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Wireless headset for next-gen consoles
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G PRO X Wireless is fucking incredible headset. I'm using it with PS5 and works great with Tempest 3D. Especially on multiplayer.
I highly recommend this badass if you are looking something for games and movies.
I'm so so on the sound signature. Mids are a tad recessed and there's definitely a bit of a low bass dropoff, but otherwise I really like them. Soundstage is noticeably better than the Penrose. The Penrose were dreadful with Tempest by comparison.
Maybe it has to do with how planars work, but it felt like different frequencies were coming from different areas within the driver. Low end frequencies sounded like they were coming from behind me, and mids-highs were more towards the front. It was a bit strange, but really satisfying for certain types of music.
If the concern is just not having to swap the dongle between consoles, you can accomplish this with a headset that supports both Xbox Wireless + Bluetooth.
The Razer Kaira Pro** is actually well suited to this, as it has specific buttons to swap between Xbox Wireless and Bluetooth audio. You would need to buy a USB BT dongle for the PS though, as it doesn't come with one.
**only the Pro has both XB Wireless + BT
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Regarding the penrose x, will i need to disconnect the dongle between consoles (xboxx/ps5)or do they both use different connection methods.
Also, is the penrose mobius better than the penrose, I'm sitting like a metre from my consoles so being wired is not an issue.
Lastly, are the penrose worth 2x the price of the 7x in terms of sound quality being much better(i get you can't say something has 2x better sound quality without looking at more technical details)? Thinking of waiting until the penrose is on sale, but current prices are £140~ for arctis 7x and £300 for the penrose.
Also, is the penrose mobius better than the penrose, I'm sitting like a metre from my consoles so being wired is not an issue.
Lastly, are the penrose worth 2x the price of the 7x in terms of sound quality being much better(i get you can't say something has 2x better sound quality without looking at more technical details)? Thinking of waiting until the penrose is on sale, but current prices are £140~ for arctis 7x and £300 for the penrose.
Yes you need to move the dongle. There is a switch on the dongle as well, Xbox/PC. Use PC for everything but Xbox.
The only person who can answer that is you.
Have you been happy with the sound quality of previous gaming headsets you've owned, or did you wish they sounded better? Is sound quality ever something you think about? How much do you intend to use them? etc. etc.
Do you have an ARC that plugs into your console? If not, you will need to plug the mobius into the controller, which provides compressed audio.
In terms of price...it's entirely subjective. I don't know how much you make, how much your willing to pay or how much audio quality factors into your headset decision.
I do not have an arc so guess mobius is out of the question.
Not a huge amount I'm early in my career but I have decent savings and don't want to skimp on my gaming setup since I upgraded to a good TV this year. but I also don't want to pay for a marginal upgrade. The penrose is the most I'd pay for a headset and its not an amount I'd like toeasily pay due to frugality rather than inability to pay. But again, its not that I mind paying or that it's going to be a major hit to my finances.
Yeah I get that, should've been clearer I was basically asking if they're apples & oranges or just bad apple vs good apple (if that makes sense), essentially if they're so much different that an average person will get major utility from using them.
I got a Samsung q900t soundbar(which I'm going to sell once I get a pair of headphones I'm happy with) with my TV but since I'm now sitting a metre (rather than the 2-3 metres I was previously) it just doesn't sound amazing any more. I'm currently using the pulse 3d and its missing something on top of the bass for me, but the sound quality is good imo. I don't think about sound quality, but stuff like the bass sound stage and the sound seperation in busydbusy scenes. I game 2 hours 5/7 days a week, about a 70/30 singld/multiplayer split. But I don't care about the multiplayer features or mic quality.
So treble on the arctis 7/7p/7x is really sharp/bright sounding on cod even on the neutral profile. Gunshots and reload in cod make my cringe.
Does that mean I should lower the higher frequencies on the eq. The highest two I'm assuming or just the highest? Anyone got some good custom was they tried out?
I think audio should work fine on sex but chat won't without the Xbox specific base station.
Does that mean I should lower the higher frequencies on the eq. The highest two I'm assuming or just the highest? Anyone got some good custom was they tried out?
I think audio should work fine on sex but chat won't without the Xbox specific base station.
I keep hearing my own voice (sidetone) whenever I use my Arctis 9 on PS5 unless I mute the mic.
Is there a way to fix this? Any help would be appreciated.
Is there a way to fix this? Any help would be appreciated.
If there is no side tone volume on the headset usually you can adjust it in the steel series engine software?
Thanks, I'll try adjusting it from the PC then.
I can adjust the sidetone volume on the headset, but it lowers the general volume too.
I was hoping the cups on 7x would be more comfy. I think the lack of foam on the driver, and a convex driver is weird. My a40 have foam on the driver and felt a touch nicer.
No matter which settings I used the sound was just awful and sharp. Really not worth the money so had to return it
Did you apply the firmware update, and turn off sidetone? Those two things are crucial with the Penrose IMHO.
thanks for the tips. I hadn't been using mine (hadn't been playing my console) and just did these things.
Got my Penrose and tested them with music and games. My short review is based on my experience with the LucidSound LS50X, which are a pair of $250 headphones, which were the best sounding gaming headphones I've used before (Better than Astro A50, HyperX and any Sony headset in terms of audio quality).
The Penrose is flat out better than the LS50X. They sound crisper and cleaner and various instruments within songs definitely stand out. To put it bluntly, these are the best sounding headphones I've ever used.
Now to address some of the most common issues people had:
1) Comfort: These are comfortable to me and the clamping force is fine. I am also coming from the LS50X which have a tight force and are actually heavier than these so obviously my opinion is jaded.
2) Range: I can walk to the bathroom and have my device across my entire 660 sqft apt and have zero drops. So it works perfectly me.
3) Sidetone + Hiss: No issue here with update
4) Bluetooth and Dongle Signal: No clicking, popping or disconnects. Funny enough, I recently moved to a new apt and in my old apt, I was having a ton of clicking and popping issues with my LS50x and all of those problems are gone with the LS50x in my new apt. So I'm assuming I was in a very noisy environment and that could be a problem for more sensitive hardware.
Overall...I mean...these shits are the real deal. Experiences will obviously vary based on your situation but I would 100% recommend giving these a shot.
Edit: Mic quality: Friends said I sound better than the LS50 plugged into the controller and sound as good as the platinum...so I guess mediocre?!
The Penrose is flat out better than the LS50X. They sound crisper and cleaner and various instruments within songs definitely stand out. To put it bluntly, these are the best sounding headphones I've ever used.
Now to address some of the most common issues people had:
1) Comfort: These are comfortable to me and the clamping force is fine. I am also coming from the LS50X which have a tight force and are actually heavier than these so obviously my opinion is jaded.
2) Range: I can walk to the bathroom and have my device across my entire 660 sqft apt and have zero drops. So it works perfectly me.
3) Sidetone + Hiss: No issue here with update
4) Bluetooth and Dongle Signal: No clicking, popping or disconnects. Funny enough, I recently moved to a new apt and in my old apt, I was having a ton of clicking and popping issues with my LS50x and all of those problems are gone with the LS50x in my new apt. So I'm assuming I was in a very noisy environment and that could be a problem for more sensitive hardware.
Overall...I mean...these shits are the real deal. Experiences will obviously vary based on your situation but I would 100% recommend giving these a shot.
Edit: Mic quality: Friends said I sound better than the LS50 plugged into the controller and sound as good as the platinum...so I guess mediocre?!
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Yeah the stock pads hurt my ears. I replaced them with some velour pads that I had purchased for my m50s and it is much more comfortable. Not sure how I feel about them yet. I kind of wanted the penrose x but got a good deal on the 7x I guess. I wish chat mix worked on pc...
I bought some Dekoni Nuggets and that fixed the comfort issue with the headstrap for me.
I did turn side tone off. (Although tbh I haven't even tested the mic.Don't play with people online a lot. )
I checked for FW updates but it was already on the newest out of the box. (0.15 I think?)
What does turning off sidetone do? Wouldn't you want that for your mic feedback?
As for the firmware update, when connecting the Penrose to a PC, an updated wasn't prompted. Is there a manual update to push it through?
There is an app for PC you download, it has a firmware tab where you can check/update the firmware. Might be able to do it with the android app too, but I'm not sure since I don't have an Android device myself.
I have been eyeing these, but didn't pull the trigger yet. A little reluctant to stick something semi-permenantly to brand new $300 headphones lol. Will see how it shakes out after a couple of months of use.
It's just double-sided tape stuck to plastic. I'm sure it would not be difficult to get them off if you wanted to.
Sorry if it's been mentioned, but anyone know the best headsets for PS5 that have a dial/knob to control/balance voice chat volume and game volume directly from the headset? I had the Skullcandy PLYR1's for ps4 and they were amazing for that, but unfortunately that feature only worked through optical cable, and it doesn't work through USB.
If you mean independently control the chat volume and the game volume, I don't think they exist unfortunately. The new Sony pulse 3d can control the game/voice balance slider directly from the headset and apparently it's the only headset that can do it right now. All others I believe need to adjust the balance slider from the ps5 UI.
Yessir. Penrose is winning. Tested them this morning with the updates and I have no reservations when switching off my $4,000 headphones for these for gaming or even when listening to music. In my experience, any headphone that can shine in music will be great for everything else. Planar magnetic stays winning, particularly when it comes to bass response and depth.
For those who can swing the price, give Penrose a good, hard look. Worst case, you just return them. Best case, you find a gaming headset that can double as the best pair of headphones for music you've ever owned.
Looking for a very good wireless headset for PS5 and PC (and hopefully Xbox consoles, too, for when I get a Series X in a year or two).
-Sub-$200
-Very good sound quality with a slight emphasis on deep clean bass (but not overbearing the other frequencies)
-Solid mic that can get out of the way when I'm not using it (which is 95% of the time)
-VERY important: relatively low clamping force. I have a big head and hate when headphones feel like they're trying to pop my head open with their tightness
-As comfortable as possible with nice-quality earcup material
Thanks to anyone who may have a good suggestion!
-Sub-$200
-Very good sound quality with a slight emphasis on deep clean bass (but not overbearing the other frequencies)
-Solid mic that can get out of the way when I'm not using it (which is 95% of the time)
-VERY important: relatively low clamping force. I have a big head and hate when headphones feel like they're trying to pop my head open with their tightness
-As comfortable as possible with nice-quality earcup material
Thanks to anyone who may have a good suggestion!
Goddamnit. This post just convinced me to order the penrose
Jeez, now this post is making me think about getting Penrose when I already have 7x! I really, really don't need more headphones... Or do I? :)
Sidetone takes audio from the mic and feeds it back through the headset. It's messing with the audio, so if you want pristine sound quality you don't want random shit from the mic intruding. The Penrose has an amazingly low sound floor, and turning on sidetone is just pissing that away IMHO.
Frankly I don't need sidetone when using the mic, I've been speaking long enough that I have a pretty good handle on how to do it now lol. Maybe it helps if you're worried about speaking too loudly and disturbing others, but I tend to think that at that point you should probably be even more considerate, and just mute your mic :)
Gotcha, fair points actually. I think I'll do that too. Never needed that feedback before this mic, no reason to start now lol.
Worst thing that happens is you don't like em, right? Free returns.
If you order directly from Audeze, you have to pay for your own return shipping fwiw.
I got it from crutchfield since it was in stock w/ 2 day shipping and the returns cost $10 but whatever I"ll try it out 👀
oic. my mistake.
hopefully you like them. I've been wearing mine for the last 7 hours. I remain well pleased.
I got the Penrose X this week and love them. So convenient and they sound amazing. I also ordered a LCD-GX figuring I'd send the Penrose back but I am keeping the Penrose. Honestly best gaming headphone out there. Something about those planar magnetic drivers
Alright between you two and endlessflood, I've decided I'm going with the Penrose. One question that's not a dealbreaker by any means is have any of you used them to watch movies/tv shows? If so how do they perform with that type of content?
Not really. Self described "audiophiles" will tell you these are all terrible. Everyone else will just recommend what they bought.
imo you can't go wrong with the 7x/7p from Arctis, or the Penrose, as described above. The sony golds and pulse 3d seem to have less promotors on Era relative to when the golds launched last gen.
As the last poster said basically the Arctic 7X for your price are great. The Penrose are the next step up. A lot of audiophiles won't really like any of these, but the general user will be happy.
My middle child has the 7X she got for Xmas, and she loves them.
Regarding the Audeze Penrose, I mentioned it a few pages ago, but definitely update the firmware for mic improvement (it is a very noticeable upgrade).
I recommend trying out some of the recommendations for the EQ settings on Reddit or the official Audeze release. I think they sound much better with just a little tweaking in the application and you can always just default if you don't find a setting you like. You can also change the EQ settings on the fly while listening to music or playing, as long as they're plugged into your PC, so it's a very easy way to test them out.
I use 0 (-1) (-1) (-3) (-3) (-3) (-2) (-1) 0 0
Audeze also officially released some of their own presets last month: https://www.audeze.com/pages/audeze-hq-presets
I recommend trying out some of the recommendations for the EQ settings on Reddit or the official Audeze release. I think they sound much better with just a little tweaking in the application and you can always just default if you don't find a setting you like. You can also change the EQ settings on the fly while listening to music or playing, as long as they're plugged into your PC, so it's a very easy way to test them out.
I use 0 (-1) (-1) (-3) (-3) (-3) (-2) (-1) 0 0
Audeze also officially released some of their own presets last month: https://www.audeze.com/pages/audeze-hq-presets
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Just watched the opening scenes of Blade Runner 2049, Mad Max: Fury Road, the lobby scene of The Matrix, and the docking sequence for Dr. Mann in Interstellar. I also threw in some Star Trek: Discovery. In a word, the sound is Outstanding.
As I've mentioned before: what I've found with headphones is that if they perform well in music, they will do everything else well. Penrose w/ the latest updates are no exception. They are excellent in music, as most Audeze headphones are. They are equally impressive in movies. No, they aren't as good as my LCD-4's. But they are a close enough approximation that I don't mind that I'm not wearing my LCD-4's and haven't worn them all day. I'm around 10 hours straight in these Penrose's, playing music, gaming, and watching some Netflix. Also done some calls via Google Voice. 80%-100% volume. Still at 30% battery. It's a helluva kit, IMO.
What's really nice about the Penrose is that you can adjust the EQ to maximize the sound to your tastes, and it stores it onboard for whatever console, phone or PC you hook it up to after will run with your EQ'd settings.
This is what I like about the Penrose: thanks to the EQ you can do anything you want with the sound. My settings are almost the complete opposite, but most of my music is best when rich. R&B, Hop-Hop, Jazz, movies. I use 4 - 3 - 3 - 2 - 2 - 0 - (-1) - (-1) - (-1) and I'm happier than a pig in slop.
I'll put your preset on my Preset 2 and give it a try.
Yeah I stepped up from the "new" golds to the 7P (since the 7X is inexplicably absent from my country), and am VERY happy. Very comfortable and far better sound quality than the golds.