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Wkd Box Office - 12•12-16•18 - Spider-verse buries Mortal Engines domestically. Clint does fine. Aquaman rules the world with $262M overseas.
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The last two trailers have been great. Really solid stuff imo.
And dropped almost 70% in its second weekend. The holidays really stabilized it and prevented a more severely kneecapped OWx. StarWars has benefited tremendously from being a Christmas season release property (for the most part) since the Disney era started. It's just a point about how the holidays make things happen.
That said people seriously underestimate the amount of competition that TFA had in comparison to TLJ.
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As a TV commercial of Pepsi v Mountain Dew, it works quite well as a bit.
Mortal Engines is one of the most fascinating miscalculations since John Carter. Since the very first teaser it was exceedingly clear that no one was going to give even a remote shit about it. Did they think "From the makers of the Lord of the Rings" still carried any weight?
Agreed, when they first announced this I had no idea who this film was being aimed at. They were obviously betting that Peter Jackson's name could kick start this property and that hasn't worked out at all. If I were a betting man I'd say that Mr Jackson's next film (one he directs) will be a more established property.
In saying that I ended up really enjoying the film. As a one off it worked for me.
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Mortal Engines is currently doing worse than the latest Dragon Tattoo film domestically. Holidays will help it pull ahead, but even with holiday legs, 20M domestic total will be iffy. This weekend will be around 2M. Down ~75%
You will not talk about my home boy Joseph Khan like that
I'm joking he's an asshole and deserves to be in whatever director's jail he is in right now
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Saturday projections are floating around. Mary Poppins will take second place this weekend with maybe $1M or so over Bumblebee.
My best guess would be around 23M for Poppins and 22M for bumblebee over 3 days.
Spider-verse is looking like 17-18M right now. So expected range from Friday.
Aquaman is trending towards 68m not counting the 4.9M in Amazon sneaks.
My best guess would be around 23M for Poppins and 22M for bumblebee over 3 days.
Spider-verse is looking like 17-18M right now. So expected range from Friday.
Aquaman is trending towards 68m not counting the 4.9M in Amazon sneaks.
And that's a shame, I thought as probably most everyone did that this was another YA romance with sci-fi elements that doesn't resolve anything in the first movie.
What I got instead was a kick-ass sci-fi thrillride with gorgeous effects, interesting future world, and Hugo Weaving at his most bastardly.
I actually loved the first teaser. I'm like woah that car got ate by the bigger car that was London. I also didn't know anything about the source material. Everything else after that was horrible though.
I couldn't tell what it was about from the trailer. It showed various characters and then a toy figure version of them, right? No context on anything really. It might be one of the least descriptive trailers ever.
Spiderverse was great. I just came back from a packed house and everybody seemed to love it. The kid behind me said "this has to be the best Spider-Man movie ever!"
Let's face it, Incredibles and Big Hero 6 are the only animated superhero movie that audiences will get invested in. Marvel and DC can't catch a break.
They were attached to write and possibly direct Flash until they dropped out to work on Solo
They had the opportunity to get back on Flash after that whole trainwreck but they passed on it in favor of adapting the sci fi novel Artemis
I think the high end of actual tracking from pre release
Wasn't that around 65
Where the hell is my Big Hero 6-2?
No, a tv show doesnt count...
Movie is a hard sell. After watching it, I think it appeals more towards older geeks(here) than anything else. It's not really a kids movie, it takes a lot from the comics, and its animated. Its in that weird spot of DC animated flicks are. Its doing good all things considered
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Deadline had 65-70M a few days ago. So in the middle I guess. Add in another nearly 5M for the sneaks last week.
It definitely can if it is frontloaded for December. I think that China will pass 260M, which would require a 3.8x multiplier to match domestically. However, non-superhero films would typically do 5-6x this weekend launching in this time slot. So will will have to wait and see.
Alita at least looks like it has...something to it unlike Ghost in the Shell (2017) which was just a shoddy remake/reimagining of the original film.
Alita might be bad but it at least seems interesting.
Alita might be bad but it at least seems interesting.
Literally everyone I spoke to who saw the trailer said those anime eyes creeped them the fuck out. Expect every critical review to mention it at some point.
I disagree so much. It's an excellent kids movie (arguably more suited for kids than the live-action fare), you don't need any knowledge of the comics, and the animation is completely unique and incredible, unlike the generic animation of DC's flicks.
If anything, the hard sell is that it's a Spiderman movie. He was in another movie this year, last year, and the year before that, and in a video game this year. On its face, another Spiderman movie is the least exciting thing in the world.
I'm looking forward to it. That last trailer was weirdly similar to the last Captain Marvel trailer (or I guess the other way around).
The clip from the Spike TV VGA's didn't look too great, but I'll stay optimistic.
It's not hard to look better than a straight-to-DVD DC animated movie. The Spider-Verse trailers from the first teaser looked like a high quality animated movie made for theaters.
It's doing well enough to get a sequel. Holding this well over the weekend is a good sign for the full holiday fun. It's also over performing in China versus your typical animated feature.
Spiderverse is definitely gonna live in that Mask of the Phantasm space where it's arugably the best Spider-Man movie but being animated, it doesn't have the same stature, I guess.
Already saw it twice and it's right up there with Spider-Man 2.
Already saw it twice and it's right up there with Spider-Man 2.
According to Box Office Mojo the production budget was $90m. Worldwide pull is only $73m. Unless it holds really steady for a long time, I don't know if it's even going to earn back its production + advertising. A shame too.
Difference is they were making Spider-Verse for the theaters first and not doing a quick port like with Mask of the Phantasm.
See, kswiston, this is why comparing it against more than just Ferdinand is important!
My dude, have faith!
Spider-verse has a bit of a staggered release window and have barely been out a week stateside. That BOM number only includes the OS opening from a few markets.
Domestically the Christmas season equals legs and generally smaller openings as presales get more spread out.
Just going to copy/paste an old post keeping in mind that Spider-verse is going to open well above the 15m it was originally projected at in China. It's in the comparison but not a part of the BOM figure
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Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse' Delivers Largest December Animated Opening at $35.4 Million
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4467&p=.htm
People expecting LEGO Batman numbers OS were crazy. Previews and presales did not match that, and it's opening more like LEGO 1 with a better spread per market so far than LEGO Batman
Opening weekend
South Korea
Spider-verse: 3.3m
LEGO Movie 0.7m / 1.4m
LEGO Batman 0.5m / 1m
United Kingdom
LEGO Movie 13.5m / 56.9m
LEGO Batman 9.9m / 34.6m
Spider-verse 2.9m /
China
Spider-verse (projected) 26m /
LEGO Batman 3.5m / 6.1m
LEGO Movie <did not release>
Russia
LEGO Movie 2.7m / 6.1m
Spider-verse 2.3m /
LEGO Batman 2.1m / 4.8m
Australia
LEGO Movie 5.3m / 27.8m
Spider-verse 2.3m /
LEGO Batman no data / 8.8m
Keeping in mind that UK, Australia etc were the markets that carried LEGO HARD (56m of 211m, 27% of the OS gross) and China will have a stronger opening than than LEGO 1 did in the UK the king market of carrying LEGO.
So far it looks like Spider-verse will soak the deficits it accrues from the European markets that disproportionately carried LEGO with far better per country returns in Asia, + the added edge that LEGO 1 didn't release in China.
So roughly LEGO Movie returns OS (+200m OS absolute floor) is likely unless it legs or soaks hard here or there. If it pulls a CoCo in China it could somehow manage to hit 600m or take out Antman 2 :p
The only concern is if it doesn't broaden its demos and is stuck in direct competition to Aquaman and Mary Poppins from the other end making it Stillborn with the family crowd
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My dude, have faith!
Spider-verse has a bit of a staggered release window and have barely been out a week stateside. That BOM number only includes the OS opening from a few markets.
Domestically the Christmas season equals legs and generally smaller openings as presales get more spread out.
Just going to copy/paste an old post keeping in mind that Spider-verse is going to open well above the 15m it was originally projected at in China. It's in the comparison but not a part of the BOM figure
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Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse' Delivers Largest December Animated Opening at $35.4 Million
https://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4467&p=.htm
People expecting LEGO Batman numbers OS were crazy. Previews and presales did not match that, and it's opening more like LEGO 1 with a better spread per market so far than LEGO Batman
Opening weekend
South Korea
Spider-verse: 3.3m
LEGO Movie 0.7m / 1.4m
LEGO Batman 0.5m / 1m
United Kingdom
LEGO Movie 13.5m / 56.9m
LEGO Batman 9.9m / 34.6m
Spider-verse 2.9m /
China
Spider-verse (projected) 26m /
LEGO Batman 3.5m / 6.1m
LEGO Movie <did not release>
Russia
LEGO Movie 2.7m / 6.1m
Spider-verse 2.3m /
LEGO Batman 2.1m / 4.8m
Australia
LEGO Movie 5.3m / 27.8m
Spider-verse 2.3m /
LEGO Batman no data / 8.8m
Keeping in mind that UK, Australia etc were the markets that carried LEGO HARD (56m of 211m, 27% of the OS gross) and China will have a stronger opening than than LEGO 1 did in the UK the king market of carrying LEGO.
So far it looks like Spider-verse will soak the deficits it accrues from the European markets that disproportionately carried LEGO with far better per country returns in Asia, + the added edge that LEGO 1 didn't release in China.
So roughly LEGO Movie returns OS (+200m OS absolute floor) is likely unless it legs or soaks hard here or there. If it pulls a CoCo in China it could somehow manage to hit 600m or take out Antman 2 :p
The only concern is if it doesn't broaden its demos and is stuck in direct competition to Aquaman and Mary Poppins from the other end making it Stillborn with the family crowd
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I'm pretty sure Big Hero 6 was in the opening credits Marvel animation for Spider-Verse? Or am I thinking of some recent Marvel promo video?
I mean people come to the box office are like "yeah I want a ticket to that Peter Jackson film" and I'm like "They Shall Not Grow Old"? And they're all "No, Mortal Engines"
Ghost in the shell biggest sin to me wasn't that it was bad. It's that is was boring.
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