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Wkd Box Office - 12•12-16•18 - Spider-verse buries Mortal Engines domestically. Clint does fine. Aquaman rules the world with $262M overseas.
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Honestly I am real hype for Bumblebee.
Wow, the first good live action Transformers movie.
Helps that it was directed by the guy who directed the masterful Kubo and the Two Strings
Wow, the first good live action Transformers movie.
Helps that it was directed by the guy who directed the masterful Kubo and the Two Strings
It's a wonder what being able to see the action does for the series.
And getting rid of a lot of the... Humor of Bay
It's a really fun movie. I hope it won't get buried by Aquaman and Poppins.
Its been out for less than a week with the long Christmas vacation coming right up.
I was going to do a comparative example of how much Grinch bumped on the same day plus showing other genre movies similar bumps same days(along with the more important metric for indicating some sort of WOM effect, imo, what % those [calendar aligned] days takes translated against each films total run) but did not bother expanding it due to being on my phone. Keep in mind that these comparatives started OW where conditions were more uniform. Divergences in conditions (based on release date) are inevitable going from there. Still, that why I included Ferdinand and have mentioned it specifically a few times.
LEGO Movie and LEGO Batman are still valuable since we ultimately don't much care what movie came out when in judging its finishing BO. Having better bumps due to the season is just an observation along the same tract that had people saying '35m is a good start for a Christmas season animated release' it doesn't mean that observing the degree of its performance against another movie is invalid, it's just a more detailed metric to observe why releasing in Christmas can help legs. Looking favourable is great but what's actually being looked at are how those percentages translate to its BO run. That's also why it was arranged by dollar gross instead of %.
MP missing that mark could indicate that Spider-verse is diversifying it's demo though. Some sites seem to believe that SV will initially be hit hard this weekend but recover steam due to its exceptional word of mouth.
Edit: Gavin believes that a +30m China opening for Spider-verse is going to happen
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all I remember from the SLJ one was Bale's character being a racist POS and yelling "YOU WANT MY SHOES" before kicking someone in the face.
According to Hollywood Reporter, Mary Poppins' budget was $130m, so it'll probably be fine.
Also, a Deadline article from the other day put Bumblebee's budget at $137m, which sounds much more likely than $100m but is still on low side for the series.
Also, a Deadline article from the other day put Bumblebee's budget at $137m, which sounds much more likely than $100m but is still on low side for the series.
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Oh shit it is a sequel hell yeah.
Oh Manmademan you shit on Bedknobs and Broomsticks and I will catch you in the streets
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Presales for Poppins were pretty close to Aquaman leading into this week, and clearly that wasn't for opening day. So it will probably get some good bumps going into Christmas.
I'm thinking that Aquaman wins the month though. Seems to be good enough for a big year end blockbuster, and the buzz isn't there for Bumblebee.
I'm thinking that Aquaman wins the month though. Seems to be good enough for a big year end blockbuster, and the buzz isn't there for Bumblebee.
Bumblebee is going to live or die by its legs. Hopefully it will be able to hold reasonably into January and make some money there. If not...
I feel like Bumblebee is going to do just that. Still with a meager take overall though.
Yeah, I'm still not expecting much. I also have no idea what to expect internationally.
I feel like Bee's best chance is in ancillary markets. If they can get a strong showing on streaming, I expect some audience good will might be regained and could give a potential follow-up better buzz (especially if they move it back to summer, where Transformers movies seem to do much better).
I have a feeling the same thing will happen to Dunno next year (but not Lion King of course).
I was THIS CLOSE to doing it too. But apparently it wasn't released that year and I was too lazy to look it up.
I was actually thinking something along the same lines. Dumbo is a slightly harder call though, because it's animated- WELL animated. Watching that in the 1980s was just as impressive as watching it in the 40s or 50s or whatever because it is VERY expensive to make high quality animation like that.
Still, Dumbo IS a fairly old movie as disney movies go, and never quite got the traction of something like a snow white, sleeping beauty, etc.
Finally- Pinnochio is another one that's around the same age, and for some reason live action versions of that have failed to catch on several times.
FWIW it's doing strong presales in China. Not like Venom levels but good.
Problem is, Aquabro has some of that trademark Bay humor and some people are eating it up.
Did we not JUST talk about this exact phenomenon of Geriatric Studio Execs still thinking they know what the young kids will REALLY be into
It's been out for LESS THAN A WEEK
JFC
When is its Chinese release? I saw a Tencent logo at the beginning of the movie so that at least bodes well for its marketing in China.
Bee has a more modest budget compared to the Bay films correct?
Bee is really good, sadly think TLK really hurt the franchise and now the crowded Holiday season. The geek crowds have had nothing but negativity with Transformers in past years, and now they got two big comic book movies out at the same time. We got a good Transformers movie finally but it's going to get overlooked
The one advantage Hasbro has, is their investment in the toy lines which are international. Even if they dont get as big a cut overseas, they are still making bank on toys and merch.
Bee has the smalles budget of the Transformers films, which is crazy because it looks better than all of the others.
Bumblebee will buzz into Chinese theatres on January 4th!
Bumblebee has basically the same budget as Power Rangers. 102m versus 105m. For reverence Venom was 100m. It won't have a problem turning a profit.
102m is almost half of the average Transformers movie budget.
Transformers: 150m
Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen 200m
Transformers: Dark of the Moon 195m
Transformers: Age of Extinction 210m
Helps when you can see clearly the robots and not screen full of thousands of shards of metal and explosions everywhere
The more I think about how much I loved Spiderverse, the more it is hilarious that Lucasfilm thought they knew better.
"Get Ron Howard. Lord and Miller are fucking this thing up!"
"Get Ron Howard. Lord and Miller are fucking this thing up!"
It's December and its only been a week?
At the very least it should do $300-$400m WW which should be alright given the budget
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Deadline is saying $8-10M in Thursday previews for Aquaman, and 2-2.5M for Bumblebee
https://deadline.com/2018/12/aquama...night-previews-weekend-box-office-1202524462/
https://deadline.com/2018/12/aquama...night-previews-weekend-box-office-1202524462/
Since the article doesn't really say and I'm not nearly as skilled as y'all at this stuff: if these are at least somewhat accurate, where does that put them for the 3-day?
10m would match Venom. Even if it doesn't hit that, Christmas magic etc
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Just finished Aquaman Round Two.
If you get the chance, watch this in IMAX/biggest screen you can find.
If you get the chance, watch this in IMAX/biggest screen you can find.
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WB will possibly throw the $3M from those Amazon sneaks last week into the Friday number.
Awesome thanks.
That'd be a great result for Aquaman and right in line with expectations for BB.
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SPA has actually been having a good year
Peter Rabbit was budgeted at $50M. HT3 was $80M.
It'll turn into a great year if they manage to win their first Oscar
I don't think BumbleBee gets a sequel at the mid to lower end of your worldwide estimate.
Shame this isn't getting the reception it deserves, Bumblebee is a good time and is easily the best Transformers has gotten on the big screen since the animated film. If only this was the movie that came out in 2007 instead of Bay's trash, things would be different.
Hopefully Bumblebee doesn't get completely drowned out by Aquaman in the coming weeks, it deserves better than what it's getting.
SPA has actually been having a good year
Peter Rabbit was budgeted at $50M. HT3 was $80M.
Wow! I thought for some reason that the Hotel Transylvania sequels did less than the original. No wonder sony kept Genndy Tartakovsky on these films.
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