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Wkd Box Office • 10/08-10/10/21 • No, Time to Disappoint: Bond Bows Domestically to $56M

BiggestGeekEver

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This is ResetEra's weekend box office thread. While the OP focuses on the "popular" weekend tallies, we typically discuss box office throughout the week as well when notable films are playing. New threads are posted each Sunday morning don't worry about it.

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https://deadline.com/2021/09/shang-chi-weekend-box-office-1234839150/

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‘No Time To Die’ Now Seeing $60M+ Over 4-Day Holiday — Monday Update

'No Time to Die' weekend box office hopes to click past $60M.
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When it comes to Bond and the box office, the world is enough, and the bigger exclamation as we first told you earlier this week was going to be in No Time to Die's global figure, comprised of its opening weekend domestic and second weekend abroad. We'll have that number soon, but we've heard there's great holds throughout Europe, and with even bigger riches ahead in China when the Cary Joji Fukunaga film lands there. The MGM/United Artist Releasing/Universal/Eon title is now expected to make $56M in its first three days in U.S. and Canada, after a steeper Saturday than expected against Friday/previews with $18.1M, -22%. Tracking and UAR always expected the movie to opening between $55M-$60M, and somehow the greater PR narrative on the film seemed to position the 25th Bond as thought it was going to play like a Marvel movie; that was never in the cards at the domestic B.O. Thirty-nine percent of the audience was between 18-34 versus Venom: Let There Be Carnage's first weekend grab of that crowd which was 64%. Also, we told you, this is the range that the last two Mission: Impossibles opened at, and those were in the late summer. Among all Bond movies, No Time to Die is the fourth biggest at the domestic B.O. after Skyfall ($88.3M), Spectre ($70.4M) and Quantum of Solace ($67.5M). Also something to note, only 88% of all 5,8K U.S. and Canadian theaters are open during the pandemic. While a majority of states have their theaters open, only Delaware can boast that 100% of their theatres are open.
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Domestic Weekend Box Office:
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Worldwide Updates:






Weekend Box Office Archive and Appendix:

 
Bigkrev

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I wonder if runtimes have anything to do with it. Bond is nearly 3 hours, Venom is a tight hour and a half. I was going to see 007 yesterday when I had some time between things, but at 3 hours I would not have been able to get through the whole thing before needing to leave

Granted, Spectre sucked, but that was over 6 years ago
 
Kewlmyc

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Damn, that's actually kind of low for Bond, or is that normal? Venom remains king.
 
Rainy

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Pretty much the floor for Bond expectations. Can be attributable to a few factors: older audiences maybe not returning as much to theaters, less of an appeal for younger viewers, longer run time, sequel to a 6 year old movie (tied for longest gap between Bond installments).

I thought it was fantastic when I saw it on Friday personally.

Luckily for Bond, it's doing amazing internationally:





Will pass Black Widow's international gross soon. Maybe Shang-Chi? Who knows.

China release in a few weeks.
 
shintoki

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Spectre poisoned the well there. I totally expected it to be quite a bit down and I think the gap hurt it.
 

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Venom 2 seems to be following The Amazing Spider-Man 2 pretty closely. Although 64.5% vs 61% respectively, and Venom 2's 10 days is at 141M vs ASM2 10 days' 146M.
 
Rainy

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Excellent globals for Bond. Domestic's in line with expectations, I thought?
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Initial tracking a few weeks ago was 55-60 but estimations increased a bit the last week or two from some outlets, partially due to some good presale info and everything with Venom. This is probably what we should have expected if Venom didn't blow up last week. Will be interesting to see Bond's legs in the States.
 
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Rainy said:
Initial tracking a few weeks ago was 55-60 but estimations increased a bit the last week or two from some outlets, partially due to some good presale info and everything with Venom. This is probably what we should have expected if Venom didn't blow up last week. Will be interesting to see Bond's legs in the States.
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Oh, gotcha. I think the last I checked was a few weeks ago, so that makes perfect sense.
 
IDreamOfHime

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Blaming the last movie, the run time, and other minor things feel like clutching at straws when the film is doing gangbusters outside to US.
I'd take a closer look at the US tastes, because there's definitely a difference in the word of mouth from US influencers, in that's it's negative.
 
denx

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Bond skews older, and older audiences usually don't rush out to the cinema to watch movies on opening weekend like the superhero crowd. So I expect Bond to have solid legs.
 
Rainy

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IDreamOfHime said:
Blaming the last movie, the run time, and other minor things feel like clutching at straws when the film is doing gangbusters outside to US.
I'd take a closer look at the US tastes, because there's definitely a difference in the word of mouth from US influencers, in that's it's negative.
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Yeah I wasn't trying to excuse it completely or anything. Weird thing is the audience review score is 88% on RT which is even higher than Skyfall and I've seen mostly positive reviews from you tubers etc? Interesting to see.
 
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That 2:45 runtime did it no favors. $300m ww is an impressive # though.

This is not a good sign for Dune though : /
 
luca

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Nice international haul for Bond, unfortunate to see it not doing better domestic.

Can a kind soul here help me get into our discord server again, or to hook me up with Bronson? I'm trying to get in touch with him but I can't find him on discord.
 
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denx

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That 2:45 runtime did it no favors. $300m ww is an impressive # though.

This is not a good sign for Dune though : /
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Dune was boned either way thanks to HBO Max.

Btw Dune is coming out next week here. Feels unreal that this movie is finally here.
 

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Wait, is that a good thing? Sorry, I see ASM2 comparison and I have to question considering that movie caused Sony to shift plans.
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It's an okay thing. And yeah, me too :v , but the comparison is more than anything because it's the sequel to a Sony licensed Marvel movie.

I think if the trend follows, its multiplier will be lower than Black Widow's, making Venom 2 domestic run fall short of 200M just by a couple of millions. It's behind Shang-Chi already, in the weeklies too.
 
Ithil

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Steep drop for Venom though given the high opening haul not surprising. It's already a big success as it is so it really doesn't matter that much.
Shang-Chi's legs are quite impressive.
 
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ContractHolder said:
Wait, is that a good thing? Sorry, I see ASM2 comparison and I have to question considering that movie caused Sony to shift plans.
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Aside from what's already been mentioned, ASM2 had at least double the budget, you can't really compare the two as equals. Venom 2 also outperformed the opening domestic weekend of the first film, and during a pandemic! Not sure what there is to be worried about.
 
PlatypusDude

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I do wonder if the older audiences being more hesitant to return to the theater kinda cuts against the whole, streaming is the main threat to theaters, and still not the fact people are still not comfortable going to the theater. Like I would expect it to be the opposite if streaming or people wanting to watch at home ( for theatrical exclusives) was the main issue.

Like only 33% of boomers are comfortable going and you would think they would be main demo for Bond. https://morningconsult.com/return-to-entertainment/

Just spitballing and may have no clue what I'm saying, but personal thought,
 
Gentlemen

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Do yall not read? It's right in line for expected, similar to mission impossible and 4th largest opening Bond.


Like I don't even know why the thread title reads that either.
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Projections should have been lower than they originally were but this is the second-lowest opening wkd of the craig bond era and it did still cost 250M (plus whatever marketing losses were eaten during the nearly 2 year delay).
 
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FTF said:
It's def good. Spider-Man is way bigger than Venom and the pandemic and all, etc.
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Grunge_Hamster said:
It's an okay thing. And yeah, me too :v , but the comparison is more than anything because it's the sequel to a Sony licensed Marvel movie.

I think if the trend follows, its multiplier will be lower than Black Widow's, making Venom 2 domestic run fall short of 200M just by a couple of millions. It's behind Shang-Chi already, in the weeklies too.
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joedick said:
Aside from what's already been mentioned, ASM2 had at least double the budget, you can't really compare the two as equals. Venom 2 also outperformed the opening domestic weekend of the first film, and during a pandemic! Not sure what there is to be worried about.
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Gotcha. Thanks for clarifying. Like I said, I see an ASM2 comparison and I had to wonder. But all of this makes sense.
 
BringBackSonics

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Biggish second weekend drop for Venom, but it's going to be a success either way. Great numbers.

Bond with middling domestic numbers buoyed by large international numbers.

shang chi just chugging along. Box office looking pretty healthy.
 

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shaneo632 said:
Anecdotally most older people I know are just waiting for Blu ray or streaming for Bond.
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My Boomer dad said he doesn't ever see himself going back to movie theaters after COVID.

After I told him how good NTTD was, he asked me if he needed to watch any of the older movies before going to see it.

NTTD rewards long-time fans who stuck with the franchise through Spectre, but asking my dad to watch CR, Skyfall, and Spectre is a tough ask.

I don't see Boomers coming out in droves to see this one tbh.
 

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Rainy said:
Will pass Black Widow's international gross soon. Maybe Shang-Chi? Who knows.

China release in a few weeks.
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It'll overthrow Shang-Chi globally because it's going to play in China while Shang-Chi did not.

On a similar note, was I wrong in thinking Shang-Chi is banned in China?
 
Rainy

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A clear problem with Bond, at least from early numbers is that the appeal to younger American demographics isn't really too strong.

Might be a minor impact but if the 007 game from IO is good, that might help a little.
 
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shintoki said:
Spectre poisoned the well there. I totally expected it to be quite a bit down and I think the gap hurt it.
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Spectre came out 6 years ago, I think the general audience has pretty well forgotten it by now. The movie also had an A- cinemascore when it came out so it's not like it was reviled the way it was online (a shocking proposition I know).

No Time to Die has reviewed really well, so it's not like poor WOM or rottentomatoes scores are keeping people away. IMO it's a combo of Bond's audience skewing older and older viewers are disproportionately staying away from theaters right now + maybe Bond just isn't THAT big a of a powerhouse when it comes to the US box office anyway? Casino and Quantum both did less than 170m (both barely better than Die Another Day); Spectre did 200m. Skyfall grossed 300m domestically but Skyfall as a whole way overperformed the rest of the series.
 
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Spectre came out 6 years ago, I think the general audience has pretty well forgotten it by now. The movie also had an A- cinemascore when it came out so it's not like it was reviled the way it was online (a shocking proposition I know).

No Time to Die has reviewed really well, so it's not like poor WOM or rottentomatoes scores are keeping people away. IMO it's a combo of Bond's audience skewing older and older viewers are disproportionately staying away from theaters right now + maybe Bond just isn't THAT big a of a powerhouse when it comes to the US box office anyway? Casino and Quantum both did less than 170m (both barely better than Die Another Day); Spectre did 200m. Skyfall grossed 300m domestically but Skyfall as a whole way overperformed the rest of the series.
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Was it the power of trailers and Adele? Skyfall had some crazy ones, Quantum wasn't a fantastic movie by any stretch though.

Decent number for Bond and international is chugging.
 

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I wonder if the rumors selling the rights for 300M to Apple or whoever was competing for them would have made them more money
 
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Johnny956 said:
I wonder if the rumors selling the rights for 300M to Apple or whoever was competing for them would have made them more money
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They already made over 300M WW and projections are around 700M depending on how China does.
But they would have saved on all the promotion money etc for the past year or so if they sold to Apple. Still think this release got them more money though.
 

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Rainy said:
They already made over 300M WW and projections are around 700M depending on how China does.
But they would have saved on all the promotion money etc for the past year or so if they sold to Apple. Still think this release got them more money though.
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Yea majority of that will be international box office which isn't too good revenue sharing wise for the studio. In the end it'll be close which would be more beneficial to the studio
 
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