Being a mediocre movie that only has interesting visuals and nothing else like characters, story, etc probably doesn't help
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Wkd Box Office - 12•12-16•18 - Spider-verse buries Mortal Engines domestically. Clint does fine. Aquaman rules the world with $262M overseas.
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Much like the YA Paranormal Romance adaptations before that. I wonder what the next YA fad will be? YA Political Thrillers?
yep just bought my ticket for a now sold out showing next month
I know that, I meant early tracking to see how it's gonna open.
Anecdotally, but the kids at my screening were super invested in everything, even yelling encouragement at the characters. They might not get all the nuances of the interpersonal drama, but they felt the emotion.
Disney doesn't need to negotiate with Toei to tell that story. They can just make a Monkey King movie.
But monkey king doesn't have thousands of people in South America which a season finale in town squares or a float in the santa clause parade. No one knows who the hell monkey king is
Doing a Monkey King movie would be the equivalent of those "See the story that inspired the thing you care about" movies for like Robin Hood and Moby Dick that keep bombing.
I saw a Dolby Cinema screening tonight and it was an audiovisual feast. Love feeling the bass when it comes in heavy. That said people really really liked it even if it was maybe less than a quarter full. Kids were cheering during certain emotional parts near the end. Its the only movie where everyone stayed for the after credits scene as well. Like I never see that.
I think good word of mouth could carry it through the holidays even with the other heavy hitters. I'm certainly gonna tell my coworkers it was an absolute blast.
I think good word of mouth could carry it through the holidays even with the other heavy hitters. I'm certainly gonna tell my coworkers it was an absolute blast.
Pixar films don't have live action properties. It's not the garbage like Ferdinand is probably going to make more internationally. People have mentioned even here that some people default into thinking that an animated film with live action properties, is somehow automatically worse by virtue of being animated. People I mention the film to will tell me, "oh that cartoon version?" I clench my teeth and tell them it's not a cartoon lol.
Yes! Run. Steal. Kill if you must. You must see Spider-ham : into the spiham-verse in the best format you can.
It is a contender for best movie of the year.
Universal could have somewhat 'saved' Mortal Engines if they gave a shit.
I mean stuff like the wooden acting was too far gone but if they edited the movie better (especially the final act) and added a few scenes (especially for character development and expanding on major plot points) which I'm shocked didn't exist to begin with. With these the movie would have been pretty solid.
I said it before and I'll say it again, I don't even think the movie is bad in the state it got released in. It's awful in places for sure but the first two thirds are genuniely mostly decent. At the very least it's one of the best looking films ever made with great action scenes.
If Universal even bothered to delay it for a less packed period there's no doubt it would have done far better. Nowhere near enough to break even, but a lot better regardless.
I mean stuff like the wooden acting was too far gone but if they edited the movie better (especially the final act) and added a few scenes (especially for character development and expanding on major plot points) which I'm shocked didn't exist to begin with. With these the movie would have been pretty solid.
I said it before and I'll say it again, I don't even think the movie is bad in the state it got released in. It's awful in places for sure but the first two thirds are genuniely mostly decent. At the very least it's one of the best looking films ever made with great action scenes.
If Universal even bothered to delay it for a less packed period there's no doubt it would have done far better. Nowhere near enough to break even, but a lot better regardless.
I saw Mortal Engines in IMAX today. I quite enjoyed it but the theater was pretty dead. To be fair, it was in the afternoon and there was no one in concession lines at all and I live in a city. Might've been a slow movie weekend cause everyone is doing last minute weekend shopping (next weekend will be travel weekend).
If Disney or Pixar made it their next big animated movie they could get people to care.
Well it's been movies like The Fault in Our Stars, Love Simon, Everything Everything, The Hate U Give, To All The Boys I've Loved Before, etc...
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That wasn't the arguement though. Dragonball has all the elements that movie studios clamour over when it comes to properties. And Disney isn't exactly always a live action hit maker anyway. A wrinkle in Time, Poppins, Christopher Robin. And Pixar only does CGI, that would be an atrocious idea
Disney/Pixar could absolutely make a killing with a Monkey King film that was a Coco or Moana esque celebration of its culture.
CGI is fine. Monkey King would finally get some fur effects.
Are we talking about a Monkey king movie or a Dragonball movie? Because those are two completely different arguments
BH6 almost made $700mm worldwide. Animated comic properties can do well, as long as the Disney logo is at the beginning.
Happy for Ralph 2, wonder is there is going to be a sequel.
As for the Spiderman movie, I'm looking forward to it. It will be on cinemas on the 25th in my country (I think).
As for the Spiderman movie, I'm looking forward to it. It will be on cinemas on the 25th in my country (I think).
Finally a thread where i can talk about ME. So there is this kind of disappointment after watching ME (not the one with effect), but i felt that it wasnt as satisfying as Pacific Rim.. and then the revelation came i realized i got peter jackson confused with guillermo del torro 😑😑😑😑😑😑😑😑
My whole hype is literally a lie
My whole hype is literally a lie
To be fair, I feel like most people didn't know that was actually based on a comic.
Could work for both. In the surprising scenario of Toei surrendering to Disney a Dragon Ball movie would not be hand drawn. They're gonna get the top CGI talent to make it work.
It's more like an inspiration with the film seeing to approximate some of the names and concepts and do very different things with them. Like you said too, no one knew about the comic. It would be accurate to say that the film was inspired by the comic, but that's as far as I would go with it, personally.
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Miles isn't likely to be in the MCU given that Sony is using him. You're much more likely to see Spider-verse miles get translated to Live Action through Sony's stuff (that they consider as a part of MCU Spider-Man).
It's 'Sony cannon' but the GA wouldn't get that. The clip of it that plays after the Credits of Venom captions it as 'meanwhile, in another universe...'.
Fun fact: at one point, burnout Spider-Man was going to be the Sam Riami/Toby Maguire Spidey.
Maybe Sony should have had the Spider-verse Clip play like 15 seconds into Venoms credits haha.
And explicitly tied back to Venom during Spider-verse.
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Pascal said she'd like Spider-Man to stay in the MCU. But in a way that made it seem like it's not happening.
Sony should just go with 2099 at this point for live-action
Sony should just go with 2099 at this point for live-action
As much as I'd like 2099, they could just do adult Peter as Spidey, and with fresh Miles. Across the PS4 game and Spiderverse, it's something that'd be great as a movie.
ME was pretty shit. Very disappointed that we went with that rather than Spiderverse because my mate isn't a fan of comic book property.
Went to see Aquaman. Planning to go see spider verse after Xmas. Hoping by then it's still got plenty of showings and not put on the graveyard shift.
And then we got Artemis Fowl which is 17 years late to the Harry Potter party
A couple of take aways this weekend.
-- Yes, Spiderverse has great WOM and it has the Xmas corridor to really stretch it legs but that's dependent on it finding a larger audience but the question now becomes can Sony really connect with the family audiences because they didn't turn up this opening weekend. Personally I always thought this was going to be a hard sell as it's animation and general storyline seemed a little too 'esoteric' for a general audience and that might still prove true. I think a $35m opening for a property like Spider-Man (albeit an animation) is solid at best but nothing more.
Then again Sony did a great job of getting Venom out there and making it a huge hit proving just about everyone wrong so they might yet do it again.
-- From the announcement of the green light and the casting Mortal Engines just looked like a bomb in the making. But I don't think anyone thought it would be a bomb of this size. While MRC and Universal will be left holding the can a lot of this falls on Peter Jackson's shoulders. With no name to really sell the film (cast of unknowns, first time director) the marketing had to rely on Jackson's name coupled with big VFX to pull in punters and it blew up in their face.
I'd expect Jackson to hitch his wagon to a big studio IP (presumably WB but not necessarily DCU) after this if he wants to stay out of director jail and keep his 'stock' afloat.
-- Elderly white men love Clint. The Mule should have solid legs given that it will give granddads something to do when the rest of the family are off to watch Aquaman or Mary Poppins over Xmas.
-- Yes, Spiderverse has great WOM and it has the Xmas corridor to really stretch it legs but that's dependent on it finding a larger audience but the question now becomes can Sony really connect with the family audiences because they didn't turn up this opening weekend. Personally I always thought this was going to be a hard sell as it's animation and general storyline seemed a little too 'esoteric' for a general audience and that might still prove true. I think a $35m opening for a property like Spider-Man (albeit an animation) is solid at best but nothing more.
Then again Sony did a great job of getting Venom out there and making it a huge hit proving just about everyone wrong so they might yet do it again.
-- From the announcement of the green light and the casting Mortal Engines just looked like a bomb in the making. But I don't think anyone thought it would be a bomb of this size. While MRC and Universal will be left holding the can a lot of this falls on Peter Jackson's shoulders. With no name to really sell the film (cast of unknowns, first time director) the marketing had to rely on Jackson's name coupled with big VFX to pull in punters and it blew up in their face.
I'd expect Jackson to hitch his wagon to a big studio IP (presumably WB but not necessarily DCU) after this if he wants to stay out of director jail and keep his 'stock' afloat.
-- Elderly white men love Clint. The Mule should have solid legs given that it will give granddads something to do when the rest of the family are off to watch Aquaman or Mary Poppins over Xmas.
I was thinking hypothetically about a movie adaptation of Horizon: Zero Dawn, and that game's plot could basically be considered a YA post-apocalypse dystopia. Being a game adaptation, it's got it's own baggage, but it could counter the YA movie drag effect.
YA video game adaptations.
I mean cynically that means you don't expect Spider-verse to make much more than it has now.
Not even open in all major markets and already over 50 million.
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