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Starphanluke

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I think it's a little early to write Poppins off. I could see it finding a lot of success starting tomorrow with matinees, and then certainly over Christmas.
 

ZattMurdock

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Poppins ain't bombing, but it isn't going to be the breakout success people been talking about. The movie's audience is parents wanting to bring their kids and Disney fanatics. Aquaman on the other hand has the more universal appeal. It was always going to eat its lunch. But it's still going to do solid throughout Christmas since it is Disney and the only pure kids flick. But honestly, no one was asking for Poppins.

BumbleBee is paying for the sins of the last 2 Transformer films. if it came after Dark Side, it would have been fine. But AoE and LK both completely killed interest in the states for it.


I've been saying for a while that Poppins could get under Aquaman and even Spider-Verse both here and on BOT since the beginning of December. I just don't see the appeal for that film.
 

Anth0ny

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People were telling me it made sense that Solo wasn't releasing in that December slot (the slot where 3 straight Star Wars films made over a billion dollars each) because POPPINS WAS GOING TO RULE THE WORLD

So much for that. I never saw the appeal, never felt ANY hype, and here we are.

I never want anything that isn't star wars in that december slot ever again, disney. You fucks.
 

ZattMurdock

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People were telling me it made sense that Solo wasn't releasing in that December slot (the slot where 3 straight Star Wars films made over a billion dollars each) because POPPINS WAS GOING TO RULE THE WORLD

So much for that. I never saw the appeal, never felt ANY hype, and here we are.

I never want anything that isn't star wars in that december slot ever again, disney. You fucks.

Exact same here. Solo would BANK in December. Disney fucked up.
 

J_Viper

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Exact same here. Solo would BANK in December. Disney fucked up.
Don't think release date was the issue. No one was really amped for a Solo film, especially now that the Star Wars brand power has taken a bit of a dive with Disney. People care more about Captain America than any one in the new SW flicks.

I thought Solo was quite solid, but it was never gonna be a huge success.
 

ZattMurdock

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Don't think release date was the issue. No one was really amped for a Solo film, especially now that the Star Wars brand power has taken a bit of a dive with Disney. People care more about Captain America than any one in the new SW flicks.

I thought Solo was quite solid, but it was never gonna be a huge success.

I think it was an obvious release date issue. People do care more about Captain America and Marvel Studios than Star Wars, but December and Star Wars has become sort of a tradition after three consecutive years.

In December, Solo would make more than it did and eclipse everything else, unlike Poppins.
 

J_Viper

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I think it was an obvious release date issue. People do care more about Captain America and Marvel Studios than Star Wars, but December and Star Wars has become sort of a tradition after three consecutive years.

In December, Solo would make more than it did and eclipse everything else, unlike Poppins.
You're right though, it would have made a bit more around the holidays.

Plus that would have given them more time for the reshoots and whatnot. Not to say Solo looked rushed or low budget, I really dig the dark,, R1-esque aesthetic Howard went with.
 
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I don't really buy that Solo would have automatically eclipsed everything in December. Other than Deadpool 2, which was an R rated film, Solo's major competition was spaced several weeks before and after. People just didn't care.
 

ZattMurdock

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Why would international audiences suddenly become interested in the movie if it released a few months later?

Moviegoing people are creatures of habit. Releasing Solo one year after The Last Jedi just like that was released one year after Rogue One that was preceded by The Force Awakens one year before would give the audiences time between TLJ and Solo, also a lot of people I know didn't even knew that Solo WASN'T a December release.

Disney wasted the opportunity of owning Christmas betting on Poppins, so they failed with Solo and with Poppins as well.
 
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Dysun

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Seems like the movie everyone was asking to move dates (Aquaman) might actually be the one with the most mass appeal. Mary Poppins never struck me as a sure fire hit that would eclipse everything else
 

Seeya

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Solo would have done better but that goes for any movie really... well wait, last December was packed to high heaven, and Solo kind of stabilized later in its run. It might not have gotten that chance had it been outright murdered by everything else over Christmas.

If Spider-verse bounces well it can still hit 30m. Good opening in China all the same.
 

shintoki

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Solo wouldn't magically change if released in December. It still would be a bomb WW, but less so. I enjoyed the hell out of it, but it was the film everyone said wasn't needed, including fans. Poppins ain't going to get done dirty like that. Poppins, I think people's expectations were it was going to be close to a bill, but I felt its closer to something say Cinderella, where the fanfare for it isn't quite there compared to Lion King, BATB, Mulan, etc.

With Poppins, the issue is the appeal. She's not a Disney princess, so kids didn't grow up with her like others ala Cinderella/Snow White. I don't particularly see boys being interested in a flick about a nanny nor teens. And its one of the films people remember the songs more than the actual movie. It's completely anecdotal, but I see more excited for Mulan with my friends than this.

Its still going to do fine. Its not going to be a Christoper Robin or Solo. Artemis Fowl going be Disney next bomba
 
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a916

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That's what I meant from wanting this movie to have been released years earlier, the over saturation of Bayformers has kind of poisoned the well before Bumblebee could find an audience.


Haven't watched it yet, but I hope it does well enough. They poisoned the well, but they also made enough bank that I'm hoping they're willing to rebuild the trust and keep pumping out good movies and move away from the Bay garbage.

Release enough good movies that movie goers want and eventually they'll come back around.
 

cid85

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are the numbers so far for spider verse good/bad/ok? What kind of number are we looking at when all is said and done ? Also what is Sony expectations? Anyone know?
 

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Exact same here. Solo would BANK in December. Disney fucked up.
This, I'm definitely feeling the absence of a Star Wars movie this holiday. I was starting to enjoy it as a yearly tradition. When Solo came out it felt way too soon, and I may have even enjoyed the movie less because of that.

On a a somewhat unrelated note, they should totally do Christmas day screenings of Die Hard. There was a 30th anniversary screening in November but I missed it.
 

The Emperor

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Not surprised in the least about Mary Poppins. What did people expect?

The original was made in the 1960's. Not that that is a point on its own that is bad. Jungle Book is very old too...but the core story and presentation of a jungle it brings has way more mass market appeal.

It is about a nanny set in old Britain. Yawn. No-one lives like this anymore. Anyone who grew up with the movie won't care to see it in cinema. Kids today aren't at all intrigued by the concept of a magical nanny.

All in all I'm sure it might be a heartwarming fun watch, but I never felt it would be huge or breakout.

And the songs in the new film are meh.
 

Chaos Legion

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I don't want to derail, but as someone who hates Disney, I loved Solo and will never understand why it bombed. And I'm a lukewarm Star Wars fan.
 
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Not surprised in the least about Mary Poppins. What did people expect?

There were so many "Mary Poppins is going to make ALL THE MONEY" posts on this forum I convinced myself that I was missing something. I did find out that lots of young kids love musicals but for many of the reasons you stated, I had a hard time believing Mary Poppins was sure to be the mega box office success like damn near everybody who posted about it predicted

For whatever reasons, people expected this movie to do numbers like an Avengers movie and I still really don't know why
 

Kusagari

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There were so many "Mary Poppins is going to make ALL THE MONEY" posts on this forum I convinced myself that I was missing something. I did find out that lots of young kids love musicals but for many of the reasons you stated, I had a hard time believing Mary Poppins was sure to be the mega box office success like damn near everybody who posted about it predicted

For whatever reasons, people expected this movie to do numbers like an Avengers movie and I still really don't know why

It wasn't just here. Box office people everywhere seemed to act like the movie being a huge success with a billion on the table was a lock.

I always thought it was bizarre.
 
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