 2 Passes 1B, No Jewels or Happy Holidays For Other New Releases
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ANH was so great because Lucas got the help and advice of a bunch of other film makers. When Lucas started listening only to Lucas, we got the PT.
I blame Disney for hiding an important part of the movie in fortnite lol. Honestly, audiences aren't dumb. They can smell a panicked course correction a mile away.A large portion of the audience didn't return after TFA because it was just more of the same and a decent chunk didn't return after TLJ because the marketing has been bad/rehash focused. "Palpys back!" is a fun meme but I'm not rushing to the theater for memes (Cats Boxoffice)
There's a difference between having other people restrain your worst intentions, and then just not even having any control over your creative vision. When you get the latter, you get the fucking Amazing Spiderman series. And when you get the former, you get Damen Lindelof's amazing redemption arc. (No joke: Damen himself has said he owes the credit for his recent successes to hiring people to screen his ideas that WOULDN"T be sycophants. Look it up.)
I think the market for a movie like this might be conflicted sense they still hate Meghan Kelly.
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Centering on Fox News personalities resulted in it going exactly how I expected it to go.
I think I have two reasons
1. The marketing for it was kind of trashy in how it plays up Aisles' actions as some juicy scandal.
2. At the end of the day, Megyn Kelly and Gretchen Carlson are still villains in the grand scheme of things.They spewed hateful bile and republican propaganda that poisoned a nation.
I don't know who the movie is meant to appeal to. Conservatives will immediately refuse to see it, and liberals are uninterested in a sympathetic portrayal of Fox News personalities. They did not deserve to be victims of sexual harassment, but they are still incredibly vile people. The movie is attempting to appeal to that White Feminist sisterhood/girl power/#girlboss solidarity concept and that just doesn't play anymore in a polarized society. These women aren't my "sisters."
It is playing on less than half the screens Cats has and about a third of what Star Wars has. The PTA for Friday wasn't that bad either. $1236 compared to the $1680 for Jumanji.
It isn't breaking out like some expected, but it isn't bombing either. But there is also a good amount of adult focused movies out now and more about to hit on Christmas that it will probably get lost in the shuffle. Especially because Uncut Gems has some hype behind it.
You think creating a CG model of a drum-playing octopus is a quick process
Really though, yeah the script in Aquaman is fucking rancid, but it's the one comic flick in recent times where the budget really matches what's on screen. Even the typical horde mode finale that MCU has relied on way too much is spectacular in Aquaman. They should take all the time they need.
Not really. TFA crushed the ball in 2015 and Avengers has been on a steady uptick since culminating with an earth shattering performance in 2019.
I have bad feeling they are going to drop Rian Johnson in January and go with Ron Howard for the 2022 movie.
Nightmare fuel.
Nightmare fuel.
I think they pick Rian or someone who's never worked with Lucasfilm before.
Nope. It's going to Favreau with Feige producing.
Favreau said in a Variety interview he isn't interested in doing a large scale SW movie 🤔
Favreau is the ultimate company guy, if Disney calls he'll pick up.
I hadn't seen that but JJ also said he wasn't interested in directing a SW film after TFA so...minds change?
Yeah. If they want to give him a SW film, he'll take it.
We will see I guess. I still think that the 2022 movie needs to be a reset button for SW... they need a director with a strong vision for that to work.
Even if you think TLJ was a good movie on it's own I think we can agree after this opening that it didn't set up a good hook for audiences to be excited for episode 9 which is definitely a factor for ROS underperforming, along with the reviews
That would make me so happy. I liked solo more then any of the ST movies.
I've stanned it a long time but they need to give Justin Lin a damn call. They need someone who can come in with a different perspective and nail it, He can do it.
He'll probably be too busy directing Fast and Furious 9, 10, and... Hot Wheels? Alright then.
I know bringing him up was probably a joke, but I don't think I would blamed Ron Howard on Solo's misfortunes
Reading that Deadline article is pretty funny. Lots of downplaying the initial bad press for the movie, saying everything is fine, and each new update bringing the OW estimate lower and lower. Even now they say it's all good because it's going to be really stong after Christmas. And all these excuses about Christmas shopping to explain why the movie is doing less than expected, somehow never came up before.
Yea the Deadline article is really bizzare. It sounds both defensive and like they're trying to cover for Disney.
Also that 179 is pretty optimistic as it's assuming only a -15% drop this Sunday. Might be closer to 175.
Ahh, didn't know that. It's playing in two of my three closest theaters (my third only screens one new film a week, it obviously wasn't getting this as its one this week)
Yup, it's why I predicted under 200OW and under a bill WW.
I thought the marketing for 9 was strong, at points very strong but it just never had that Infinity War type of hook.
Disney lowballs their forecasts on purpose so it ends up looking good.
Nolan is absolutely not going to spend the next decade on a licensed trilogy. WB barely got him to make TDKR and it showed.
Nah, the bad trailers/premise for TRoS didn't hook me.
Me after TLJ " Wow, all the legacy characters are gone and a great actor like Adam Driver can be the unhinged heavy for the next movie. Where will they go next?"
Me after TRoS name reveal/premise/trailer " Oh, so killing Snoke was just a lateral move and this series has to have an old wrinkly dude as the big bad for some reason."
Imo, while the people who didn't like the way TLJ ended contributed to the lower boxoffice this is similar to Solo where general audiences didn't care about JJ's trump card of bringing back Palpy.
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